All 7 trumpets have been blown, big discovery! Thoughts?

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I think I've discovered something huge about the 7 trumpets of Reverlation. What if I told you that I believe all 7 trumpets have ALREADY sounded?

What John wrote to describe the 5th Trumpet is a jawdropping match compared to what's written in Joel 2 describing the day of the Lord during the OT.

Joel 2:1-10, he describes the same locusts John saw in Revelation 9:1-12, the first woe... ready for the kicker?

Joel 2:2 says the locusts are "strong; there hath not been ever the like, *neither shall be any more after it, even to the years of many generations.*"
That had to to be the 5th trumpet then, no?

There's another kicker.. Shortly after, Joel 2:28 says
"28*And it shall come to pass *afterward*, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:
29*And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit."

Jesus coming earth WAS the earths sign of the 7th Trumpet:
"And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne." -Revelation 12:5

What are your thoughts my dear brother?
 
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If the Vials,trumpets ect. are blown at all it's because they are being poured out on those who received the mark of the beast or worshipped his image so before the trumpets,vials ect to start the beast and his mark have to come. It's a bit like saying which is first the chicken or the egg but in this case its which comes first the wrath of god on those who have the mark or the mark? We hear over and over where people say "the stuff we see going on today are the things in Revelation but if you ask them what the mark of the beast is and who is the beast they don’t know.
 
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Well.....I don't think so....the 6th seal results in humanity hiding in the dens, rocks and caves of the earth trying to hide from the face of Him that sits on the throne.....that happens before the Trumps.....the 7th seal initiates the 1st trump.........

The word dens = something prepared...just like the rich, wealthy and governments of the world are doing right now-->as in building bunkers underground..........
 

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Jesus coming earth WAS the earths sign of the 7th Trumpet:
"And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne." -Revelation 12:5

What are your thoughts my dear brother?
Your completely off base.. Revelation is future, the 7th trump reveals the 2nd coming, so there's no "WAS" about it, because it hasn't happened, the 6th and 7th trumps haven't blown yet. "Who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron" is future context, Christ didn't rule anything in his first coming. That verse is referencing Matthew 24:30, Mark 13:26, and Luke 21:27.
 

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I find this jaw dropping but not for the reason Spiritled gives!
 

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At some point (if) we believe that the beast is here now and God is pouring out the plagues on them for worshipping the beast and buying and selling with it's money the thought should cross our minds to open our wallets and purses and examine just how we do buy and sell.

So at current every nation,every person uses a debit card to buy and sell. Now our pin number is a number that only the one who calculated it has wisdom of. I guess it is in our foreheads because we memorize it. And i guess as soon as we swipe the card at the store we enter the pin number with our right hands. But who would go out on the limb and say for sure it is the mark?
 
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Are you saying that the beast/ marrk of the beast comes before the trumpets? That's not what God's Word says..

- First the Lamb opens the 7 seals one at a time. (Revelation 6-8:1)
-Then the 7 Angels blow their trumpets one at a time. (Revelation 8:7-11:15)
-Then Jesus is brought forth on Earth and is caught up to God and to His throne. (Revelation 12:6)
-The Beast isnt revealed until Revelation 13, after all that stuff happened^^
 
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So are you saying that the events of Revelation (such as the locust plague) already happened before the book of Revelation was given?

The locust plague of JOEL is prophetic about the event that will happen in revelation with the LOCUST Plague that comes out of the smoking pit..
 

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Hi spiritled welcome to cc:) Something you have to understand about bible prophecy is that often times like history it repeats itself. Yes if you study and look back at the bible in the ot then yes it can easily be seen that all this has happened however it is merely a foreshadow of what is to come. Often times in the web of bible prophecy specific prophecies happen several times before they truly happen and are completed.

I am actually impressed you noticed this happening in the ot not many have seen or understood that but you have to have the knowledge of how prophecy works as well and one main thing is that prophecy foreshadows often
 

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Are you saying that the beast/ marrk of the beast comes before the trumpets? That's not what God's Word says..

- First the Lamb opens the 7 seals one at a time. (Revelation 6-8:1)
-Then the 7 Angels blow their trumpets one at a time. (Revelation 8:7-11:15)
-Then Jesus is brought forth on Earth and is caught up to God and to His throne. (Revelation 12:6)
-The Beast isnt revealed until Revelation 13, after all that stuff happened^^

Yes!,Rev.14:9-10 , Rev.16:1-2 ,Rev. ect. it's only poured out on those who have the mark
 

iamsoandso

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Look close at the Locust that come up out of the pit,look at what they do and who they do it to. Notice that they cannot kill and the ones with the mark of God are "off limits" then look at Joel 2;25 e.g. "my great army that I sent among you" and then notice that the years that the locust have eaten are restored Joel 2:25...
 

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I don't think that any of the trumpets have been blown.
 

Blain

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I don't think that any of the trumpets have been blown.
True the trumpets have not been blown however the things they bring have happened before just not nearly on the scale that is coming
 
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Your completely off base.. Revelation is future, the 7th trump reveals the 2nd coming, so there's no "WAS" about it, because it hasn't happened, the 6th and 7th trumps haven't blown yet. "Who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron" is future context, Christ didn't rule anything in his first coming. That verse is referencing Matthew 24:30, Mark 13:26, and Luke 21:27.
I don't think I'm off base at all, the 7th trump sounds in Revelation 11:15. After that in Revelation 12:5 God's Word says "And she(Israel) brought forth a man child (Jesus), who was to rule all mnations with a rod of iron; and her child (Jesus) was caught up to God, and to His throne."

That can't be his 2nd coming, no way. Why, you ask? Read further on to Revelation 12:17 which says "And the dragon (Satan ) was very angry with the woman (Israel-offspring)and went to make war with the remnant of her seed (us), which obey the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ." See??? There's no way the 7th Trumpet is the 2nd coming.
 
