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**** no---- but involved with the 7 Mountain Stategy---- started I believe by Bill Bright---- heard Lance Wallnau teach it---- he actually prophecied Trump's Presidency 18 months ago---- also follow Evangelist Reinhardt Bonnke---- he has already won 73 million souls to the Lord in Africa--- he is saying Revival is coming to America...
https://www.gotquestions.org/seven-mountain-mandate.html

The seven mountain mandate or the seven mountain prophecy is an anti-biblical and damaging movement that has gained a following in some charismatic and Pentecostal churches. Those who follow the seven mountain mandate believe that, in order for Christ to return to earth, the church must take control of the seven major spheres of influence in society for the glory of Christ. Once the world has been made subject to the kingdom of God, Jesus will return and rule the world.

Here are the seven mountains, according to the seven mountain mandate:
1) Education
2) Religion
3) Family
4) Business
5) Government/Military
6) Arts/Entertainment
7) Media

These seven sectors of society are thought to mold the way everyone thinks and behaves. So, to tackle societal change, these seven “mountains” must be transformed. The mountains are also referred to as “pillars,” “shapers,” “molders,” and “spheres.” Those who follow the seven mountain mandate speak of “occupying” the mountains, “invading” the culture, and “transforming” society.

The seven mountain mandate has its roots in dominion theology, which started in the early 1970s with a goal of “taking dominion” of the earth, twisting Genesis 1:28 to include a mandate for Christians to control civil affairs and all other aspects of society. The New Apostolic Reformation, with its self-appointed prophets and apostles, has also influenced the seven mountain movement, lending dreams and visions and other extra-biblical revelations to the mandate.

The seven mountain mandate says that it is the duty of all Christians to create a worldwide kingdom for the glory of Christ. Teachers in the movement use Isaiah 2:2, which mentions mountains, in an attempt to support their view: “In the last days the mountain of the LORD’s temple will be established as the highest of the mountains; it will be exalted above the hills, and all nations will stream to it.” The principal goal of dominion theology and the seven mountain mandate is political and religious domination of the world through the implementation of the moral laws—and subsequent punishments—of the Old Testament.

Lance P. Wallnau coined the term seven mountain mandate and is its most prominent teacher. Wallnau adapts the missionary mandate of Jesus to His disciples to “go and make disciples” of all the nations into a mandate to effect social transformation. He reasons that, since churches already have a presence in every nation in the world, we need to now concentrate on influencing the systems (the “mountains”) within these nations. The problem, according to Wallnau, is that Christians are not currently influencing society outside the church. Christians have left the mountains susceptible to the “gates of hell,” which are spiritual portals over the “kings” (influence-shapers) of those mountains.

Wallnau’s teaching is loosely based on the Abrahamic Covenant, which promised Abraham a seed and a lasting inheritance. Also, Israel was promised in Deuteronomy 28:12–14 to be the “head and not the tail” among the nations. Proponents of the seven mountain mandate infer that the church, not Israel, is the entity to claim that promise. It is now up to believers to move in proximity to the “gates of hell” and position themselves to exert the greatest amount of influence. The church then needs to be dissected into “micro components” and infiltrate the mountains. Since every Christian can’t position himself at the top of every mountain, each individual is to find his particular smaller peak and be a leader in that realm.

The leading edge of the seven mountain mandate is the New Apostolic Reformation, which teaches that the church of the 21st century will be ruled by apostles and prophets. The movement is not governed by a specific denomination but by the alleged apostles and prophets who, of course, claim to receive direct revelation from God. In lending credence to modern-day prophets and apostles, the NAR denigrates the Bible and sola scriptura, emphasizes experience-oriented theology, and promotes mysticism.

The NAR and proponents of the seven mountain mandate have abandoned biblical teaching on the end times, choosing to believe that Christians must set the stage for Jesus’ second coming by achieving dominion over the world’s systems. According to 7-M theology, Jesus will only return to a world that mirrors the kingdom of God. This idea parallels the New Age teaching that anticipates a cosmic spiritual shift when man becomes a co-redeemer of Planet Earth.

Sorry, but your belief system is messed up from the floor up. None of it is biblical.
 
Aug 15, 2009
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Before one could "take America back", it had to have been under the church's control in the first place, which it wasn't.

Israel is the only "nation" that God is interested in, & even then it's going to be a small number.

The church is here to be a witness of the Gospel. Scripture says in the end few will be saved. "Nation" doesn't fit into that equation.

Much has been said in this thread about America, & much of that is true. It's too late for turning any nation around, for delusion is already setting in.

Before saying "Take America back," one needs to check with God to see if He wants it in the first place.:rolleyes:
 

JaumeJ

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Jul 2, 2011
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God needs no help from His creatures to fulfill what He has promises.....
 

