Praying For Everyone Who Struggles With Temptation
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Perhaps not where you have been reading, but it has been said to me in these posts many times.
It is also accompanied by works do not help in saving a soul, which I know, but works are teh issue of the saved.
People who say grae only also tell me I am under the law because I believe in being obedient.
Now being obedient does mean obeying the law, and it means teh law that is place in our hearts, as prophesied, and written in our minds as prophesied, but no one is going to convince anyone who does nto already have them within, and thos grace only folks apparently do not have them within, otherwise they would be overjoyed to obey..........
Of course they come in by means of teh Holy spirit.
It is also accompanied by works do not help in saving a soul, which I know, but works are teh issue of the saved.
People who say grae only also tell me I am under the law because I believe in being obedient.
Now being obedient does mean obeying the law, and it means teh law that is place in our hearts, as prophesied, and written in our minds as prophesied, but no one is going to convince anyone who does nto already have them within, and thos grace only folks apparently do not have them within, otherwise they would be overjoyed to obey..........
Of course they come in by means of teh Holy spirit.
I can understand that. Sometimes people say things like " You need to keep the Sabbath Day as in the Law of Moses". Then I can see people would have an issue with that kind of "obedience" to the law of Moses.
But the life of Christ in and through us will not violate anything that is of goodness and love towards others.
But the life of Christ in and through us will not violate anything that is of goodness and love towards others.
I agree...but this is not the law of Moses in our hearts. It is the law of Christ and His life in us which would not violate the intent of the law of Moses. Walking in love fulfills all the intent of the Law.
A Christian does not live by the law of Moses but by the law of the spirit of life in Christ Jesus. The Christian has died to the law of Moses, been released from the law of Moses and is not under the law of Moses anymore but under grace.
We have His life in us now for life and living - not 613 commands from the law of Moses.
A Christian does not live by the law of Moses but by the law of the spirit of life in Christ Jesus. The Christian has died to the law of Moses, been released from the law of Moses and is not under the law of Moses anymore but under grace.
We have His life in us now for life and living - not 613 commands from the law of Moses.
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Its not about defending myself; it's about defending God's grace, and yes, sometimes it's done with an attitude. I'm sorry you feel the need to enter a thread of encouragement looking for a fight; that's sad, and indeed hypocritical on your part.
It would have been awesome beyond words had you posted something stating you're surprised I'm the author of such a thread but that you would support the effort in an attempt to help everyone achieve its desired purpose. I hope God blesses you today with a spirit of peace. No hypocrisy there.
It would have been awesome beyond words had you posted something stating you're surprised I'm the author of such a thread but that you would support the effort in an attempt to help everyone achieve its desired purpose. I hope God blesses you today with a spirit of peace. No hypocrisy there.
I cannot count the manhy times I have posted we know the law now according to the teaching of Jesus Christ.
If we indeed have the law withing, we still obey, only now by the Holy Spirit. By the Holy Spirit I have been given to discern which laws are still in play, even among all those laws written down and deliverd by mOSES.
Any and all who claim they love or they obey by the Holy Spirit must know the above. If they are just parroting it, it shows becausse they ae the first to say the law is totally obsolete. Not according to the Spirit that dwells in me.
I KNOW the Ten Commandments are to be obeyed. I kow that when we slip on any law or commandment we are seen by God as innocent b ecause of Jesus Christ, but nev er say the law is dead or obsolet. This is saying Jesus Christ is a liar........
All who have the Holy Spirit indwelling know the law. If it is place inside of us, then we know the law to obey...We live in grace, but this is not license to disobey our Heavenly Father.
It is not like something too complicated to attain, it is a gift to be recev ed by all who believe Jesus Christ.
If we indeed have the law withing, we still obey, only now by the Holy Spirit. By the Holy Spirit I have been given to discern which laws are still in play, even among all those laws written down and deliverd by mOSES.
Any and all who claim they love or they obey by the Holy Spirit must know the above. If they are just parroting it, it shows becausse they ae the first to say the law is totally obsolete. Not according to the Spirit that dwells in me.
