Gay Marriage and the Church

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Amazing-Grace

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Church of England's rejection of gay marriage report welcomed - BBC News

I really don't understand what it is with the homosexual community - In Britain (sorry I'm not sure about the laws elsewhere) in 2005 civil partnerships came into force allowing these to "run alongside" traditional marriage and to me this is fair enough given most gay people are secular and have no desire to follow the Bible BUT they were not content with civil partnership - it had to be called "marriage" even though...frankly it isn't - is it? Then in 2014 they got their way once again forcing us all to accept their unions as marriage. You'd think they'd be satisfied wouldn't you but oh no now they want to force churches to marry them! This surely is one step too far. Churches are Christian and Christians believe the Bible to be God's word and God hates the homosexual act calling it "an abomination". Sure He loves the homosexual but He hates the homosexual act itself and it was God who determined marriage to be between ONE MAN and ONE WOMAN. This being the case then, the gay movement want to deprive Christians of their beliefs in order to accommodate theirs...hmmm. They won't be content until once again they get their way and eventually they will - count on it!

My pastor said he would close down his church rather than perform these "marriages"and that we would go back to having house services in our homes - like the early churches. The church of England (Anglican church) lost their way a long time ago and this is why it is dying in Britain today. You cannot claim to worship God by defying Him. I wonder if wilful defiance is actually worse than total unbelief.

Sorry - I needed to rant on this one!
 

jerry2465

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any "church" that would go through the motions marrying a homosexual couple are not the church at all.


[h=1]Acts 5:27-29English Standard Version (ESV)[/h] [SUP]27 [/SUP]And when they had brought them, they set them before the council. And the high priest questioned them, [SUP]28 [/SUP]saying, “We strictly charged you not to teach in this name, yet here you have filled Jerusalem with your teaching, and you intend to bring this man's blood upon us.” [SUP]29 [/SUP]But Peter and the apostles answered, “We must obey God rather than men.
 
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Church of England's rejection of gay marriage report welcomed - BBC News

I really don't understand what it is with the homosexual community - In Britain (sorry I'm not sure about the laws elsewhere) in 2005 civil partnerships came into force allowing these to "run alongside" traditional marriage and to me this is fair enough given most gay people are secular and have no desire to follow the Bible BUT they were not content with civil partnership - it had to be called "marriage" even though...frankly it isn't - is it? Then in 2014 they got their way once again forcing us all to accept their unions as marriage. You'd think they'd be satisfied wouldn't you but oh no now they want to force churches to marry them! This surely is one step too far. Churches are Christian and Christians believe the Bible to be God's word and God hates the homosexual act calling it "an abomination". Sure He loves the homosexual but He hates the homosexual act itself and it was God who determined marriage to be between ONE MAN and ONE WOMAN. This being the case then, the gay movement want to deprive Christians of their beliefs in order to accommodate theirs...hmmm. They won't be content until once again they get their way and eventually they will - count on it!

My pastor said he would close down his church rather than perform these "marriages"and that we would go back to having house services in our homes - like the early churches. The church of England (Anglican church) lost their way a long time ago and this is why it is dying in Britain today. You cannot claim to worship God by defying Him. I wonder if wilful defiance is actually worse than total unbelief.

Sorry - I needed to rant on this one!
Youve Got to believe some chuches wont sister,, and im hoping my church wont which is english catholic. But im more of a Gods church person myself which is you the church of Gods.

You have every right to express your views and rant ;) about this one.

Your op is very accurate and my feelings exactly. its there pride they want to be accepted and they will fight whoever doesnt accept them.
Its an uprising of pagonism rituals that once inherited our earth,, where by it was ok to be free in body to love who ever as this was seen as good way to share your love.

Its the same for gays there logo is to stand up and be proud to be gay. where not doing anyharm to anyone but they are because there encouraging something that some people may think well if they can stand up and be proud to be gay then im ok to follow my lustful desires. which then in turn influences young people to act out some lust that came from a satanist pagon mindset.
 

Sac49

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I have to be very careful what i say here. Due to this political correctness junk i cannot say exactly what i want.