JaumeJ

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Jul 2, 2011
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#44
You know I went to a lot of trouble to correct this from promised to promises.....go figureW! and a big duhhhhh from here.


God needs no help from His creatures to fulfill what He has promises.....
 

88

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Nov 14, 2016
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#45
Before one could "take America back", it had to have been under the church's control in the first place, which it wasn't.

Israel is the only "nation" that God is interested in, & even then it's going to be a small number.

The church is here to be a witness of the Gospel. Scripture says in the end few will be saved. "Nation" doesn't fit into that equation.

Much has been said in this thread about America, & much of that is true. It's too late for turning any nation around, for delusion is already setting in.

Before saying "Take America back," one needs to check with God to see if He wants it in the first place.:rolleyes:
**** the Lord is going to sweep across America---- millions will be saved---- Just seeing Trump in office is a sign---- Mike Pence speaking for "Right For Life"----if we leave our country and its leadership to heathens we are not responsible---- even Paul used his Roman citizenship to an advantage---- we will rule because the Lord is in men' s hearts...
 

88

Senior Member
Nov 14, 2016
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#46
What's your plan to take America back for God---We are facing judgment for basically rejecting God----yes, we are a religious people---even a loving people---but are we not following God's very basic commands that he judges nations by----IDOLATRY------LYING----STEALING----SEXUAL IMMORALITY----MURDER----COVETOUSNESS*************Hey just sit there until the Rapture happens----------or---------------Wait for the Anti-Christ and the Tribulation and lose your head-----How can we see a REFORMATION------AWAKENING------REVIVAL------the ball is in our court---what say you...?
**** share the gospel more...
 

88

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Nov 14, 2016
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#47
https://www.gotquestions.org/seven-mountain-mandate.html

The seven mountain mandate or the seven mountain prophecy is an anti-biblical and damaging movement that has gained a following in some charismatic and Pentecostal churches. Those who follow the seven mountain mandate believe that, in order for Christ to return to earth, the church must take control of the seven major spheres of influence in society for the glory of Christ. Once the world has been made subject to the kingdom of God, Jesus will return and rule the world.

Here are the seven mountains, according to the seven mountain mandate:
1) Education
2) Religion
3) Family
4) Business
5) Government/Military
6) Arts/Entertainment
7) Media

These seven sectors of society are thought to mold the way everyone thinks and behaves. So, to tackle societal change, these seven “mountains” must be transformed. The mountains are also referred to as “pillars,” “shapers,” “molders,” and “spheres.” Those who follow the seven mountain mandate speak of “occupying” the mountains, “invading” the culture, and “transforming” society.

The seven mountain mandate has its roots in dominion theology, which started in the early 1970s with a goal of “taking dominion” of the earth, twisting Genesis 1:28 to include a mandate for Christians to control civil affairs and all other aspects of society. The New Apostolic Reformation, with its self-appointed prophets and apostles, has also influenced the seven mountain movement, lending dreams and visions and other extra-biblical revelations to the mandate.

The seven mountain mandate says that it is the duty of all Christians to create a worldwide kingdom for the glory of Christ. Teachers in the movement use Isaiah 2:2, which mentions mountains, in an attempt to support their view: “In the last days the mountain of the LORD’s temple will be established as the highest of the mountains; it will be exalted above the hills, and all nations will stream to it.” The principal goal of dominion theology and the seven mountain mandate is political and religious domination of the world through the implementation of the moral laws—and subsequent punishments—of the Old Testament.

Lance P. Wallnau coined the term seven mountain mandate and is its most prominent teacher. Wallnau adapts the missionary mandate of Jesus to His disciples to “go and make disciples” of all the nations into a mandate to effect social transformation. He reasons that, since churches already have a presence in every nation in the world, we need to now concentrate on influencing the systems (the “mountains”) within these nations. The problem, according to Wallnau, is that Christians are not currently influencing society outside the church. Christians have left the mountains susceptible to the “gates of hell,” which are spiritual portals over the “kings” (influence-shapers) of those mountains.

Wallnau’s teaching is loosely based on the Abrahamic Covenant, which promised Abraham a seed and a lasting inheritance. Also, Israel was promised in Deuteronomy 28:12–14 to be the “head and not the tail” among the nations. Proponents of the seven mountain mandate infer that the church, not Israel, is the entity to claim that promise. It is now up to believers to move in proximity to the “gates of hell” and position themselves to exert the greatest amount of influence. The church then needs to be dissected into “micro components” and infiltrate the mountains. Since every Christian can’t position himself at the top of every mountain, each individual is to find his particular smaller peak and be a leader in that realm.

The leading edge of the seven mountain mandate is the New Apostolic Reformation, which teaches that the church of the 21st century will be ruled by apostles and prophets. The movement is not governed by a specific denomination but by the alleged apostles and prophets who, of course, claim to receive direct revelation from God. In lending credence to modern-day prophets and apostles, the NAR denigrates the Bible and sola scriptura, emphasizes experience-oriented theology, and promotes mysticism.

