The Purpose of the Commandments

[resurrection33]

I think a lot of people are under the impression that the purpose of the Lord’s commandments is to save us from eternal retribution. If one takes time to think about it, however, I think you will discover that it is possible to get into a whole lot of trouble right here on earth, and that by obeying the Lord’s commandments, that can be averted.

 

[FreeNChrist]

What is the Lord commanding you today?

 

[resurrection33]

What is the Lord commanding you today?

“You know the commandments: `Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Honor your father and mother.'" Luke 18:20 RSV

Is that a fair answer?

 

[seed_time_harvest]

I think a lot of people are under the impression that the purpose of the Lord’s commandments is to save us from eternal retribution. If one takes time to think about it, however, I think you will discover that it is possible to get into a whole lot of trouble right here on earth, and that by obeying the Lord’s commandments, that can be averted.

Are you saying,we could get Into a lot of trouble here on earth by trying to keep one or more of the ten commandments that would offend society In order to be accepted easier In this world system?

A person would be deceiving themselves by thinking they could keep them anyway and maybe trying to keep one might make society look down on you but before GOD that person would already be condemned anyway.

Only JESUS kept the law and those In CHRIST,members of HIS body do not have to strain to keep the law because JESUS Is the vine providing the nourishment and we are the branches displaying the fruit.

 

[p_rehbein]

Are you speaking of the Ten Commandments, or the Law of the First Testament?

 

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I think a lot of people are under the impression that the purpose of the Lord’s commandments is to save us from eternal retribution. If one takes time to think about it, however, I think you will discover that it is possible to get into a whole lot of trouble right here on earth, and that by obeying the Lord’s commandments, that can be averted.

Actually, I think the purpose of the commandments was to show us who God is. He's the only one who keeps them perfectly always.

And in that we see how far we have fallen from who we should be.

And when we notice that, we come back right where the Israelites should have gone in the first place. Saying, "God, I cannot do this. Help me."

 

[Depleted]

“You know the commandments: `Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Honor your father and mother.'" Luke 18:20 RSV

Is that a fair answer?

Considering you missed context and most of the commandments, no, it isn't a fair answer. (Jesus then told the man who said that he was supposed to sell everything and follow him.)

Here are the real Ten:
1 [FONT=Helvetica Neue, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]“I am the [/FONT][FONT=&quot]Lord[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica Neue, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif] your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“You shall have no other gods before me.[/FONT]
2 [FONT=Helvetica Neue, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]“You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica Neue, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif] [/FONT][FONT=&quot]You shall not bow down to them or serve them, for I the Lord your God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and the fourth generation of those who hate me,[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica Neue, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif] [/FONT][FONT=&quot]but showing steadfast love to thousands of those who love me and keep my commandments.[/FONT]
3 [FONT=Helvetica Neue, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]“You shall not take the name of the [/FONT][FONT=&quot]Lord[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica Neue, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif] your God in vain, for the [/FONT][FONT=&quot]Lord[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica Neue, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif] will not hold him guiltless who takes his name in vain.[/FONT]
4 [FONT=Helvetica Neue, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]“Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.[/FONT][FONT=&quot] Six days you shall labor, and do all your work,[/FONT][FONT=&quot] but the seventh day is a Sabbath to the Lord your God. On it you shall not do any work, you, or your son, or your daughter, your male servant, or your female servant, or your livestock, or the sojourner who is within your gates.[/FONT][FONT=&quot] For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested on the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy.[/FONT]
5 [FONT=Helvetica Neue, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]“Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long in the land that the [/FONT][FONT=&quot]Lord[/FONT][FONT=Helvetica Neue, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif] your God is giving you.[/FONT]
6 [FONT=Helvetica Neue, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]“You shall not murder.[/FONT]
7 [FONT=Helvetica Neue, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]“You shall not commit adultery.[/FONT]
8 [FONT=Helvetica Neue, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]“You shall not steal.[/FONT]
9 [FONT=Helvetica Neue, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]“You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.[/FONT]
10 [FONT=Helvetica Neue, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]“You shall not covet your neighbor's house; you shall not covet your neighbor's wife, or his male servant, or his female servant, or his ox, or his donkey, or anything that is your neighbor's.”[/FONT]

How do you deal with them? Personally, the only ones I can handle are 7 and 8. The 5th and 10th is really tough, but the first four are just about impossible.

If all we had to do was the Ten Commandments then there was no reason Jesus had to come and die.

 

[FreeNChrist]

“You know the commandments: `Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Honor your father and mother.'" Luke 18:20 RSV

Is that a fair answer?

For those under the Law it is.

