homeschooling???

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[h=3]Should we be the ones to teach our kid given the chance? is it Gods want for use to?

Proverbs 22:6
[/h]Train up a child in the way he should go; even when he is old he will not depart from it.

[h=3]Deuteronomy 6:5-9 [/h]You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your might. And these words that I command you today shall be on your heart. You shall teach them diligently to your children, and shall talk of them when you sit in your house, and when you walk by the way, and when you lie down, and when you rise. You shall bind them as a sign on your hand, and they shall be as frontlets between your eyes. You shall write them on the doorposts of your house and on your gates.
 

posthuman

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i know some people who have tried it, because of principal, but who were not apparently fit to take up the burden of teaching, i.e., they kind of botched it.

i was home-schooled. partially. i don't think i was botched ((?))
i am really grateful for having been home schooled. i think the stats show that in general there is a great benefit in some ways -- and that in other ways there are detriments, particularly in social relationships and in sometimes in discipline.

i don't think these scriptures mean "forsake public education" -- i think they mean don't neglect to teach your children yourself, in addition to what knowledge and skills they may learn from other places.

children are not going to be educated in the things of God at public school, and though maybe in some private schools, certainly not all of them. they are not a substitute for parenting. i don't believe every parent is a ready substitute for an educational system full of trained, knowledgeable, dedicated people though. some parents, yes. and there are a lot of ways to get support. but it's a big undertaking, not to be taken lightly.. and at some point, our children will have learned already everything on some subjects that we are able to teach. how can i teach my son sociology when i don't understand it? calculus? french? literature? economics?

there are a lot of good reasons to homeschool, and a lot of good reasons to place them under the tutelage of professional teachers too. i don't think it's an easy question, and i think the instructions in the scripture pertain to teaching our children the truth of who Christ is, about righteousness and the fear of God, and wisdom. i don't think it's a mandate to keep them out of organized education.

 

Locutus

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Maybe you could have benefited from the school meal program

:p
 
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♪ Teach your children well, their father's hell did slowly go by,
And feed them on your dreams, the one they pick's the one you'll know by.
Don't you ever ask them why, if they told you, you would cry,
So just look at them and sigh and know they love you. ♪
 
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The 'social detriment' is an overplayed card. Really i believe the primary cause for a lack of socialization in home schooled kids is the part isolating the child 'from the world'.
I know in some areas of S CA the home school kids can be so active and socialized the parents have to rein in the activities because the schooling falls behind.
 
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Sure.....and a proven fact....homeschooled kids score higher on the ATC...........
 

Angela53510

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I know quite a few homeschooled children through church and my daughter. My daughter, met them in figure skating and public school. The ones in public school had obviously stopped being home schooled. The ones in figure skating were ill equipped to skate, totally unathletic, it was painful to watch. But their mom got all the fees paid, which is outrageous, as I paid through the nose all those years for her lessons, both ice and coaching fees.

She said every child that came into the school from home schooling had terrible social skills. She ended up befriending a young girl whose Mormon parents kept her out of school. But the year they divorced, she fought to go to school. My daughter taught her social skills, but she is still very insecure. She literally has done everything my daughter did, a few years later, including moving cities just to be near here, her only friend. And she is nice and smart. So sad she was not given the opportunity to develop more. Plus, she has no critical thinking skills. She has gotten sucked into the vortex of radical feminism, esp. since Trump got elected, and she has no foundation to evalute whether this philosophy is correct, or if she is comipletely brainwashed, as my daughter feels.

I always remember visiting a family who was home schooling. The daughter was in grade 10 or 11. The father proudly said she was learning fractions, so she could cook, and how well home schooling worked! Try algebra and geometry in those grades. Fractions is elementary school. That really turned me off home schooling.

I do believe parents need to teach their children basics, everything from discipline to house cleaning, yard work, and most important, who God is, how to know and serve him. And yes, some public schools are pretty humanist these days. My son was looking at various kindergarten options for his daughter next year. He figured out quickly that his daughter was not going to learn anything in the local neighbourhood school. The French Immersion was good, but fortunately, she got into the gifted school. Keeping them learning, say math or physics, when you haven't made it through school or post secondary is an exercise in futility. I have loads of university math, but I never would have dreamed of trying to teach my kids to learn advanced concepts like that. So much better to have a teacher with a passion, knowledge and experience teaching those schools.

