When is it right to fight back ? Never or something else

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When is it right to fight back verbal or physical

  • It is never right

    Votes: 3 10.7%
  • when the need justifies the actions

    Votes: 6 21.4%
  • when anger is rightoues anger

    Votes: 1 3.6%
  • When God calls us to intervene

    Votes: 12 42.9%
  • When rebuke is needed,,

    Votes: 2 7.1%
  • It is only right to fight back verbaly not physicaly.

    Votes: 4 14.3%

  • Total voters
    28
Mar 7, 2016
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Proverbs 13:10 (New English Bible) "A brainless fool causes strife by his presumption."

. Ecclesiastes 3:8 "There is a time for war and a time for peace."



 

MadebyHim

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Some times our spirits are at war sometimes at peace. Its hard turning the other cheek, mostly because of pride. But believe me its worth it, and it won't hurt especially if you didn't provoke it. It will hurt them more than you, and not a physical hurt but an emotional one. the only reason i can say this, is because i've witnessed it more than once. Rarely will someone just come up and pop ya one, without being provoked.



Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloak also. Matthew 5:38-40

Now there is a difference between someone messing with me, and somebody else being attacked. If someone else, such as children, seniors, defenseless, or anybody actually, but thats a different story as far as i'm concerned.


 
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Some times our spirits are at war sometimes at peace. Its hard turning the other cheek, mostly because of pride. But believe me its worth it, and it won't hurt especially if you didn't provoke it. It will hurt them more than you, and not a physical hurt but an emotional one. the only reason i can say this, is because i've witnessed it more than once. Rarely will someone just come up and pop ya one, without being provoked.



Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloak also. Matthew 5:38-40

Now there is a difference between someone messing with me, and somebody else being attacked. If someone else, such as children, seniors, defenseless, or anybody actually, but thats a different story as far as i'm concerned.


I dont think it is a diffrent story i think your right to say its time to fight back when defenceless people are being oppressed.

Who are the defenceless in here tho.

I would say where all defenceless in here when we get attacked in here because the people who are doing the attacking are hiding behind a computer which makes us defenceless.. You cant fight that which is invisable make us all defenceless.
 
Dec 9, 2011
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Proverbs 13:10 (New English Bible) "A brainless fool causes strife by his presumption."

. Ecclesiastes 3:8 "There is a time for war and a time for peace."



GOD looks at the heart.
 

Chester

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May 23, 2016
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#5
An easy answer: we never fight back. We never answer evil for evil. The one who lives by the sword will die by the sword.

Of course, if you want to give 'fight' a positive definition, you can change the answer. I interpreted the poll as when/if is it OK to get angry and fight back with words or with my fists. I do not think that righteous anger 'fights back'. It overcomes evil with good.
 

MadebyHim

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I dont think it is a diffrent story i think your right to say its time to fight back when defenceless people are being oppressed.

Who are the defenceless in here tho.

I would say where all defenceless in here when we get attacked in here because the people who are doing the attacking are hiding behind a computer which makes us defenceless.. You cant fight that which is invisable make us all defenceless.


True Thats why God says the battle belongs to Him, because we could never fight it on our own. Michael wouldn"t even try battling satan on his own over the body of Moses. So if Michael asked God to help fight his battle then i know i should.
 
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FreeNChrist

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Ecclesiastes 3:1-8

There is a time for everything,
and a season for every activity under the heavens:
a time to be born and a time to die,
a time to plant and a time to uproot,
a time to kill and a time to heal,
a time to tear down and a time to build,
a time to weep and a time to laugh,
a time to mourn and a time to dance,
a time to scatter stones and a time to gather them,
a time to embrace and a time to refrain from embracing,
a time to search and a time to give up,
a time to keep and a time to throw away,
a time to tear and a time to mend,
a time to be silent and a time to speak,
a time to love and a time to hate,
a time for war and a time for peace.


"Fight the good fight of the faith. Take hold of the eternal life to which you were called when you made your good confession in the presence of many witnesses.” 1 Timothy 6:12

"I have fought the good fight, I have finished the race, I have kept the faith.” 2 Timothy 4:7
 
Dec 2, 2016
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At eighteen in the military, I begin to read the bible every night and I decided to practice what I perceived as the "turn the other cheek" policy. Let me just say, that what I was doing did not work because the other guys lost respect for me because I would not stand up for myself. I changed my policy to be one that tried to stay away from trouble but never back down from another man who challenged me...it worked much better.
 
Nov 26, 2012
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I think every situation is different and this is why we are supposed to be living by the Spirit for discernment. Sometimes when we think we are being attacked verbally, it is righteous rebuke. I was told a long time ago, always make your words sweet, in case you have to eat them. If someone attacks you physically, defend yourself, no brainer. It doesn't mean kick the snot out of them, just stop them from the assault by whatever means needed, up to death. If violence can be avoided it should be, if not, win! I think joining the military voluntarily is a slippery slope. Often what the government calls "defending liberty" is actually enforcing tyranny.
 
