THE PHARISEES COMPARED TO THE PHARISEES OPERATING TODAY

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popeye

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acts 26;5 Which knew me from the beginning, if they would testify, that after the most straitest sect of our religion I lived a Pharisee.
9 I verily thought with myself, that I ought to do many things contrary to the name of Jesus of Nazareth.
10 Which thing I also did in Jerusalem: and many of the saints did I shut up in prison, having received authority from the chief priests; and when they were put to death, I gave my voice against them.
11 And I punished them oft in every synagogue, and compelled them to blaspheme; and being exceedingly mad against them, I persecuted them even unto strange cities.

Paul,who later got freed from that mean stalking spirit,went on to become one of the greatest apostles.

Good news indeed for those modern day pharisees tangled up in despising the power of Jesus and the Holy Spirit.

Note that that spirit had him stalking believers and seeking their demise.

We see so much of that today,all the while,they, the modern pharisees ,in their delusion think charismatics are the very pit of satan.
 
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acts 26;5 Which knew me from the beginning, if they would testify, that after the most straitest sect of our religion I lived a Pharisee.
9 I verily thought with myself, that I ought to do many things contrary to the name of Jesus of Nazareth.
10 Which thing I also did in Jerusalem: and many of the saints did I shut up in prison, having received authority from the chief priests; and when they were put to death, I gave my voice against them.
11 And I punished them oft in every synagogue, and compelled them to blaspheme; and being exceedingly mad against them, I persecuted them even unto strange cities.

Paul,who later got freed from that mean stalking spirit,went on to become one of the greatest apostles.

Good news indeed for those modern day pharisees tangled up in despising the power of Jesus and the Holy Spirit.

Note that that spirit had him stalking believers and seeking their demise.

We see so much of that today,all the while,they, the modern pharisees ,in their delusion think charismatics are the very pit of satan.
Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
 

Hizikyah

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[FONT=TimesNewRomanPSMT, serif]Mark 7:5-9, "Then the Pharisees and scribes asked Him; Why do Your disciples not walk according to the tradition of the elders, but eat bread with unwashed hands? He answered, and said to them: Well has Isayah prophesied of you hypocrites--as it is written: This people honors Me with their lips, but their heart is far from Me. But in vain do they worship Me, teaching as doctrine the commandments of men. For laying aside the Law of YHWH, you hold the tradition of men! Then He said to them: How well you reject the Law of YHWH, so that you may keep your own tradition!"

Pharisees kept man made tradition, not Scriptual truth and Instructions.
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popeye

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Mat 23;13 [FONT=&quot]But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.

Interesting. This is a modern day dynamic. They do indeed seek to shut men from operating in the gifts and power of the Holy Spirit.[/FONT]
 
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popeye

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Mark 7:5-9, "Then the Pharisees and scribes asked Him; Why do Your disciples not walk according to the tradition of the elders, but eat bread with unwashed hands? He answered, and said to them: Well has Isayah prophesied of you hypocrites--as it is written: This people honors Me with their lips, but their heart is far from Me. But in vain do they worship Me, teaching as doctrine the commandments of men. For laying aside the Law of YHWH, you hold the tradition of men! Then He said to them: How well you reject the Law of YHWH, so that you may keep your own tradition!"

Pharisees kept man made tradition, not Scriptual truth and Instructions.
This is what I am talking about.

You need to re read that. Jesus says they honor me with their lips,but are corrupt in heart.

Paul was a pharisee. He said of himself "according to the law,blameless.

Your post strikes at the heart of defending the wrong dynamic.

(they,the pharisees can not see their own folly.That is the core of their sickness)
 

Hizikyah

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Mark 7:5-9, "Then the Pharisees and scribes asked Him; Why do Your disciples not walk according to the tradition of the elders, but eat bread with unwashed hands? He answered, and said to them: Well has Isayah prophesied of you hypocrites--as it is written: This people honors Me with their lips, but their heart is far from Me. But in vain do they worship Me, teaching as doctrine the commandments of men. For laying aside the Law of YHWH, you hold the tradition of men! Then He said to them: How well you reject the Law of YHWH, so that you may keep your own tradition!"

