Genesis and the Three Heavens

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Bladerunner

Bladerunner

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buddyt said:
Did you know that there was an earth age before this one? That the earth is really millions of years old? There was a time that we all lived on this earth in our spiritual bodies and everyone was happy. The Bible is very clear on this Three Earth and Three Heaven Ages. Same Earth Same Heaven. Just the ages. Genesis 1:1-2 Jeremiah 4:18 and Peter 3 all support this.
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Buddyt....I hate to break it to you but the Bible does not say anything about three earths and three Heaven AGES

I don't know whether you are trying to be funny or really actually believe what you are saying... Either way, I think you should look yourself in the mirror tonight and ask yourself this question.????.

"Do I REALLY believe that Jesus Christ Died according to scripture, he was buried and raised from the dead according to scriptures."

Why that question,,,because it is obvious to at least myself, your disrespect for the Bible and God is very pronounced. Something a Real Christian would/should never do. Of, course this is my opinion.
 
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posthuman

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Bladerunner said:
How do they KNOW?????
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see my previous reply. inference from observational evidence. and i think you're over-stating the scientific understanding of epistemology, though you're not using the vocabulary to make that plain.
Bladerunner said:
The Universe keeps changing so we are told...Here lately, there is a Ghost (hidden) sun that is a sister to our own sun...Is there any limit to the gullibility of average person.
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i think you are probably referring to youtube conspiracy videos here, not to actual astronomy . . . ?
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What about the Moon. Did we ever get there???????My grandfather at that time told me, it never happened.
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ipso facto, the substance of your own argument, and the same thing you are claiming to reject, though what you are actually rejecting is observation.


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However, when it comes to NASA and Astronomy; we, my friend(s) are being lead down a primrose path to what they say our future will be like. It just so happens it is exactly opposite of what the Bible and God teaches.
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astronomy predicts that the earth will be destroyed by fire. the scripture predicts that the earth will be destroyed by fire.
where do you see this supposed direct contradiction . . ?
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To answer at least one question of yours, I do not know where Lava comes from.
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um, thanks, but that question was actually rhetorical. i know you don't know about such things. there are a lot of things i feel safe in assuming based on the statements you make.


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Now answer a question for me..... Have you seen personally the planets we are told exist...No Not Pictures....
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i've answered this for you at least 3 times in the past, here goes a fourth time:

yes. right after i read this post, i walked outside and identified three planets. actually four; i see the earth too.
i've seen the rings of saturn and some of her moons with my very own eyes through telescopes. also banding on jupiter, and some of her moons too. i've seen mare on mars through telescopes with my own eyes too. dozens of times, more. i've been watching the sky for 35 years, as the earth rotates and revolves, seeing the same constellations tracking in their predictable, regular, annual rhythm as my ring-side seat courses around the star God chose to make our home. i've been watching the planets for 35 years follow their own courses, night to night, week to week, month to month, year by year. i will keep looking up, watching and waiting, until Jah splits open the fabric of His creation and rolls it away like a scroll, stooping down to judge the quick and the dead & to complete the work He began before He began time.

but you - do you never look at the sky or something?
you don't believe in the sky therefore there is no sky?


when are you going to start taking yes for an answer, dude?
you don't become invisible just because you close your eyes, you know. the truth doesn't go away.

and none of this contradicts the scripture.
if you think the reality of the world around you, the heavens above and the earth below, contradicts the Bible, it's not reality that's wrong. it's your understanding.
 
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astronomy predicts that the earth will be destroyed by fire.

the scripture predicts that the earth will be destroyed by fire.
where do you see this supposed direct contradiction . . ?
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I see a direct contradiction in the time frame.

science says-The Sun today is roughly halfway through the most stable part of its life.
It has not changed dramatically for over four billion[a] years, and will remain fairly
stable for more than five billion more. However, after hydrogen fusion in its core
has stopped, the Sun will undergo severe changes, both internally and externally.

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Christ’s rule on Earth will follow this present age of human misrule and senseless
warfare and suffering. It specifically prophesied to be a thousand years. Rev 20:4.

But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord
as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Since the last “day” of God’s plan is 1,000 years, then it logically follows
that the preceding six “days” would amount to 6,000 years—a total of 7,000 years.
 
