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Adstar

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But Adam and Eve didn't know goodness prior to the fall.
They knew what God had told them... God told them not to take the knowledge of good and evil or they would die..
They knew what satan told them.. He told them once they took the knowledge of good and evil they would be Gods..

They chose to believe satan.. and believe God was lying to them..

They had enough knowledge to make a choice.. They did not walk into it blindly..
 

Sturuj

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one afternoon in my office as i was doing my work and suddenly i heard a very clear male voice like speaking next to me saying "the human heart is the half of the healing"...

i keep on pondering on what it really meant.

the human heart is such a mystery...

you never really know all the reason why somebody just suddenly doesnt believe in Jesus...

theres no point to trying to fight people,

since the human heart is a mystery, i would like to talk to God regarding this in mystery.

you are in my list...
 
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#46
Maybe... But i wonder what would be moving you to come onto CC and engage in discussions and debates about God... If you where truly barred by God from His mercy i doubt you would have any motivation to spend your time actively engaging with Christians online like this.. Maybe Gods Holy Spirit is moving you, motivating you to seek Him anew ?
Yes, yes! It's true. Oh you know me too well. No, well it's theory.
 
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I accepted Jesus sacrifice along time ago, but now I've rejected it I can't re-accept it. Otherwise I'd be nailing Jesus up on the cross again.
We then have a problem. IF you really are reprobate as you say, & can't come back, the Holy Spirit by no means lead you here.

Since you're here, we hope you are wrong about yourself. If you're not wrong ..... then you're a troll trying to get some of our good members arguing with each other.

I sure hope you're wrong.:)
 

JesusLives

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#53
Ok lets break this down.

Jesus has to come to die for the sins of humankind, because of a bad choice two people made thousand's of years ago that nor you or I had any part in. Which condemned all humans to a place that God had to create to punish the very thing he's saving us from.
Breaking it down for you requires another question for you.

Do you want to build a relationship with God and live with Him forever in heaven?
 

JesusLives

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#54
But Adam and Eve didn't know goodness prior to the fall.
They lived in perfection and didn't know evil and sin until the fall. All they knew until that time was goodness.
 

Magenta

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#55
Ok lets break this down.

Jesus has to come to die for the sins of humankind, because of a bad choice two people made thousand's of years ago that nor you or I had any part in. Which condemned all humans to a place that God had to create to punish the very thing he's saving us from.
You say that as if you never did anything wrong in your life. And, even if you never
had done anything wrong, nor also never even once did a thing to harm another
living soul, why would you be worthy of having God give you MORE life if you
refuse to acknowledge Him as the One Who has given you life in the first place?
 
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Breaking it down for you requires another question for you.

Do you want to build a relationship with God and live with Him forever in heaven?
Sure, why not. But just for you, because I like you.
 
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#58
You say that as if you never did anything wrong in your life. And, even if you never
had done anything wrong, nor also never even once did a thing to harm another
living soul, why would you be worthy of having God give you MORE life if you
refuse to acknowledge Him as the One Who has given you life in the first place?
What about when I didn't refuse to acknowledge him, huh? And I still didn't get any answers from him, because HE'S NOT REAL ok. It didn't work out when I believed with my whole heart, why? Maybe because HE'S NOT REAL.
 

Dan58

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#59
That's a conclusion you can't prove... And all the answers are in his word, you just need to look for them.

Simply stated, Jesus is the Tree of Life, those who refuse to partake won't live long. He demonstrated his love on Calvary, but He won't force anyone to accept it.
 
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That's a conclusion you can't prove... And all the answers are in his word, you just need to look for them.

Simply stated, Jesus is the Tree of Life, those who refuse to partake won't live long. He demonstrated his love on Calvary, but He won't force anyone to accept it.
I'm leaving, Good bye.