Pharisees kept man made
tradition, not Scriptual truth and Instructions.
This is what I am talking about.

You need to re read that. Jesus says they honor me with their lips,but are corrupt in heart.

Paul was a pharisee. He said of himself "according to the law,blameless.

Your post strikes at the heart of defending the wrong dynamic.

(they,the pharisees can not see their own folly.That is the core of their sickness)
Mark 7:5-9, "Then the Pharisees and scribes asked Him; Why do Your disciples not walk according to the tradition of the elders, but eat bread with unwashed hands? He answered, and said to them: Well has Isayah prophesied of you hypocrites--as it is written: This people honors Me with their lips, but their heart is far from Me. But in vain do they worship Me, teaching as doctrine the commandments of men. For laying aside the Law of YHWH, you hold the tradition of men! Then He said to them: How well you reject the Law of YHWH, so that you may keep your own tradition!"

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Ezekiyl 36:26-28, "A new heart; mind, will I also give you, and a new spirit will I put within you; and I will take away the heart of stone out of your flesh, and will give you a heart of flesh. I will put My Spirit within you, and cause you to walk in My statutes, and you will keep My judgments, and do them. And you will dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers; and you will be My people, and I will be your Father."[/FONT]



[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Yeremyah 31:33, "For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israyl: After those days, says YHWH: I will put My Law (Torah) in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts, and I will be their Strength, and they will be My people."[/FONT]



[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Hebrews 10:16, "This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, says YHWH: I will put My Law into their hearts, and in their minds I will write them."[/FONT]



Mat 15:2-3, "Why do Your disciples transgress the traditions of the elders? For they do not wash their hands when they eat. But He answered, and said to them: And why do you transgress the Laws of YHWH by your traditions?"


Mat 23, “Then יהושע spoke to the crowds and to His taught ones, saying, “The scribes and the Pharisees sit on the seat of Mosheh. “Therefore, whatever they say to you to guard, guard and do. But do not do according to their works, for they say, and do not do. “For they bind heavy burdens, hard to bear, and lay them on men’s shoulders, but with their finger they do not wish to move them.”


New International Version
Mt 23:2-3, "The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat. So you must be careful to do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach."


King James Bible
Mt 23:2-3, "Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:
All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not."


Shem Tob's Hebrew Mattithyah
Mattithyah 23:2-3, "The Pharisees and Sages sit upon the seat of Mosheh. Therefore, all that he (Mosheh) says to you, diligently do, but according to thier takanot (reforms) and thier ma'asim (precedents) do not do, because they talk (Torah) but they do not do."


Takanot: rabbinical reforms or enactments that (falsely) "change or add" to YHWH's Law.


Ma'asim: acts or deeds that serve as precedents for rabbinic law.


Both Takanot and Ma'asim are laws of the Talmud. The Savior said this to the Pharisees;


Matt 23:33, "Serpents! Brood of vipers! How will you escape the sentence of Gehenna?"


He EXPOSED the Pharisees and their false religious system EVERY CHANCE HE GOT. He did not sit by and let people lie, you need to re-read the words of the Messiah.


Mattithyah 15:7-9, "Hypocrites! Well did Isayah(29:13-14)* prophesy of you, saying: These people draw near to Me with their mouth and honor Me with their lips, but have removed their hearts far from Me. But in vain they do worship Me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men."


*Isayah 29:13-14, "Therefore YHWH said: Because these people draw near to Me with their mouths and honor Me with their lips, but have removed their hearts far from Me, and their reverence to Me is taught by the precept of men; Therefore, behold, I will proceed to do a marvelous work among this people; a marvelous work and a wonder; for the wisdom of their wise men will perish, and the understanding of their prudent men, will be hid."