 

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I think a lot of people are under the impression that the purpose of the Lord’s commandments is to save us from eternal retribution. If one takes time to think about it, however, I think you will discover that it is possible to get into a whole lot of trouble right here on earth, and that by obeying the Lord’s commandments, that can be averted.

The purpose of the commandments is to Reveal sin.....

So that all human beings will become guilty in front of God....

The law makes everyone guilty because everyone has broken the Law...

The Law sets humble people up to embrace the forgivness of God through the Atonement of the LORD Jesus Christ..

Sadly the proud resist conviction and God resists the proud,, So they are doubly doomed..

So swallow your pride people and never resist the conviction of the Holy Spirit..

 

[Hizikyah]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Proverbs 6:23, "For the command is a lamp, And the Torah a light, And reproofs of discipline a way of life."[/FONT]



[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 John 4:20, “"If someone says, "I love Yah," and hates his brother, he is a liar; for the one who does not love his brother whom he has seen, cannot love Yah whom he has not seen."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 John 4:19-21, "We love Him, because He first loved us. If anyone says: I love YHWH, and hates his neighbor, he is a liar; for he who does not love his neighbor whom he has seen, how can he love YHWH Whom he has not seen? For we have this commandment from Him: That he who loves YHWH must love his neighbor also."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Now I am sure we can go ask 1,000,000,000 people "what is love" and get a different answer every time, but I say if we ask YHWH "what is love" a 1,000,000,000 times, we will get the same answer every time....[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mattithyah 22:37-40, "Yahshua said to him: You must love YHWH your Father with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might (Deuteronomy 6:5). This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself (Leviticus 19:18). On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Deuteronomy 6:5, "And you must love YHWH your Father with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Leviticus 19:18, "Do not seek revenge nor bear a grudge against one of your own people; but you shall love your neighbor; whether a brother or an enemy, as yourself. I am YHWH."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Romans 13:9, "For the commandments: You shall not commit adultery, You shall not murder, You shall not steal, You shall not bring false testimony, You shall not covet, and all other commandments are briefly summed up in these Laws; You must love your neighbor as yourself."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Exodus 20:6, "But showing love to thousands who love Me by keeping My Laws."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Mattithyah 24:12, "And because iniquity will abound, the love of the many will grow cold."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]"iniquity" is:#0458 anomia {an-om-ee'-ah} from G0459, Greek Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar)[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1) the condition of without law, 1a) because ignorant of it, 1b) because of violating it, 2) contempt and violation of law, iniquity, wickedness[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 Yahanan/John 5:2-3, "By this we know that we love the children of YHWH: When we love YHWH by keeping His Laws. For this is the love of YHWH: That we keep His Law, and His Law is not grievous."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Leviticus 19:18, "Do not seek revenge nor bear a grudge against one of your own people; but you shall love your neighbor; whether a brother or an enemy, as yourself. I am YHWH."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Leviticus 19:34, "The stranger living with you must be treated as one of your native-born, and you shall love him as yourself; for you were strangers in the land of Egypt. I am YHWH."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 Yahanan /John 2:3-7, “And by this we know that we know Him, if we guard His commands. The one who says, “I know Him,” and does not guard His commands, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. But whoever guards His Word, truly the love of Yah has been perfected in him. By this we know that we are in Him. The one who says he stays in Him ought himself also to walk, even as He walked. Beloved, I write no fresh command to you, but an old command which you have had from the beginning. The old command is the Word which you heard from the beginning.”[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 John 2:3-7 English Standard Version (ESV)[/FONT]
“[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]And by this we know that we have come to know him, if we keep his commandments. Whoever says “I know him” but does not keep his commandments is a liar, and the truth is not in him, but whoever keeps his word, in him truly the love of God is perfected. By this we may know that we are in him: whoever says he abides in him ought to walk in the same way in which he walked. Beloved, I am writing you no new commandment, but an old commandment that you had from the beginning. The old commandment is the word that you have heard. [/FONT]

 

[Hizikyah]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Isayah 8:20, "To the Law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Revelation 12:17 - Parallel Verses[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]New American Standard Bible -[/FONT]
“[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]So the dragon was enraged with the woman, and went off to make war with the rest of her children, who keep the commandments of God and hold to the testimony of Jesus.”[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]The Scriptures - [/FONT]
“[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]And the dragon was enraged with the woman, and he went to fight with the remnant of her seed, those guarding the commands of Yah and possessing the witness of [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהושע [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Messiah."[/FONT]


[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]King James Bible - [/FONT]
“[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.”[/FONT]

 

[Sturuj]

Its not in my vocabulary to memorize the 10 commandments lol.

It was there for us to realized that we need a Saviour.

 

[Grandpa]

The New Testament tells us what the purpose of the commandments are.