Mar 7, 2016
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I think every situation is different and this is why we are supposed to be living by the Spirit for discernment. Sometimes when we think we are being attacked verbally, it is righteous rebuke. I was told a long time ago, always make your words sweet, in case you have to eat them. If someone attacks you physically, defend yourself, no brainer. It doesn't mean kick the snot out of them, just stop them from the assault by whatever means needed, up to death. If violence can be avoided it should be, if not, win! I think joining the military voluntarily is a slippery slope. Often what the government calls "defending liberty" is actually enforcing tyranny.
Lol now theres an expression i must remember.. (kick the snot out of him chuckle chuckle).

Now being a man i would have loved to have battled in Gods army that defeated the sh*tites and the crapolaites :D
I can safely say for one for better word that to use the expression here lets kick the snot out of them would be quite accpetable yes.

David and golliath what was this war about it was a bout defending and protecting the innocent.. where thees people going to be rebuked noooo nooo no

This is no diffrent to today you can not defend your self if your not trained to fight. Self defence is the only time i absolutely believe fighting is needed..
 
Nov 26, 2012
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At eighteen in the military, I begin to read the bible every night and I decided to practice what I perceived as the "turn the other cheek" policy. Let me just say, that what I was doing did not work because the other guys lost respect for me because I would not stand up for myself. I changed my policy to be one that tried to stay away from trouble but never back down from another man who challenged me...it worked much better.
Taking one piece of scripture and devoting an unshakable manifesto for it isn't what we are called to do. Jesus didn't take a bunch of rules and replace them with another bunch of rules. The point He was getting across was to love your enemies, by avoiding vengeance. The reason we seek retribution is because we exalt ourselves. When a father disciplines a child the child is not expected to retaliate, because he is the subordinate. At work, if the boss yells at you, you either accept it or find a new job. You don't tear back into that individual because he/she is the boss and you are subordinate. Teacher/student, same. Christ washed the disciples feet because he was showing them that they were not greater than anybody else. We show love and well being for others when we willingly put their interests before our own. If we love our spouse no deed is too great. If we do not love our spouse, even the smallest task seems like the biggest burden. The task doesn't change our perspective does. Who we view as more important is on what we base our demeanor. There are metaphysical properties to love.

If someone smites you on the cheek, it is a sign of dominance not an attack. It will stop there unless you retaliate. In the same passage you are also instructed to do tasks for others willingly and lend money without concern. The point is to set our focus that we are not better than anybody else and it is this mentality that makes us loving and identifies us as Christians. What it does not suggest is that our bodies are to be abused undefended. If that was the case, why was an apostle carrying a sword?

Being in the military it is your job to be "dominant" to defend the weak. You can't do this while being submissive. I think Christians in the military should be walk the closest with God because they have such a thin line to tread.
 
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Proverbs 13:10 (New English Bible) "A brainless fool causes strife by his presumption."

. Ecclesiastes 3:8 "There is a time for war and a time for peace."
B, C, D, and E.
 
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An easy answer: we never fight back. We never answer evil for evil. The one who lives by the sword will die by the sword.

Of course, if you want to give 'fight' a positive definition, you can change the answer. I interpreted the poll as when/if is it OK to get angry and fight back with words or with my fists. I do not think that righteous anger 'fights back'. It overcomes evil with good.
So, if someone attacks your family or friends, you won't fight back? If someone comes at you with a knife, you won't fight back? If a country subjugates women and children into slaves, you won't fight back? If radical extremists start taking over your country, you won't fight back?

As I see it, the Bible is charged with God telling his people to completely annihilate other nations and he clearly told us to put on our battle gear, but you won't fight back?

Remind me not to walk around Philly with you. I'd be in more trouble than you'd be, because at least I'd try to protect your 6. (Not very good at fighting, but I'd try. lol)
 
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At eighteen in the military, I begin to read the bible every night and I decided to practice what I perceived as the "turn the other cheek" policy. Let me just say, that what I was doing did not work because the other guys lost respect for me because I would not stand up for myself. I changed my policy to be one that tried to stay away from trouble but never back down from another man who challenged me...it worked much better.
Biblically speaking, you are aware there are only two cheeks, right? If someone slaps you on one, turn the cheek. Slaps you on the other? Defend!
 
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now thats whay you call a good answer :) top marks i commend your wisdom depleted and i love you avitar lol
 
Feb 28, 2016
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Christians are schooled by the Holy Spirit in many ways, sometimes it seems
as though every day is a new-challenge to be schooled in'...:):eek:
 

Chester

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Biblically speaking, you are aware there are only two cheeks, right? If someone slaps you on one, turn the cheek. Slaps you on the other? Defend!

Do you have a Scripture for that one? lol!
 
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Well...I have heard it said that we humans actually have "4 cheeks".....:rolleyes:
 
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Do you have a Scripture for that one? lol!
Well, I once brought it up to four cheeks, but I'm not sure most Christians accept what we sit on as two cheeks. lol
 
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Well...I have heard it said that we humans actually have "4 cheeks".....:rolleyes:
Whew! Glad I said "most." lol

The story behind that one. I can't remember who was President. I think Clinton. But, at one point in time, the terrorists were attacking us all around the world. They bombed two embassies, a military ship, and something else. (I think it was the first time someone tried to destroy the Trade Center by setting off a bomb in the parking garage. The bomb went off. The Trade Center didn't tumble.)

My up-in-arms chant was naming each attack as a "cheek" and saying we ran out of all four cheeks. It was time to retaliate.