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Blow it away hosay[video=youtube;DJwfsYxDgJ4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJwfsYxDgJ4[/video]
 
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And now to flex those chuckle mussles in my kingdom my God is called pingu chuckle chuckle.:rolleyes:lols
 
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Look close at the Locust that come up out of the pit,look at what they do and who they do it to. Notice that they cannot kill and the ones with the mark of God are "off limits" then look at Joel 2;25 e.g. "my great army that I sent among you" and then notice that the years that the locust have eaten are restored Joel 2:25...
The locusts in Joel 2:25 are NOT the locusts from the pit. If you read Revelation 9:4 you'd know they cant be; "it was commanded to the locusts that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree", & 9:11 also shows your interpretation to be incorrect; "These locusts had a king over them which is the angel of the bottomless pit, Apollyon the Destroyer. (Its not the Lords army!)

The locusts from Joel 2:25 are the natural little ones we see today that the Lord sent to the land of Judah to devastate their lands in Joel 1:4 that also came with palmerworms, cankerworms,, and caterpillars that God sent them; for God's Judgemen fell upon them due to their sin.

The locusts John wrote of in Revelation rant little bugs like the locusts the Lord sent! Read Revelation 9:7-9 they had faces of men and sat upon horses, Joel described these same creatures in Joel 1-4. They are the same creatures as Revelation and Joel says that was the only time they'd ever be on the earth, humans would never see them again in verse 2.
 

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I think I've discovered something huge about the 7 trumpets of Reverlation. What if I told you that I believe all 7 trumpets have ALREADY sounded?

What John wrote to describe the 5th Trumpet is a jawdropping match compared to what's written in Joel 2 describing the day of the Lord during the OT.

Joel 2:1-10, he describes the same locusts John saw in Revelation 9:1-12, the first woe... ready for the kicker?

Joel 2:2 says the locusts are "strong; there hath not been ever the like, *neither shall be any more after it, even to the years of many generations.*"
That had to to be the 5th trumpet then, no?

There's another kicker.. Shortly after, Joel 2:28 says
"28*And it shall come to pass *afterward*, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:
29*And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit."

Jesus coming earth WAS the earths sign of the 7th Trumpet:
"And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne." -Revelation 12:5

What are your thoughts my dear brother?
Good day Spiritled,

Regarding the trumpet judgments, which are the second set of God's wrath and which follow each other chronologically. These plagues of wrath will not be something that can pass by in history without notice, but will devastate the earth and its inhabitants, along with the seals and the bowls, which take place before and after, respectively. These plagues of wrath are also to take place leading up to the Lord's return to the earth to end the age which will decimate the majority of the population of the earth and dismantle all human governments.


1st Trumpet: A third of the earth and the trees are burned up. Note: If you have a third of the earth being burned up, the result will be many fatalities.


2nd Trumpet: An object hits in one of the oceans killing a third of the creatures in the sea and destroying a third of the ships. Note: how many people on those ships? How many coastal cities and people destroyed?


3rd Trumpet: An object falls on the rivers and springs of water contaminating a third of the earth's fresh water. The scripture states that many people die from drinking the water


4th Trumpet:
The sun, moon and stars are themselves darkened by a third so that there will be a third less light during both the night and day


5th Trumpet/1st Woe
: Demonic beings are released from the Abyss and commanded to torment the inhabitants of the earth with stings like that a scorpion

6th Trumpet/2nd Woe: Four fallen angels are released who gather a demonic army of 200 million and who kill a third of the earths population via fire, smoke and sulfur that issues from their mouths

7th Trumpet/3rd Woe: Satan and his angels are thrown out of heaven and restricted to the earth in the middle of that last seven years. Rejoice you who dwell in heaven, but Woe to the inhabitants of the earth.

Therefore, considering the above trumpet judgments, when has history ever experienced any such devastating plagues of wrath?
 
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Ahwatukee

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At some point (if) we believe that the beast is here now and God is pouring out the plagues on them for worshipping the beast and buying and selling with it's money the thought should cross our minds to open our wallets and purses and examine just how we do buy and sell.

So at current every nation,every person uses a debit card to buy and sell. Now our pin number is a number that only the one who calculated it has wisdom of. I guess it is in our foreheads because we memorize it. And i guess as soon as we swipe the card at the store we enter the pin number with our right hands. But who would go out on the limb and say for sure it is the mark?
You have the right idea. The system that the mark of the beast will utilize has been in place for some time, which is the system of electronic crediting and debiting (buying and selling). Currently the world uses magnetic or cards with chips or cell phone bank apps. and a number of other devices to perform electronic crediting and debiting.

As the world continues on, cash and checks will continue to be phased out in preparation for the time of that antichrist/beast and his mark, where all other methods of buying and selling (cash, checks, cards and phone apps, fobs, etc.) will eventually become invalid forms of electronic buying and selling, leaving only that coming device to be able to perform any financial transactions.

Regarding this coming mark, the world already has the technology for this and some are already being implanted with RFID chips under the skin of their hands. That we already have and are using this technology, demonstrates the truth and accuracy of God's word. This device used for electronic crediting and debiting I'm sure will continue to evolve, most likely becoming even smaller and may store other information. Below is a BBC Newscast from Jan. 2015. Just click on the link.


Swedish office staff offered implants to access facilities - BBC News
 

Ahwatukee

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Yes!,Rev.14:9-10 , Rev.16:1-2 ,Rev. ect. it's only poured out on those who have the mark
The only wrath of God that does not effect everyone is the 1st bowl judgment, which is an ugly painful sore that breaks out only on those who have the mark of the beast and worship his image. All the other seals, trumpets and bowls affect all of the inhabitants on the entire earth.