They are a schoolmaster to lead us to Christ. Gal 3

They are designed to show us how sinful we really are. Rom 7

They are designed for the ungodly and disobedient. 1 Tim 1

 

[Depleted]

Its not in my vocabulary to memorize the 10 commandments lol.

It was there for us to realized that we need a Saviour.

It's also good for helping us see what God's definition of "good" is.

(How do you know you need saving without knowing what you need saving from?)

 

[MadebyHim]

i believe the purpose of commandments is to show us Kingdom living, and how it is in Gods kingdom. Jesus walks softly but carries a big stick.

Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel. Psalm 2:9

And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father. Revelation 2:27

And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne. Revelation 12:5




And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. Revelation 19:15


Looks like Jesus means business.

 

[Hizikyah]

i believe the purpose of commandments is to show us Kingdom living, and how it is in Gods kingdom. Jesus walks softly but carries a big stick.

Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel. Psalm 2:9

And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father. Revelation 2:27

And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne. Revelation 12:5




And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. Revelation 19:15


Looks like Jesus means business.

Mattithyah 24:12, "And because iniquity will abound, the love of the many will grow cold."


"iniquity" is: #0458 anomia {an-om-ee'-ah} from G0459
Greek Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar)
1) the condition of without law 1a) because ignorant of it1b) because of violating it, 2) contempt and violation of law, iniquity, wickedness


Mattithyah 7:23, "But then I will declare to them; I never knew you. Get away from Me, you who practice iniquity."


“iniquity” is:#0458 anomia {an-om-ee'-ah} from G0459
458-anomia, Strong's Concordance, anomia: lawlessness, Original Word: ἀνομία, ας, ἡ, Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine, Transliteration: anomia, Phonetic Spelling: (an-om-ee'-ah), Short Definition: lawlessness, iniquity, Definition: lawlessness, iniquity, disobedience, sin.

I know satan does not like the Commandments and thinks them as a burden...

 

[20]

What is the Commandments? There is a law The law was our schoolmaster to bring us to the Jesus KJVGalatians3;24-26 24.Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ that we might be justified by faith.25.But after that faith is come,we are no longer under a schoolmaster.26.For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.

 

[FreeNChrist]

Mattithyah 24:12, "And because iniquity will abound, the love of the many will grow cold."


"iniquity" is: #0458 anomia {an-om-ee'-ah} from G0459
Greek Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar)
1) the condition of without law 1a) because ignorant of it1b) because of violating it, 2) contempt and violation of law, iniquity, wickedness


Mattithyah 7:23, "But then I will declare to them; I never knew you. Get away from Me, you who practice iniquity."


“iniquity” is:#0458 anomia {an-om-ee'-ah} from G0459
458-anomia, Strong's Concordance, anomia: lawlessness, Original Word: ἀνομία, ας, ἡ, Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine, Transliteration: anomia, Phonetic Spelling: (an-om-ee'-ah), Short Definition: lawlessness, iniquity, Definition: lawlessness, iniquity, disobedience, sin.

I know satan does not like the Commandments and thinks them as a burden...

You do know that just because Christians are not under the Law, which includes the Ten Commandments, that we are not without law, right?

 

[Hizikyah]

You do know that just because Christians are not under the Law, which includes the Ten Commandments, that we are not without law, right?

In, under, without... wordplay. I know not of any persons walk and also I am not the judge, all I can do is read Scripture, and go from there.

Scripture is beyond clear: "Unless heaven and earth passes away" "the first heaven and the first earth had passed away"

The Scriptures -
“And the dragon was enraged with the woman, and he went to fight with the remnant of her seed, those guarding the commands of Yah and possessing the witness of יהושעMessiah."


King James Bible -
“And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.”


Matt 5:18, "For truly I say to you; Unless heaven and earth passes away, one yodh--the smallest of the letters--will in no way pass from the Law, until all things are perfected."


Revelation 21:1-2, "And I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no more sea. And I, Yahanan, saw the holy city, YHWH Shammah, coming down from YHWH out of heaven, prepared as brides adorned for their husbands. And I heard a great voice out of heaven, saying: Behold, the tabernacle of YHWH is with men, and He will dwell with them, and they will be His people, and YHWH Himself will be with them, and be their Father.”

 

[resurrection33]

Are you saying,we could get Into a lot of trouble here on earth by trying to keep one or more of the ten commandments that would offend society In order to be accepted easier In this world system?

A person would be deceiving themselves by thinking they could keep them anyway and maybe trying to keep one might make society look down on you but before GOD that person would already be condemned anyway.

Only JESUS kept the law and those In CHRIST,members of HIS body do not have to strain to keep the law because JESUS Is the vine providing the nourishment and we are the branches displaying the fruit.

No, I am saying that the Lord gave us commandments to keep us out of trouble right here on earth.