Mat 23, cont. “And they do all their works to be seen by men, and they make their t’fillen wide and lengthen the tzitziyot of their garments, and they love the best place at feasts, and the best seats in the congregations, and the greetings in the market-places, and to be called by men, ‘Rabbi, Rabbi.’ “But you, do not be called ‘Rabbi,’ for One is your Master, the Messiah, and you are all brothers. “And do not call anyone on earth your father, for One is your Father, He who is in the heavens. “Neither be called leaders, for One is your Leader, the Messiah. “But the greatest among you shall be your servant. “And whoever exalts himself shall be humbled, and whoever humbles himself shall be exalted. “But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! Because you shut up the reign of the heavens before men, for you do not go in, nor do you allow those who are entering to go in. “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! Because you eat up widows’ houses, and for a show make long prayers. Because of this you shall receive greater judgment. “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! Because you go about the land and the sea to win one convert, and when he is won, you make him a son of Gehenna twofold more than yourselves. “Woe to you, blind guides, who say, ‘Whoever swears by the Dwelling Place, it does not matter, but whoever swears by the gold of the Dwelling Place, is bound by oath.’ “Fools and blind! For which is greater, the gold or the Dwelling Place that sets the gold apart? “And, ‘Whoever swears by the altar, it does not matter, but whoever swears by the gift that is on it, is bound by oath.’ “Fools and blind! For which is greater, the gift or the altar that sets the gift apart? “He, then, who swears by the altar, swears by it and by all that is upon it. “And he who swears by the Dwelling Place, swears by it and by Him who is dwelling in it. “And he who swears by the heaven, swears by the throne of Elohim and by Him who is sitting upon it. “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! Because you tithe the mint and the anise and the cumin, and have neglected the weightier matters of the Torah: the right-ruling and the compassion and the belief. These need to have been done, without neglecting the others. “Blind guides – straining out a gnat and swallowing a camel! “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! Because you clean the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are filled with plunder and unrighteousness. “Blind Pharisee, first clean the inside of the cup and dish, so that the outside of them becomes clean too. “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! Because you are like whitewashed tombs which outwardly indeed look well, but inside are filled with dead men’s bones and all uncleanness. “So you too outwardly indeed appear righteous to men, but inside you are filled with hypocrisy and lawlessness. “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! Because you build the tombs of the prophets and decorate the monuments of the righteous, and say, ‘If we had lived in the days of our fathers, we would not have taken part with them in the blood of the prophets.’ “Thus you bear witness against yourselves that you are sons of those who did murder the prophets – and you fill up the measure of your fathers! “Serpents, brood of adders! How would you escape the judgment of Gehenna? “Because of this, see, I send you prophets, and wise men, and scholars of Scripture. Some of them you shall kill and impale, and some of them you shall flog in your congregations and persecute from city to city, so that on you should come all the righteous blood shed on the earth, from the blood of righteous Heḇel to the blood of Zeḵaryah, son of Bereḵyah, whom you murdered between the Dwelling Place and the altar. “Truly, I say to you, all this shall come upon this generation. “Yerushalayim, Yerushalayim, killing the prophets and stoning those who are sent to her! How often I wished to gather your children together, the way a hen gathers her chickens under her wings, but you would not! “See! Your house is left to you laid waste, for I say to you, from now on you shall by no means see Me, until you say, ‘Blessed is He who is coming in the Name of יהוה !”
 
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Ariel82

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Mat 23;13 [FONT=&quot]But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.

Interesting. This is a modern day dynamic. They do indeed seek to shut men from operating in the gifts and power of the Holy Spirit.[/FONT]
Perhaps they are operating in their spiritual gift of discernment?

You have to admit some pastors are in for the money, power and hype though they claim to be working for God. Their God is not the one of the Bible but Mammon.

The Bible warns against pastors who,pretend to be holy but are not. Just like Satan pretends to be an Angel of Light.
 