We live in a world full of sin in every way shape and form. The true Church will not stand for this or participate in this. They will stand against this. Unfortunately the church "of the world" will give in due to monetary reasons. They will not want to "hurt anyones feelings" and will thus give in. They will give in because if they dont they may lose a large moneyary base which they rely upon. When churches do give in we will see a few churches close due to the real church leaving the buildings. We may see the "house" churches forming again as AG mentions in the OP. I myself will not support a "church" that condones this and i know i am not alone. This will seperate the "invisable" church from the "visable" church. We must be ready because this will "bring the hammer down" on those of us who are part of the "invisable" church. We already see a persecution upon us who will not conform to this world and it will only get worse. In the same though, we must stand for our faith in Jesus and stand firm upon Gods Word. We must be the Word of Truth in this fallen world.

Trust in God. Have faith in Jesus Christ and He will see us thru. We are not "of this world". We are strangers in a foreign land. We are only here for a short time.
 
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Amazing-Grace

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I have to be very careful what i say here. Due to this political correctness junk i cannot say exactly what i want.

We live in a world full of sin in every way shape and form. The true Church will not stand for this or participate in this. They will stand against this. Unfortunately the church "of the world" will give in due to monetary reasons. They will not want to "hurt anyones feelings" and will thus give in. They will give in because if they dont they may lose a large moneyary base which they rely upon. When churches do give in we will see a few churches close due to the real church leaving the buildings. We may see the "house" churches forming again as AG mentions in the OP. I myself will not support a "church" that condones this and i know i am not alone. This will seperate the "invisable" church from the "visable" church. We must be ready because this will "bring the hammer down" on those of us who are part of the "invisable" church. We already see a persecution upon us who will not conform to this world and it will only get worse. In the same though, we must stand for our faith in Jesus and stand firm upon Gods Word. We must be the Word of Truth in this fallen world.

Trust in God. Have faith in Jesus Christ and He will see us thru. We are not "of this world". We are strangers in a foreign land. We are only here for a short time.
Why can't you say what you want here? I did. Idon't think political correctness rules on this site and thank The Lord for that!
 

chickenkiller

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Jesus didnt say he was opposed to it so neither am I.
 
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Jesus didnt say he was opposed to it so neither am I.
Jesus validated what marriage is by that first marriage that God would join together as male & female.

Matthew 19:[SUP]4 [/SUP]And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,[SUP]5 [/SUP]And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?

So you might want to change your stance on that issue now, because that is what Jesus would say to homosexuals wanting to get married today.
 

CS1

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Jesus didnt say he was opposed to it so neither am I.
Jesus did not have to say HE was opposed to it because it would not even be accepted. Jesus who had righteous Judgement would never condone it. As this sexual preference goes against the very plan of God. Jesus would never support it but HE would save someone from it " Go and sin n o more".
 

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Jesus didnt say he was opposed to it so neither am I.
****gay marriage is an erosion of the foundations of our culture which will help lead to judgment and confusion----Dr. Michael Brown has a super teaching on the gay agenda-----we love gay people----we oppose the gay agenda...

https://youtu.be/IwWFc6hXYCA
 

88

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Jesus didnt say he was opposed to it so neither am I.
****sorry to give you a long video---but is probably one of the best debates on Gay Lifestyle and the Church----Dr. Michael Brown debates Harry Knox (a strong proponent of the Gay Lifestyle and Church Life)...

https://youtu.be/ZGPaYc0jSDk
 
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Amazing-Grace

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Jesus only ever wanted to do right by His Father and we all know what The Father thought of homosexual activity. This should also be our stance on the matter.
 

Sac49

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Jesus didnt say he was opposed to it so neither am I.
Your profile also states that your not a Christian so i honestly wouldnt expect you to be opposed to gay marriage.

By process of deduction we can see that Jesus is opposed to gay marriage as mentioned in Matthew 19:4-6 where He "defines" marriage. If Jesus "defines" marriage as between a male and female only we can deduce that male/male or female/female is not marriage according to Jesus. Therefore, according to this "definition" of marriage given by Jesus, Jesus is opposed to gay marriage.
 
