The up coming Gay revival what should we do ?

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If the church chooses a radical new inclusion for gays what should it be.

  • They have there own sect (church) so we dont have to change our rules for them

    Votes: 5 29.4%
  • we should allow gay marriage in our church.

    Votes: 2 11.8%
  • we should allow gays into our churches but not gay marriage and give them there own church. call it

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • we should just carry on as we our and do nothing

    Votes: 10 58.8%

  • Total voters
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Mar 7, 2016
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This moment in time i am saddened but not disheartened.

Today are churches spoke of some radical new inclusion is needed for gays but its something that must be discussed as what that radical new inclusion could be ?.

My question to all christians is what do you think all the church fathers of the united kingdome will choose. ?

1 The church allows the gay community have there own sect and call it the G.C.C Gay christian church ?

2 To to allow gay people to fellowship with christians but not allow gay marriage as Jesus said marriage is between a man and a women.

3 To allow gay marriage in our churches. church of england ?
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I dont want to upset gays but how can they ask us to go against what our saviour says ?

I really dont think its fair that gays should change the minds of everybody as we can accept them but we dont have to change our rules to suit them. its totaly unfair to ask a christian to Go against God.


Im posting a poll try to keep this cival if you can and please respect the fact that we all sin.
 
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The reality of this is guys is if the church allows gay marriage and we then speak bad about it we will get called christian extremist radicals
 
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Lot and his family didn't do a thing. They just let God handle it.
 

CS1

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This moment in time i am saddened but not disheartened.

Today are churches spoke of some radical new inclusion is needed for gays but its something that must be discussed as what that radical new inclusion could be ?.

My question to all christians is what do you think all the church fathers of the united kingdome will choose. ?

1 The church allows the gay community have there own sect and call it the G.C.C Gay christian church ?

2 To to allow gay people to fellowship with christians but not allow gay marriage as Jesus said marriage is between a man and a women.

3 To allow gay marriage in our churches. church of england ?
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I dont want to upset gays but how can they ask us to go against what our saviour says ?

I really dont think its fair that gays should change the minds of everybody as we can accept them but we dont have to change our rules to suit them. its totaly unfair to ask a christian to Go against God.


Im posting a poll try to keep this cival if you can and please respect the fact that we all sin.
All I can say it is not Biblical . And the church of England has not represented the Church of the living God for sometime now. as far as what is far for those with a sexual preference has nothing to do with Christians forced to change their minds no. It is gays who are trying to Force God to change HIS word. That will not happen.
 
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The time is coming where those who will worship God will be meeting in secret and in small groups...

Yes I know it is taking place worldwide....but in the U.S. the gov will begin to force inclusion and only one way to deal with it...groups....small in number...in secret!
 
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Lot and his family didn't do a thing. They just let God handle it.
Good answer but theres a lot of heat on this one where being forced into some decision i fear.
 
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wheve allready told them we cant go against the word of Jesus but the gay priest for the gay comunity wont back down. and take no for an answer
 
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wheve allready told them we cant go against the word of Jesus but the gay priest for the gay comunity wont back down. and take no for an answer
Kind of an oxymoron-->Romans 1 states clearly that homosexuality is the straw that breaks the camel's back and sets forth..

a. A mind void of spiritual discernment
b. The final straw before judgment
c. Expect nothing but wrath

The fact that they have no ability to discern the word and are in a position of judgment disqualifies them from ever leading a congregation.......
 
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Kind of an oxymoron-->Romans 1 states clearly that homosexuality is the straw that breaks the camel's back and sets forth..

a. A mind void of spiritual discernment
b. The final straw before judgment
c. Expect nothing but wrath

The fact that they have no ability to discern the word and are in a position of judgment disqualifies them from ever leading a congregation.......
maybe it is discernment in the fact that they haven said no means no in so many words..

This is a delicate matter at hand that needs carfeull deliverance for there final ruling ,, bare in mind we have allready made a ruling that states we cant allow gay marriage in our church.. Dude where being forced into this yet again second rulin or could be more upto now i dont know.. but the point is where getting a lot of heat from parlimentry debates to be forced to discuss the matter further....
 