I KNOW the Ten Commandments are to be obeyed. I kow that when we slip on any law or commandment we are seen by God as innocent b ecause of Jesus Christ, but nev er say the law is dead or obsolet. This is saying Jesus Christ is a liar........
All who have the Holy Spirit indwelling know the law. If it is place inside of us, then we know the law to obey...We live in grace, but this is not license to disobey our Heavenly Father.
It is not like something too complicated to attain, it is a gift to be recev ed by all who believe Jesus Christ.
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I believe if we identify the temptations and then posts scriptures or reasoning of why those sins are harmful, it can help people resist giving into temptations.
The temptations I most often see here is:
1. Judging others negatively
2. Partiality, preferential treatment of those you like
3. Driving need to be right and respected
4. Desiring to be heard more than to listen
I am sure there are more but maybe if we address these with scriptures it may help?
1. God doesn't want us Judging others because we are all still works in process. We can address their beliefs but unless they know we love them as people,our words are but clanging cymbals. (i can post scriptures later if needed)
2. We should treat all with love and respect even if we personally don't like because God says bless our enemies, pray for those who curse us for God makes it rain on good and evil people alike. This teaching goes against our human nature and what the world teaches.
3. Wisdom from above is yielding. Sometimes it better to drop the topic and pray for the person disagreeing with you, than continuing a discuss where the person is defensive and irrational.
4. If everyone is yelling to be heard, who is left to listen?
Anyway, those are my thoughts because I am tempted to yell to be heard, fight to be seen as right, favor those who are kind to me and judge others harshly.
However, God tells me that is not His ways, so now I just read and pray.
I still think this is an awesome thread Utah.
It is a new day. Why do people still hold onto anger?
If you don't lay your anger done at the cross every night, you give the devil a foothold into your mind,heart and life.
I have bible verses for that spiritual truth too.
The temptations I most often see here is:
1. Judging others negatively
2. Partiality, preferential treatment of those you like
3. Driving need to be right and respected
4. Desiring to be heard more than to listen
I am sure there are more but maybe if we address these with scriptures it may help?
1. God doesn't want us Judging others because we are all still works in process. We can address their beliefs but unless they know we love them as people,our words are but clanging cymbals. (i can post scriptures later if needed)
2. We should treat all with love and respect even if we personally don't like because God says bless our enemies, pray for those who curse us for God makes it rain on good and evil people alike. This teaching goes against our human nature and what the world teaches.
3. Wisdom from above is yielding. Sometimes it better to drop the topic and pray for the person disagreeing with you, than continuing a discuss where the person is defensive and irrational.
4. If everyone is yelling to be heard, who is left to listen?
Anyway, those are my thoughts because I am tempted to yell to be heard, fight to be seen as right, favor those who are kind to me and judge others harshly.
However, God tells me that is not His ways, so now I just read and pray.
I still think this is an awesome thread Utah.
It is a new day. Why do people still hold onto anger?
If you don't lay your anger done at the cross every night, you give the devil a foothold into your mind,heart and life.
I have bible verses for that spiritual truth too.
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1 Corinthians 13:1 ►
New International Version
If I speak in the tongues of men or of angels, but do not have love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal.
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Matthew 15v45
that ye may be the children of your Father who is in Heaven. For He maketh His sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.
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James 3
But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, willing to yield, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality and without hypocrisy. Now the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace by those who make peace.But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, willing to yield, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality and without hypocrisy. Now the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace by those who make peace.
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Ephesians 4 v 26-27
“Be angry, and do not sin”: do not let the sun go down on your wrath, nor give place to the devil.
New International Version
If I speak in the tongues of men or of angels, but do not have love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal.
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Matthew 15v45
that ye may be the children of your Father who is in Heaven. For He maketh His sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.
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James 3
But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, willing to yield, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality and without hypocrisy. Now the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace by those who make peace.But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, willing to yield, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality and without hypocrisy. Now the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace by those who make peace.
