Why i wear a cross

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bearing His Cross and wearing a cross, can be (2) very different things...
 
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Amazing-Grace

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Pity you dont live in the UK. Large sections of the medical community here seem to
be Christian or have a belief in God. I go to a large church which is close to two
major hospitals, the church is full of so many medical staff there is probably enough
to start up a small hospital. Lol
Really? Not so here!
 

Chester

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I don't wear a cross. To Muslims (and many others) the cross represents aggression, bloodshed, and war.

Yet the "offense" of the cross is our salvation!
 
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Miri

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Yeah it's like every third person you bump into is into medicine!
The consultant who runs A & E at one of the hospitals goes to my church.
So do several midwifes (they are supposedly like knats teeth lol) loads and
loads of nurses.

I know a professor of rheumatology, an anesthetist, several doctors, a couple of dentists.
I had a friend who was a GP, she moved abroad a couple of years ago. Another doctor
who specialises in communicable diseases (people don't like sitting near him, can't think why!).

Various other churches in the city have their fair share of medical staff as well.

On occasions when my aunt has been unwell in hospital I always bump into someone
I know from church.
 
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I figured it was because Jesus said that he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me.
John 6:63
King James Version(KJV)

63.)It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
 
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I don't wear a cross. To Muslims (and many others) the cross represents aggression, bloodshed, and war.

Yet the "offense" of the cross is our salvation!
And that is so hypocritical on their part. I heard Dr. James White speak of how Muslims in the South here in the US have mentioned they are in fear much of the time. OK. Maybe instead of pandering to them about that, why not say 'Do you believe there may perhaps be a reason as to why others feel the way they do about Muslims?' and get them to own up (not for their personal behavior perhaps, but the behaviors of other Muslims).

That is keeping it fair and real, as in they are holding all believers in the same light but refuse to be consistent and apply it to themselves when it is apparent the current atrocities being committed by Muslims worldwide. I also don't buy their fear of crosses and what it triggers. That's a lame excuse. Show me Christians out there terrorizing Muslims. Muslims want to hold all others to another standard while not taking responsibility for themselves.
 
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This is part of what happens when Muslim immigrants are allowed to invade other countries under the guise of being oppressed refugees:

https://twitter.com/V_of_Europe/status/832310772164333569

Now, let the naysayers name call, use words like xenophobic all they want, but the reality of what takes place is witnessed worldwide. We need to protect our nation and not allow the MSM to poison our minds with rhetoric and a false reality.
 

Chester

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And that is so hypocritical on their part. I heard Dr. James White speak of how Muslims in the South here in the US have mentioned they are in fear much of the time. OK. Maybe instead of pandering to them about that, why not say 'Do you believe there may perhaps be a reason as to why others feel the way they do about Muslims?' and get them to own up (not for their personal behavior perhaps, but the behaviors of other Muslims).

That is keeping it fair and real, as in they are holding all believers in the same light but refuse to be consistent and apply it to themselves when it is apparent the current atrocities being committed by Muslims worldwide. I also don't buy their fear of crosses and what it triggers. That's a lame excuse. Show me Christians out there terrorizing Muslims. Muslims want to hold all others to another standard while not taking responsibility for themselves.
Sadly, Muslims see Christians as a whole as aggressors for evil and bloodshed. Whether it was the Crusades by the Europeans, the colonial period of control of Muslim countries by the West, or the modern era of wars against Kuwait and Iraq: all of these are seen as a "heathen" army advancing holding the cross in front of them.

We can say they should see their own history and aggression, and that is true, they should.

But the greater question is this: how can I reach across the barriers created by the abuse of the cross, and present the gospel in a real, living way that can change the lives and hearts of Muslims who God loves?

I have close friends currently working with refugees in Iraq (only miles from the front lines of ISIS troops) to physically bring God's love to hurting people.
 
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Sadly, Muslims see Christians as a whole as aggressors for evil and bloodshed. Whether it was the Crusades by the Europeans, the colonial period of control of Muslim countries by the West, or the modern era of wars against Kuwait and Iraq: all of these are seen as a "heathen" army advancing holding the cross in front of them.

We can say they should see their own history and aggression, and that is true, they should.

But the greater question is this: how can I reach across the barriers created by the abuse of the cross, and present the gospel in a real, living way that can change the lives and hearts of Muslims who God loves?

I have close friends currently working with refugees in Iraq (only miles from the front lines of ISIS troops) to physically bring God's love to hurting people.
They're self-righteous, and need to see their sin, not their goodness or excuses and blame placed upon others. As stated they have no reason to overlook their own Muslim atrocities while concentrating on the past. It's just convenient for them to do so, pointing the finger.

As in Christianity their are also many hypocrites among the Muslims. A chaplain I know tells me about a special place over in the Middle East where they go to eat pork, commit adultery, get drunk &c. I'll have to ask him the name of this area the next time we speak.

I'd ask the 'fearful Muslim' why it is that he may have reason to live in fear of Christians. The Crusades excuse just doesn't fly, and they know it. They also know the true answer. :)