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Church of England's rejection of gay marriage report welcomed - BBC News

I really don't understand what it is with the homosexual community - In Britain (sorry I'm not sure about the laws elsewhere) in 2005 civil partnerships came into force allowing these to "run alongside" traditional marriage and to me this is fair enough given most gay people are secular and have no desire to follow the Bible BUT they were not content with civil partnership - it had to be called "marriage" even though...frankly it isn't - is it? Then in 2014 they got their way once again forcing us all to accept their unions as marriage. You'd think they'd be satisfied wouldn't you but oh no now they want to force churches to marry them! This surely is one step too far. Churches are Christian and Christians believe the Bible to be God's word and God hates the homosexual act calling it "an abomination". Sure He loves the homosexual but He hates the homosexual act itself and it was God who determined marriage to be between ONE MAN and ONE WOMAN. This being the case then, the gay movement want to deprive Christians of their beliefs in order to accommodate theirs...hmmm. They won't be content until once again they get their way and eventually they will - count on it!

My pastor said he would close down his church rather than perform these "marriages"and that we would go back to having house services in our homes - like the early churches. The church of England (Anglican church) lost their way a long time ago and this is why it is dying in Britain today. You cannot claim to worship God by defying Him. I wonder if wilful defiance is actually worse than total unbelief.

Sorry - I needed to rant on this one!
I'm American. We're at the same spot you're in, although we got here in a slightly different path. (The civil union thing wasn't part of the gay agenda, so they went right for calling it "marriage.") The church I identify with simply stopped doing all marriages because they knew they'd be the first church in our city to be approached by the homosexuals. (It's in the heart of our homosexual community, and forward enough for the homosexuals to both love and hate it. How can they love and hate a church? They love it, because the church ministers by visiting and feeding the sick, and often the sick in that part of the city are sick from AIDS. So they directly ministers to the people homosexuals don't want to see but love. Don't want to see, because what they're doing stares them straight in the face. But love, because they used to be friends. And they hate it for the usual reasons -- they hate God.)

I only see this going one way. God gets his will. The only thing I don't know is the how. Will God get his will with a revival like Nineveh had when Jonah visited? Or is it more like what ultimately happened to Nineveh? (Nineveh literally disappeared from the annuals of history. God's wrath is big time.)

I doubt I will see how this works out in my lifetime, but I do see it getting worse. And that our last election was between two evils, I can't say the Christians are doing a very good job of following God to promote his will either. So, I really don't know where this will leave the world... other than, God gets his will. He will, ultimately, have himself a people who will worship and adore him eternally as he deserves.
 
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Oh Yes, Yeshua will have HIs way, no matter how hard those that continue to 'kick',
for they only 'kick' against the pricks, exacerbating their own burdens...
 
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Church of England's rejection of gay marriage report welcomed - BBC News

I really don't understand what it is with the homosexual community - In Britain (sorry I'm not sure about the laws elsewhere) in 2005 civil partnerships came into force allowing these to "run alongside" traditional marriage and to me this is fair enough given most gay people are secular and have no desire to follow the Bible BUT they were not content with civil partnership - it had to be called "marriage" even though...frankly it isn't - is it? Then in 2014 they got their way once again forcing us all to accept their unions as marriage. You'd think they'd be satisfied wouldn't you but oh no now they want to force churches to marry them! This surely is one step too far. Churches are Christian and Christians believe the Bible to be God's word and God hates the homosexual act calling it "an abomination". Sure He loves the homosexual but He hates the homosexual act itself and it was God who determined marriage to be between ONE MAN and ONE WOMAN. This being the case then, the gay movement want to deprive Christians of their beliefs in order to accommodate theirs...hmmm. They won't be content until once again they get their way and eventually they will - count on it!

My pastor said he would close down his church rather than perform these "marriages"and that we would go back to having house services in our homes - like the early churches. The church of England (Anglican church) lost their way a long time ago and this is why it is dying in Britain today. You cannot claim to worship God by defying Him. I wonder if wilful defiance is actually worse than total unbelief.

Sorry - I needed to rant on this one!
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