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Ephesians 4 v 26-27
“Be angry, and do not sin”: do not let the sun go down on your wrath, nor give place to the devil.
The less one submits to God, the more trouble they'll have with temptation.
No submission means we're slaves to a different master.
Mat 6:24
New International Version
"No one can serve two masters. Either you will hate the one and love the other, or you will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money.
New Living Translation
"No one can serve two masters. For you will hate one and love the other; you will be devoted to one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money.
English Standard Version
“No one can serve two masters, for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and money.
Berean Study Bible
No one can serve two masters: Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money.
Berean Literal Bible
No one is able to serve two masters, for either he will hate the one and he will love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and he will despise the other. You are not able to serve God and mammon.
New American Standard Bible
"No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and wealth.
No submission means we're slaves to a different master.
Mat 6:24
New International Version
"No one can serve two masters. Either you will hate the one and love the other, or you will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money.
New Living Translation
"No one can serve two masters. For you will hate one and love the other; you will be devoted to one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money.
English Standard Version
“No one can serve two masters, for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and money.
Berean Study Bible
No one can serve two masters: Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money.
Berean Literal Bible
No one is able to serve two masters, for either he will hate the one and he will love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and he will despise the other. You are not able to serve God and mammon.
New American Standard Bible
"No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and wealth.
For they disciplined us for a short time as seemed best to them, but He disciplines us for our good, so that we may share His holiness.
All discipline for the moment seems not to be joyful, but sorrowful; yet to those who have been trained by it, afterwards it yields the peaceful fruit of righteousness.
Therefore, strengthen the hands that are weak and the knees that are feeble, and make straight paths for your feet, so that the limb which is lame may not be put out of joint, but rather be healed.
Pursue peace with all men, and the sanctification without which no one will see the Lord. See to it that no one comes short of the grace of God; that no root of bitterness springing up causes trouble, and by it many be defiled (Heb 12:10-15)
that's what you mean, right, Utah?
nice thread idea! may the Lord be with us and help us.
All discipline for the moment seems not to be joyful, but sorrowful; yet to those who have been trained by it, afterwards it yields the peaceful fruit of righteousness.
Therefore, strengthen the hands that are weak and the knees that are feeble, and make straight paths for your feet, so that the limb which is lame may not be put out of joint, but rather be healed.
Pursue peace with all men, and the sanctification without which no one will see the Lord. See to it that no one comes short of the grace of God; that no root of bitterness springing up causes trouble, and by it many be defiled (Heb 12:10-15)
that's what you mean, right, Utah?
nice thread idea! may the Lord be with us and help us.
bitterness is akin to 'hatred and wickedness',- from the root the seed springs forth the fruits'...
stubbornness is akin to 'idolatry and wickedness', no matter how ingrained it is, it can be
'over-come', after 'Conversion', but only with our Saviour's Grace/Schooling...
we must always be the 'watch-keepers' of our actions, as to be pleasing to our Saviour in our
profound Thankfulness that lives inside the very core of our hearts/being,
for His Most Holy Sacrifice to mankind...
stubbornness is akin to 'idolatry and wickedness', no matter how ingrained it is, it can be
'over-come', after 'Conversion', but only with our Saviour's Grace/Schooling...
we must always be the 'watch-keepers' of our actions, as to be pleasing to our Saviour in our
profound Thankfulness that lives inside the very core of our hearts/being,
for His Most Holy Sacrifice to mankind...
The devil as a roaring lion walks about seeking who he may devour....in light of that the following verses apply to all of God's children
New American Standard Bible
But resist him, firm in your faith, knowing that the same experiences of suffering are being accomplished by your brethren who are in the world.
King James Bible
Whom resist stedfast in the faith, knowing that the same afflictions are accomplished in your brethren that are in the world.
New American Standard Bible
But resist him, firm in your faith, knowing that the same experiences of suffering are being accomplished by your brethren who are in the world.
King James Bible
Whom resist stedfast in the faith, knowing that the same afflictions are accomplished in your brethren that are in the world.