But he loves you!
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Hell is going to be the complete and total absence of God and everything else He has given to those that won't accept His love. The ONLY way to keep you out of hell is for Him to pay the debt owed (wages of sin is eternal death) by sending His ONLY Son to die for YOU. THAT, is true love! He won't force you to accept His love though.
1Jo 4:10 Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins.
God loves us but sin has corrupted us. God made a way to atone for our sin and restore us to Him. Gods holiness requires that His perfect judgment be satisfied. The blood of Christ makes the atonement and His love makes it efficacious for us.
Like the malefactor on the cross next to Christ you only seek to manipulate you do not seek mercy. You cannot make God do it your way. Lucifer tempted Christ with the word of God and failed.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
God loves us but sin has corrupted us. God made a way to atone for our sin and restore us to Him. Gods holiness requires that His perfect judgment be satisfied. The blood of Christ makes the atonement and His love makes it efficacious for us.
Like the malefactor on the cross next to Christ you only seek to manipulate you do not seek mercy. You cannot make God do it your way. Lucifer tempted Christ with the word of God and failed.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
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Well imagine a court room full of criminals, they are all sentenced then someone stands
up and says I will serve your sentence if you will let me, just say the word and accept
the gift I want to give you.
Some people gladly accept the free gift and are set free, but others don't believe it, they
think there is a catch to it, they think the giver is making it up, or maybe they don't
believe the giver even exists. So they shake their heads and trudge down to the prison cells.
You can't force people to accept a gift.
Crimes have been committed against God, the price has been paid, the question is are you
willing to accept that free gift, if not then you will have to serve out the sentence.
up and says I will serve your sentence if you will let me, just say the word and accept
the gift I want to give you.
Some people gladly accept the free gift and are set free, but others don't believe it, they
think there is a catch to it, they think the giver is making it up, or maybe they don't
believe the giver even exists. So they shake their heads and trudge down to the prison cells.
You can't force people to accept a gift.
Crimes have been committed against God, the price has been paid, the question is are you
willing to accept that free gift, if not then you will have to serve out the sentence.
You continually put forth the idea that relying on God is a refusal to take personal responsibility, but the opposite is true, actually. Relying on God does not mean He cleans up after us as if there is nothing more for us to do. Where did you get such an idea? In relying on God, we accept His love for us, and that love in turn relieves us of having to worry about or fear for our future. It does not relieve us of the responsibility of taking steps to make amends for the wrongs we may have done in the past, or continue to make in the present.
Suffering as a result of rejecting God's love is to throw yourself on the mercy of others. Whom do you trust to place the whole of your life in their hands? Do you think anyone wants such a responsibility as that? Surely any who would be foolish enough to take on such an endeavor would fail.
Suffering as a result of rejecting God's love is to throw yourself on the mercy of others. Whom do you trust to place the whole of your life in their hands? Do you think anyone wants such a responsibility as that? Surely any who would be foolish enough to take on such an endeavor would fail.
Yep. A limited time offer that expires when you physically die!
So act now while supplies last! Cause you DON'T KNOW when your last breath happens.
14 For we have become partakers of Christ if we hold the beginning of our confidence steadfast to the end, 15 while it is said:
“Today, if you will hear His voice,
Do not harden your hearts as in the rebellion.”
So act now while supplies last! Cause you DON'T KNOW when your last breath happens.
14 For we have become partakers of Christ if we hold the beginning of our confidence steadfast to the end, 15 while it is said:
“Today, if you will hear His voice,
Do not harden your hearts as in the rebellion.”
"Hell"
Is simply the grave or death. Not eternal punishment....
[h=4]Brown-Driver-Briggs (Old Testament Hebrew-English Lexicon)[/h] From hades or the world of the dead (as if a subterranian retreat), including its accessories and inmates:—grave, hell, pit.
Ecc. 9:5 "For the living know that they shall die: but THE DEAD KNOW NOT ANY THING, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten."
Is simply the grave or death. Not eternal punishment....
[h=4]Brown-Driver-Briggs (Old Testament Hebrew-English Lexicon)[/h] From hades or the world of the dead (as if a subterranian retreat), including its accessories and inmates:—grave, hell, pit.
Ecc. 9:5 "For the living know that they shall die: but THE DEAD KNOW NOT ANY THING, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten."
paradox let me ask you this lets say your question is true and that love would not send people to hell. Now let me ask you this are you a parent of a child? Or do you at least know how parenting works? If one child acts up all the time and odes whatever they want while another acts good and listens to their mom and dad yet they both receive the same reward what you have then is a child that lives as he pleases with no consequences while another being an obedient and kind hearted child shares the same fate as the other.
Hell is not simply a place God tosses people who refuse him, I mean if say rapists and murderers did as they pleased with no regard to their own actions or the lives they destroyed yet in the end there is no consequences for the way they lived their lives then where is the justice? You see a good parent allows their children the room to make their own mistakes because if you cage and force your child to do what you want you then that child will never have learned anything they are like a caged bird who never had the freedom to learn to fly on their own two wings.
God knew this and so even though the thought of having to send his children to hell hurts him far more than you or I will ever begin to understand he gives us the freedom to spread our own wings and fly. However it is not his fault if a bird starts slamming other new flyers learning to fly with their own two wings and ends up making himself fall to the ground and breaking his wings due to his aggressive way of flying
Hell is not simply a place God tosses people who refuse him, I mean if say rapists and murderers did as they pleased with no regard to their own actions or the lives they destroyed yet in the end there is no consequences for the way they lived their lives then where is the justice? You see a good parent allows their children the room to make their own mistakes because if you cage and force your child to do what you want you then that child will never have learned anything they are like a caged bird who never had the freedom to learn to fly on their own two wings.
God knew this and so even though the thought of having to send his children to hell hurts him far more than you or I will ever begin to understand he gives us the freedom to spread our own wings and fly. However it is not his fault if a bird starts slamming other new flyers learning to fly with their own two wings and ends up making himself fall to the ground and breaking his wings due to his aggressive way of flying