Dino246

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I had to read the title of the poll as well as the thread title to make sense of this. I just read the poll options at first... none of which are acceptable. If my congregation decided that homosexuality was a valid expression of godly humanity, I would decide that shaking the dust off my shoes on my way out was also a valid expression.
 
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there new logo is im proud to be gay so make me proud to be christian [video=youtube;QjcpaRWGiXs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjcpaRWGiXs[/video]
 
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My god please end this torture

[video=youtube;Vrf0wTteePY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vrf0wTteePY[/video]
 

presidente

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If a denomination accepts sexual perversion, doesn't it make sense to divide from them. Paul said there must be some divisions among you to show who has God's approve.

If you are talking about people who struggle with same sex attraction, they should be allowed in church if they are followers of Christ, have repented, and are not in sin.

But churches should start exercising church discipline on all unrepented fornicators who call themselves brothers, not just those of the homosexual variety. And the church shouldn't tolerate any activism in favor of sexual perversion. Jesus was not pleased when the churches He addressed in the book of Revelation tolerated those who promoted such ideas.
 

jerry2465

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homosexual behavior is sinful

a person must repent of (all) sin to be added to the church.


Therefore a homosexual "married" couple must repent (stop the behavior of homosexuality) agreeing with God that the behavior is sinful and therefore creates separation from God. And then they could be added to the church.
 
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ROSSELLA

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None of the options are ones I would choose. It's horrifying to think that there are churches that don't allow people to worship there just because they are gay or lesbian, but I guess that's the reality for some. For Christians struggling with homosexuality (whether understanding if/why sex with individuals of the same sex is a sin, struggling with temptation or lust, or any struggle one would associate with homosexuality), one of the worst and most unloving things we as their brothers and sisters in Christ can do to them is claim that our struggles with sin are somehow less-sinful than theirs and deny them entry to Church. For nonbelievers who are gay or lesbian, if we bar them from the Church, who is going to show them Jesus?

We all struggle with sin and are all confused about some parts of the Bible. Sometimes members of the same congregation may disagree on certain issues. But that's one of the reasons why all of us, no matter what sins we struggle with, need to come together to worship the Lord and study His word. I think that, unless someone is being disruptive during the service or abusive towards other people at the Church, we shouldn't deny anyone entry to a Church.

As for whether or not pastor's should perform wedding ceremonies for same-sex couples, I think that's something individual pastors need to decide for themselves. If I were a pastor, I don't think I could do so with a clear conscience, but actual pastors may feel differently.

If some Christians who are homosexual want to form their own denomination, I don't think we should stop them. But neither should they have to worship somewhere else. I can understand why they might want to. I don't think straight people will never fully understand what it's like to struggle with homosexuality, so it would probably be beneficial for someone struggling with the issue to talk with someone else who's also going through what he/she is. Many Church-goers have directed a lot of hatred at homosexuals. Some Christians or people claiming to be Christians carry protest signs claiming God hates homosexuals. Others get physically aggressive towards gay people. Some even support trying to torture or rape gay people until they're straight. While God doesn't support those actions and many Christians are repulsed by them, as well, I can totally understand why some gay people might want to stay away from Church because they are afraid they'll be hurt by Christians. However, if some do form their own Church, it needs to be their own choice. The Church as a whole needs to be loving and accept all members of the body of Christ with open arms, not push them away.
 
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Im posting a poll try to keep this cival if you can and please respect the fact that we all sin.
But that is the point for maintaining proper fellowship; we are not to live in sin when we claim to know God and have fellowship with Him.

What's next? The Adulterers church? The Fornicators church? The Masturbaters church? The Pornographers church? The Child Molesters church? The Bigots church? The Seriel Killers church? The manslaughterers church?

Sympathizing and empathizing for homosexuals because they can't help the way they feel and how they think and so we should just give in and let them sin as they please? Then why not for the rest of the works of the flesh?

We have to stop being intimidated by the world when they are oppressing us to accept believers living in sin without any correction nor excommunication when they do not repent.