I was a public school teacher, before I was disabled, and I learned a few things to avoid. Stay away from "open" education and schools with team teaching, and walls moved back. That is just bad news. If you can find a traditional curriculum, that is going to teach basics in the early years, and later, advanced work in real subjects like Literature, Chemistry, Math, and other science, the children will be fine.
 

FrankLee

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We homeschooled our children until the older two, son and daughter went into the ninth grade. When our daughter Joanna was killed with the assistance of a drinking driver, our youngest daughter, Laura was in the fourth grade and we elected to put her in public school also.

Joanna won the county spelling bee against all public and parochial school contestants and loved reading and writing. She wanted to be a journalist before her life was taken at 15.

Homeschooling was only part of it as we had our business office on our place and I was here much of the time. We were dedicated in raising our children to know Jesus and they all really knew Him from a very young age. Joanna was five when she asked Jesus to come into her heart. We used Alpha-Omega, a Christian curriculum and other source materials. We elected not to have a television until they were eight or nine and it was a wonderful decision.

I spent hours reading to them, teaching their ABC's and doing other projects. Their mother did the lion's share of teaching while I worked in my office here or was in the field or with a client. I was an industrial consultant and designer to the forest products industry. Nathan is a student of Jewish history and still does studies on Israel, the Hebrews, Biblical number history.

Laura went to college on music and academic scholarships and graduated summa cum laude with a double major in history and English. She is park interpreter for one of the Civil War Battlefield state parks here in the state.

Had to boast some. Homeschooling is a serious undertaking so consider it carefully and count the cost. When we first began to contemplate it we thought "how can we do this"? After a while our thoughts turned to" how can we not do this"!?

We were unusual in that we didn't have children for the first fourteen years of our marriage. My wife was unable to conceive due to a condition that was medically unchangeable. I became a Christian and God began to tell us He was going to send us a son and after a few years and a book full of adventures with Jesus I was home and praying in the spirit when He told me my wife was pregnant. The lab agreed and my wife wrote His name in a baby book that same week and he was born about nine months later. The Lord sent our daughters and after the travails in having children we felt very responsible to Jesus for raising and schooling them. We are so called full gospel spirit baptized family and yes we speak in tongues and believe Jesus is the same yesterday, today and forever. He came and got me out here in the country, saved me and filled me with His Holy Spirit. After being more or less drug to the cross by the savior I was overjoyed to escape the darkness of my previous heathen life.

Sorry to ramble on here so long but all of this is associated and home schooling them is part of that same story. We did receive much criticism over aspects of home schooling, especially the lack of "socialization". We belonged to a home schooling association that had frequent get togethers. Church afforded other friends, many of which were also home schooled. A friend's wife, a liberal non-Christian social worker, was practically enraged at the very idea of us dunderheads teaching our children. She practically screamed at me "what makes you think you are qualified"?!

Well, there were 55 applicants for the position of park interpreter at the civil war Battlefield state park where Laura is now employed and she came out by God's grace. I'd say the dunderheads did a fair job mostly with God's wonderful help and grace. Be prepared, there will be resistance! Especially from heathen relatives. But a look at our horrible school system ought to give any Christian parents pause. We have every workbook, every picture they drew, every scrap they wrote during those years. Treasures.

It's the BEST investment of self and time ever made and today we reap the joyful harvest of having them serving God and really knowing our savior. You can do this with God's help but not without it. Many tears, prayers and labors were sowed but we are reaping the joy. May the Holy Spirit guide you in raising up your little olive plants!
 
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Unfortunately, at least with my experiences, the education system is not teaching the kids as much as they need to know. Even in grade 8, my son getting nearly straight As, can't effectively write a paragraph by himself. Now we are working more closely with him because we realized the marks are no indication of ability. They just have no expectations for them. I know my children's potential and demand it from them. This might frustrate them from time to time but hopefully one day they will thank me.
 
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My granddaughter is homeschooled, goes to a homeschooler's group for PE & trips. She has no social problems whatsoever. She is currently ahead of her curriculum.

It's my experience if you do the right things with the right heart God will bless it & increase it.
 
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Should we be the ones to teach our kid given the chance? is it Gods want for use to?

Proverbs 22:6


Train up a child in the way he should go; even when he is old he will not depart from it.

Deuteronomy 6:5-9

You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your might. And these words that I command you today shall be on your heart. You shall teach them diligently to your children, and shall talk of them when you sit in your house, and when you walk by the way, and when you lie down, and when you rise. You shall bind them as a sign on your hand, and they shall be as frontlets between your eyes. You shall write them on the doorposts of your house and on your gates.
The way things are in the United States right now, homeschooling might be a good idea for those families who can afford to have one parent stay home. Otherwise, they need to do a good job inoculating their kids against certain socially liberal ideas that might get planted in their heads.
 