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popeye

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Perhaps they are operating in their spiritual gift of discernment?

You have to admit some pastors are in for the money, power and hype though they claim to be working for God. Their God is not the one of the Bible but Mammon.

The Bible warns against pastors who,pretend to be holy but are not. Just like Satan pretends to be an Angel of Light.
Agreed.I will add that any broad brushing is wrong.
I could read other posts to include all charismatics,including myself.(not saying you do that)

There is something wrong with theses modern pharisees. They seek not a shred of unity. They are ON A MISSION,to destroy a segment of the body of Christ.


Perhaps they are operating in their spiritual gift of discernment?
We all see various abuses. That is not discernment.
We see it in the horror of King David's scandal.

Would our fine and wonderful discernment seek the destruction of himself and the Jewish religion?
 
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popeye

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Mark 7:5-9, "Then the Pharisees and scribes asked Him; Why do Your disciples not walk according to the tradition of the elders, but eat bread with unwashed hands? He answered, and said to them: Well has Isayah prophesied of you hypocrites--as it is written: This people honors Me with their lips, but their heart is far from Me. But in vain do they worship Me, teaching as doctrine the commandments of men. For laying aside the Law of YHWH, you hold the tradition of men! Then He said to them: How well you reject the Law of YHWH, so that you may keep your own tradition!"

Ezekiyl 36:26-28, "A new heart; mind, will I also give you, and a new spirit will I put within you; and I will take away the heart of stone out of your flesh, and will give you a heart of flesh. I will put My Spirit within you, and cause you to walk in My statutes, and you will keep My judgments, and do them. And you will dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers; and you will be My people, and I will be your Father."



Yeremyah 31:33, "For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israyl: After those days, says YHWH: I will put My Law (Torah) in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts, and I will be their Strength, and they will be My people."



Hebrews 10:16, "This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, says YHWH: I will put My Law into their hearts, and in their minds I will write them."



Mat 15:2-3, "Why do Your disciples transgress the traditions of the elders? For they do not wash their hands when they eat. But He answered, and said to them: And why do you transgress the Laws of YHWH by your traditions?"


Mat 23, “Then יהושע spoke to the crowds and to His taught ones, saying, “The scribes and the Pharisees sit on the seat of Mosheh. “Therefore, whatever they say to you to guard, guard and do. But do not do according to their works, for they say, and do not do. “For they bind heavy burdens, hard to bear, and lay them on men’s shoulders, but with their finger they do not wish to move them.”


New International Version
Mt 23:2-3, "The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat. So you must be careful to do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach."


King James Bible
Mt 23:2-3, "Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:
All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not."


Shem Tob's Hebrew Mattithyah
Mattithyah 23:2-3, "The Pharisees and Sages sit upon the seat of Mosheh. Therefore, all that he (Mosheh) says to you, diligently do, but according to thier takanot (reforms) and thier ma'asim (precedents) do not do, because they talk (Torah) but they do not do."


Takanot: rabbinical reforms or enactments that (falsely) "change or add" to YHWH's Law.


Ma'asim: acts or deeds that serve as precedents for rabbinic law.


Both Takanot and Ma'asim are laws of the Talmud. The Savior said this to the Pharisees;


Matt 23:33, "Serpents! Brood of vipers! How will you escape the sentence of Gehenna?"


He EXPOSED the Pharisees and their false religious system EVERY CHANCE HE GOT. He did not sit by and let people lie, you need to re-read the words of the Messiah.


Mattithyah 15:7-9, "Hypocrites! Well did Isayah(29:13-14)* prophesy of you, saying: These people draw near to Me with their mouth and honor Me with their lips, but have removed their hearts far from Me. But in vain they do worship Me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men."


*Isayah 29:13-14, "Therefore YHWH said: Because these people draw near to Me with their mouths and honor Me with their lips, but have removed their hearts far from Me, and their reverence to Me is taught by the precept of men; Therefore, behold, I will proceed to do a marvelous work among this people; a marvelous work and a wonder; for the wisdom of their wise men will perish, and the understanding of their prudent men, will be hid."