What do they need Jesus for if they are allowed to live in sin? How can they run that race when they see no need for Jesus to help them lay aside every weight & sin to be that vessel unto honor in His House when sin is no longer sin to them??

Granted, the church cannot stop any other church when it goes astray within, but they can minister outside that church and street witness to them as the Lord leads, but if any church does that, they should tend to their own first because there can be no one sowing to the works of the flesh without repentance in their own church. Not that a church has to be perfect within, but that they should not be ignoring their own members that they know are sowing to the works of the flesh without repentance before engaging in street ministry to that carnal church which again, has to be as the Lord leads.

Any ministry that condemns gays and rebukes which they should not do when they are outside that church should know that when making an appeal, they should be prompting them to call on Jesus Christ for help as their Good Shepherd to deliver them from their sins, and warn them that they are at risk of being left behind at the pre tribulational rapture event until they do repent.

To reason.. to appeal..as the Lord leads... is the only way because rebuking someone is only effective when it involves members within the church that is not thinking this is a serious matter as if it is just your "opinion" wherein the whole church must be called forth when that same sinning believes is purposefully and willfully not listening in defiance to the written words for correction and warning of the consequences thereof whereby excommunication is necessary to lead them to repentance with the message that they will be allowed back in when they do repent by His help and by His grace.

The upcoming gay revival is not a revival but no one can say they are unsaved or not a christian when they profess Him. His disciples can only reprove by the scriptures why they are not abiding in Him as His disciples and that the gays claiming they know God and yet live in sin are reproved by scripture that they are lying when they walk in darkness.

The Book of 1 John would be a good Bible reading for that gay church to lead them into repentance, but prayer is needed because it is a war of principality... not a war against flesh and blood... so don't get in a physcial fight nor a screaming match.

Galatians 5:[SUP]14 [/SUP]For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.[SUP]15 [/SUP]But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.[SUP]16 [/SUP]This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.

The one thing christians that oppose the gay christian church in the UK should realize, that muslims that protest hatred in public in the UK, may find the gay church just cause for a jihad in doing violence to the gay christians that the christian protesters may find themselves as led by the Lord to give up their lives for those gay christians living in sin in the hopes that one day, God will lead them to repentance.

So I am sure it is different in ever areas of the UK, and so let us pray for those brethren that the Lord will minister and will raise up workers for the harvest wherein God may be peradventuring to recover some from the snares of teh devil.

2 Timothy 2:[SUP]18 [/SUP]Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some.[SUP]19 [/SUP]Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.[SUP]20 [/SUP]But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and of silver, but also of wood and of earth; and some to honour, and some to dishonour.[SUP]21 [/SUP]If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master's use, and prepared unto every good work.[SUP]22 [/SUP]Flee also youthful lusts: but follow righteousness, faith, charity, peace, with them that call on the Lord out of a pure heart.[SUP]23 [/SUP]But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do gender strifes.[SUP]24 [/SUP]And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient,[SUP]25 [/SUP]In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;[SUP]26 [/SUP]And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.
 

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This moment in time i am saddened but not disheartened.

Today are churches spoke of some radical new inclusion is needed for gays but its something that must be discussed as what that radical new inclusion could be ?.

My question to all christians is what do you think all the church fathers of the united kingdome will choose. ?

1 The church allows the gay community have there own sect and call it the G.C.C Gay christian church ?

2 To to allow gay people to fellowship with christians but not allow gay marriage as Jesus said marriage is between a man and a women.

3 To allow gay marriage in our churches. church of england ?
#

I dont want to upset gays but how can they ask us to go against what our saviour says ?

I really dont think its fair that gays should change the minds of everybody as we can accept them but we dont have to change our rules to suit them. its totaly unfair to ask a christian to Go against God.


Im posting a poll try to keep this cival if you can and please respect the fact that we all sin.
*****We are to Love gay people but hate the sin------Resist the gay agenda in a firm but loving way...
https://youtu.be/IwWFc6hXYCA
 

chickenkiller

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It should be allowed. If two people love each other enough to get married they should be allowed to do it in their church of choice. All this hatred towards homosexuals is just driving good people away from the word of god.
 

chickenkiller

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So is wearing clothing woven from two different types of threads.