The NAR and proponents of the seven mountain mandate have abandoned biblical teaching on the end times, choosing to believe that Christians must set the stage for Jesus’ second coming by achieving dominion over the world’s systems. According to 7-M theology, Jesus will only return to a world that mirrors the kingdom of God. This idea parallels the New Age teaching that anticipates a cosmic spiritual shift when man becomes a co-redeemer of Planet Earth.

Sorry, but your belief system is messed up from the floor up. None of it is biblical.
**** I have heard the 7 Mountain Teaching at Conferences and it is not taught like Dominion Theology---'- our goal is to bring in the harvest---- occupy our society by practicing the Great Commission---- go into all the world including----- business----- finance----- education---- government----- Church---- Family----Military----bring the Gospel---- we should not leave America for the pagans--- but get good leaders like Trump----- Pence---- Devoss ect.---- to bring light into a dark place---- we do believe in apostles and prophets ---- so does Ephesians 5---- to perfect the saints---- we believe there will be a Tribulation--- Church won't be there in my studies---no one currently is trying to rule over anyone----- and I been in many Church Camps for 40 years--'- those I have seen with true authority are humble--- and this is the true apostolic pattern-'- humility---yes, we will rule and reign with Christ in the Millieum---we by no means elevate any gift, person, ect above the Bible---Lance Wallneu is a credible teacher----- he prophecied the Trump Presidency 18 months ago----we do believe Revival is imminent---- expect millions to be saved--- and hopefully America will repent...
 

88

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Nov 14, 2016
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#48
What's your plan to take America back for God---We are facing judgment for basically rejecting God----yes, we are a religious people---even a loving people---but are we not following God's very basic commands that he judges nations by----IDOLATRY------LYING----STEALING----SEXUAL IMMORALITY----MURDER----COVETOUSNESS*************Hey just sit there until the Rapture happens----------or---------------Wait for the Anti-Christ and the Tribulation and lose your head-----How can we see a REFORMATION------AWAKENING------REVIVAL------the ball is in our court---what say you...?
*** God is waiting on us to get active...
 

88

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Nov 14, 2016
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#49
What's your plan to take America back for God---We are facing judgment for basically rejecting God----yes, we are a religious people---even a loving people---but are we not following God's very basic commands that he judges nations by----IDOLATRY------LYING----STEALING----SEXUAL IMMORALITY----MURDER----COVETOUSNESS*************Hey just sit there until the Rapture happens----------or---------------Wait for the Anti-Christ and the Tribulation and lose your head-----How can we see a REFORMATION------AWAKENING------REVIVAL------the ball is in our court---what say you...?
**** do what God has called you to do...
 

88

Senior Member
Nov 14, 2016
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#50
What's your plan to take America back for God---We are facing judgment for basically rejecting God----yes, we are a religious people---even a loving people---but are we not following God's very basic commands that he judges nations by----IDOLATRY------LYING----STEALING----SEXUAL IMMORALITY----MURDER----COVETOUSNESS*************Hey just sit there until the Rapture happens----------or---------------Wait for the Anti-Christ and the Tribulation and lose your head-----How can we see a REFORMATION------AWAKENING------REVIVAL------the ball is in our court---what say you...?
*****Time is Now...
https://youtu.be/YGNbMyhI8eU
 

MadebyHim

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Dec 17, 2016
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**** do what God has called you to do...

God has called all to share His love and Jesus the way the truth and the life, and how much He loves all. Loves conquers all things.
 

88

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Nov 14, 2016
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#52
What's your plan to take America back for God---We are facing judgment for basically rejecting God----yes, we are a religious people---even a loving people---but are we not following God's very basic commands that he judges nations by----IDOLATRY------LYING----STEALING----SEXUAL IMMORALITY----MURDER----COVETOUSNESS*************Hey just sit there until the Rapture happens----------or---------------Wait for the Anti-Christ and the Tribulation and lose your head-----How can we see a REFORMATION------AWAKENING------REVIVAL------the ball is in our court---what say you...?
*** Get Radical---- the World is---- Get Radical and on Fire...
 

88

Senior Member
Nov 14, 2016
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#53
What's your plan to take America back for God---We are facing judgment for basically rejecting God----yes, we are a religious people---even a loving people---but are we not following God's very basic commands that he judges nations by----IDOLATRY------LYING----STEALING----SEXUAL IMMORALITY----MURDER----COVETOUSNESS*************Hey just sit there until the Rapture happens----------or---------------Wait for the Anti-Christ and the Tribulation and lose your head-----How can we see a REFORMATION------AWAKENING------REVIVAL------the ball is in our court---what say you...?
****be part of the solution...