Mat 23, cont. “And they do all their works to be seen by men, and they make their t’fillen wide and lengthen the tzitziyot of their garments, and they love the best place at feasts, and the best seats in the congregations, and the greetings in the market-places, and to be called by men, ‘Rabbi, Rabbi.’ “But you, do not be called ‘Rabbi,’ for One is your Master, the Messiah, and you are all brothers. “And do not call anyone on earth your father, for One is your Father, He who is in the heavens. “Neither be called leaders, for One is your Leader, the Messiah. “But the greatest among you shall be your servant. “And whoever exalts himself shall be humbled, and whoever humbles himself shall be exalted. “But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! Because you shut up the reign of the heavens before men, for you do not go in, nor do you allow those who are entering to go in. “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! Because you eat up widows’ houses, and for a show make long prayers. Because of this you shall receive greater judgment. “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! Because you go about the land and the sea to win one convert, and when he is won, you make him a son of Gehenna twofold more than yourselves. “Woe to you, blind guides, who say, ‘Whoever swears by the Dwelling Place, it does not matter, but whoever swears by the gold of the Dwelling Place, is bound by oath.’ “Fools and blind! For which is greater, the gold or the Dwelling Place that sets the gold apart? “And, ‘Whoever swears by the altar, it does not matter, but whoever swears by the gift that is on it, is bound by oath.’ “Fools and blind! For which is greater, the gift or the altar that sets the gift apart? “He, then, who swears by the altar, swears by it and by all that is upon it. “And he who swears by the Dwelling Place, swears by it and by Him who is dwelling in it. “And he who swears by the heaven, swears by the throne of Elohim and by Him who is sitting upon it. “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! Because you tithe the mint and the anise and the cumin, and have neglected the weightier matters of the Torah: the right-ruling and the compassion and the belief. These need to have been done, without neglecting the others. “Blind guides – straining out a gnat and swallowing a camel! “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! Because you clean the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are filled with plunder and unrighteousness. “Blind Pharisee, first clean the inside of the cup and dish, so that the outside of them becomes clean too. “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! Because you are like whitewashed tombs which outwardly indeed look well, but inside are filled with dead men’s bones and all uncleanness. “So you too outwardly indeed appear righteous to men, but inside you are filled with hypocrisy and lawlessness. “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! Because you build the tombs of the prophets and decorate the monuments of the righteous, and say, ‘If we had lived in the days of our fathers, we would not have taken part with them in the blood of the prophets.’ “Thus you bear witness against yourselves that you are sons of those who did murder the prophets – and you fill up the measure of your fathers! “Serpents, brood of adders! How would you escape the judgment of Gehenna? “Because of this, see, I send you prophets, and wise men, and scholars of Scripture. Some of them you shall kill and impale, and some of them you shall flog in your congregations and persecute from city to city, so that on you should come all the righteous blood shed on the earth, from the blood of righteous Heḇel to the blood of Zeḵaryah, son of Bereḵyah, whom you murdered between the Dwelling Place and the altar. “Truly, I say to you, all this shall come upon this generation. “Yerushalayim, Yerushalayim, killing the prophets and stoning those who are sent to her! How often I wished to gather your children together, the way a hen gathers her chickens under her wings, but you would not! “See! Your house is left to you laid waste, for I say to you, from now on you shall by no means see Me, until you say, ‘Blessed is He who is coming in the Name of יהוה !”
Yeah,Jesus didn't have much good to say about them.

They stalked,plotted and arrested Jesus with one aim. To destroy. Their hearts were wicked and they never had the eyesight to see the savior standing inches in front of them.

It was his word,his person,and his power that offended them.

They were offended. They,like you guys,were fear driven.
 
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popeye

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Comical how they,like the pharisees of old,can not see themselves.
 