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Should we be the ones to teach our kid given the chance? is it Gods want for use to?

Proverbs 22:6


Train up a child in the way he should go; even when he is old he will not depart from it.

Deuteronomy 6:5-9

You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your might. And these words that I command you today shall be on your heart. You shall teach them diligently to your children, and shall talk of them when you sit in your house, and when you walk by the way, and when you lie down, and when you rise. You shall bind them as a sign on your hand, and they shall be as frontlets between your eyes. You shall write them on the doorposts of your house and on your gates.
****if it is possible and you can give them a good education----also sending them to a good Christian School is also good---I don't like public education too much (I was a 2nd grade Elementary Teacher)---because kids need to be exposed to the Gospel and Christian values in this generation----bottom line is kids need a lot of Godly input...
 
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Should we be the ones to teach our kid given the chance? is it Gods want for use to?

Proverbs 22:6


Train up a child in the way he should go; even when he is old he will not depart from it.

Deuteronomy 6:5-9

You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your might. And these words that I command you today shall be on your heart. You shall teach them diligently to your children, and shall talk of them when you sit in your house, and when you walk by the way, and when you lie down, and when you rise. You shall bind them as a sign on your hand, and they shall be as frontlets between your eyes. You shall write them on the doorposts of your house and on your gates.
I think "training up" is always done in the home. Not the same as homeschooling though.

I absolutely learned how to act from my parents, but no way should Dad teach anyone math. He was a chemical engineer, but had no way of even figuring out my homework once more teach me how to do divisions.

We're to train up our kids, but that doesn't necessarily equate them to being homeschooled.
 
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Should we be the ones to teach our kid given the chance? is it Gods want for use to?

Proverbs 22:6


Train up a child in the way he should go; even when he is old he will not depart from it.

Deuteronomy 6:5-9

You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your might. And these words that I command you today shall be on your heart. You shall teach them diligently to your children, and shall talk of them when you sit in your house, and when you walk by the way, and when you lie down, and when you rise. You shall bind them as a sign on your hand, and they shall be as frontlets between your eyes. You shall write them on the doorposts of your house and on your gates.

Sometime, I think the church should step back in as being the place to teach children education so as to keep the lie that is the evolution theory out
 
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The way things are in the United States right now, homeschooling might be a good idea for those families who can afford to have one parent stay home. Otherwise, they need to do a good job inoculating their kids against certain socially liberal ideas that might get planted in their heads.
Actually, we were planning on homeschooling our kids. (Never had any.) And we were definitely a two-income family. We were going to do what hubby's friend did. He worked from 3-11 PM. She was a teacher, so worked from 7-3. Once the kids were old enough to take care of themselves, then he could go back to day hours. (Ends up, he truly enjoys the night hours. But it still worked out. He works for Drexel, and all their kids were given a free education at Drexel. Really worked out right, since Drexel is one of the toughest colleges in the country. They try to make classes so hard that most students drop out quickly. The two of them raised kids who could withstand the workload and still get great grades.)

It is possible to homeschool in a two-income family. It's just harder.
 
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Sometime, I think the church should step back in as being the place to teach children education so as to keep the lie that is the evolution theory out
I trust people to figure out where the lies are. I was taught that lie in public schools. Of all the lies I was given, that was the least. My parents taught me how to think for myself, so I did figure out the lies eventually.

If I homeschooled, I'm sure evolution is in the curriculum. I'd teach it. Showing the theory itself also shows how it is wrong. ;)
 
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Thanks for your post. You have brought forth some good thoughts and provoked some great responses. As both a public school teacher and homeschool Mom and now Grandmom, I gotta say I believe there is a good place for homeschooling "done right". I also think there is a place for public school and/or private school "done right.”

I believe that parents are responsible for their children's learning and should take an active part in whatever educational choice they make for their children.

No matter what choice you make, parents need to be active and they need a support group. I really like the cooperative learning education model for that reason.

"Done well" it seems to be an ideal situation for many parents and children. Accountability is needed and all of us need to be encouraged and sometimes directed. I offer "homeschool support for local homeschoolers" and our homeschool group helps to find teachers for groups of students in subjects that are not able to be covered by the parents.

This works for us. You have to find the "best" way and go for it.

Thanks for sharing!