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Ariel82

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Agreed.I will add that any broad brushing is wrong.
I could read other posts to include all charismatics,including myself.(not saying you do that)

There is something wrong with theses modern pharisees. They seek not a shred of unity. They are ON A MISSION,to destroy a segment of the body of Christ.




We all see various abuses. That is not discernment.
We see it in the horror of King David's scandal.

Would our fine and wonderful discernment seek the destruction of himself and the Jewish religion?
Still not sure who it what you are referring to with Modern day Pharisees. However, Jesus did destroy the Jewish religion. He replaced the old Covenant with the new. Replaced the old man with the born again believer guided by the Holy Spirit.
 
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Comical how they,like the pharisees of old,can not see themselves.
Boy you pegged that one.....too bad you missed it entirely....

Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

What is funny is you apply this thread to those who oppose those who push the Spirit over JESUS.....Let us examine it for a minute...The Pharisee of old...

1. Believed in a self righteous working for salvation
2. Rejected the rebuke and admonition that came from Jesus and those who preached the truth
3. Believed one could lose their eternal standing before God after faith
4. Believed in a UBER religious show of faith OUTWARDLY
5. Practiced hyper religion(ism) and put their own practice above the BIBLE (see the above bolded verse)
6. Like to make an OPEN show of their ABUNDANT faith
7. Pushed Works
8. ETC

THOSE who make a SHOW and PUSH of the SPIRIT over JESUS are not being led of the very SPIRT they PUSH and make a MOCKERY of.....

Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
 
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popeye

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Bottom line,these modern day Pharisees are fear driven. That is why their top discussions are on salvation,and what they perceive as " threats" to a fragile walk that they work out mentally.
 
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popeye

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They can not be taken higher. They wash the car over and over,but are clueless to what's under the hood.
 
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popeye

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Like the Pharisees of old,they claim the high ground as experts on God and his law,but the savior,and intimacy,and his power they not only deny,but attack anyone darring to see his kingdom built or confessing his testimony.
 
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This thread should be named the NEW HOLY SPIRIT FILLED ACCUSATORY CHRISMATIC THAT HATES PHARISEES

Have you read this verse before.....it tells us that the Holy Spirit will point to JESUS an his words and the words of the men inspired to write the bible....not itself!

Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

Yo do realize that the Spirit you claim to be led of will not lead you to make all the accusations you have made right?
 
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popeye

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Still not sure who it what you are referring to with Modern day Pharisees. However, Jesus did destroy the Jewish religion. He replaced the old Covenant with the new. Replaced the old man with the born again believer guided by the Holy Spirit.
It was that group that transposed satan onto the work of the Holy Spirit.

They did so with great zeal and resolve. They were driven,and obsessed.

We see that in vivid display on this forum.

That is not only what or who I am addressing,but exposing their wickedness as did Jesus.

Face it,in both dimensions,they cared not for things such as intimacy,worship in the spirit,or the signs and wonders.

Vividly on display.

What were they met with? The testimony of those that were true to Him. His intimate followers.
 
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popeye

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Again,bottom line,they are fear centered
 
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popeye

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I would probably be one also,had I not come in during the charasmatic renewal.

I remember my mother had encountered the Holy laughter at her church.

I went to see it thinking it was people try to get attention.
My attitude was bad.
When it,the Holy Laughter broke out,it was awesome. The Lord was present so powerful.

What you guys don't know,or realize,is that many were being delivered and set free while manifesting in laughter.
I saw my pastor set free in one of those meetings.
 
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I would probably be one also,had I not come in during the charasmatic renewal.

I remember my mother had encountered the Holy laughter at her church.

I went to see it thinking it was people try to get attention.
My attitude was bad.
When it,the Holy Laughter broke out,it was awesome. The Lord was present so powerful.

What you guys don't know,or realize,is that many were being delivered and set free while manifesting in laughter.
I saw my pastor set free in one of those meetings.
Give two biblical examples of this in the N.T. in context!