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sure and we can make gold in a lab. just put bismuth at the end of a particle accelerator and throw carbon and neon at it.

it's ridiculously not cost-efficient though. but it's been done.
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I guess I should have been more technical about it, yes science has made gold and today alchemist can make it from bacteria though none of that man made gold is worth anything not for money or electronics because it's not 100% pure gold.

Pure 100% Gold in which God produced in a supernova of a star. the man made crap is 99.9% pure 24K gold. that .1% makes a world of difference in price of it and useable for conductors etc.
 
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OOPS.....can you tell me HOW we know the earth's core is a "big ball of Lava" when the deepest hole that has ever be dug was only 8 miles deep.

Here again you are listening to Scientist and letting them control you. Yet, Do you read and Listen to the Word of GOD?
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Well I can't tell you about something you don't believe in, it will never sink in. but since you ask science uses cat scan technology along with X-Ray equipment on board satellites and earth base stations.

And you put down science though here in the forums you are using computer science.. lol
 
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Bladerunner

First let me say I don't know the reason for you being here I can't speak for you. But as for me I am here to get other people's understanding and opinions of the Bible. So I'm not here to tell you how stupid you are or how misled you are. I believe the Bible and what it says. Some of witch you must know a little or be taught from the manuscripts.

Do you not see the Earth being Millions of years old. Science has proven this time and time again.
We were all here during the First Age. All until Satan rebelled against God. As mentioned in Revelation (read 3-9) Satan was able and convinced 1/3 of Gods children to follow him. There are many books and sites on the web that can explain this better tan I can. Check this out.Three World Ages Bible Study
 
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Bladerunner

First let me say I don't know the reason for you being here I can't speak for you. But as for me I am here to get other people's understanding and opinions of the Bible. So I'm not here to tell you how stupid you are or how misled you are. I believe the Bible and what it says. Some of witch you must know a little or be taught from the manuscripts.

Do you not see the Earth being Millions of years old. Science has proven this time and time again.
We were all here during the First Age. All until Satan rebelled against God. As mentioned in Revelation (read 3-9) Satan was able and convinced 1/3 of Gods children to follow him. There are many books and sites on the web that can explain this better tan I can. Check this out.Three World Ages Bible Study
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No,I dont believe the earth is millions of years old,nor do I believe science has proven that it is. I believe in science,just not science attached to political motivations and the naturalist "religion" that denies Gods existence.
 
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Speaking to anyone who does not believe the Earth is millions of years old. If you do a little research you'll conclude Science and the Bible line up Hand in Hand. It's easily proven.
 
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kaylagrl said:
No,I dont believe the earth is millions of years old,nor do I believe science has proven that it is. I believe in science,just not science attached to political motivations and the naturalist "religion" that denies Gods existence.
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Do you believe God created everything in ONE breath or six days?
 
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buddyt said:
Speaking to anyone who does not believe the Earth is millions of years old. If you do a little research you'll conclude Science and the Bible line up Hand in Hand. It's easily proven.
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I use a unwritten scale of (a million years is like a minute and a minute is like a millions years)
 
posthuman

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BeyondET said:
I guess I should have been more technical about it, yes science has made gold and today alchemist can make it from bacteria though none of that man made gold is worth anything not for money or electronics because it's not 100% pure gold.

Pure 100% Gold in which God produced in a supernova of a star. the man made crap is 99.9% pure 24K gold. that .1% makes a world of difference in price of it and useable for conductors etc.
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The gold made in a particle collider is 100%. But it's totally not worth making.

Technically the bacteria you reference don't make gold; they draw gold ions out of seawater ((also lead)) and produce 99.9% gold in a stable form.

That's actually plenty pure enough for use as money or in electronics. Only highly specialized equipment needs completely pure gold - most of the stuff that comes out of mines isn't 100% pure when it gets put to use, and I actually doubt anything is in circulation that was drawn out by bacteria or certainly not from a bismuth/neon reaction in a lab.
 
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The gold made in a particle collider is 100%. But it's totally not worth making.

Technically the bacteria you reference don't make gold; they draw gold ions out of seawater ((also lead)) and produce 99.9% gold in a stable form.

That's actually plenty pure enough for use as money or in electronics. Only highly specialized equipment needs completely pure gold - most of the stuff that comes out of mines isn't 100% pure when it gets put to use, and I actually doubt anything is in circulation that was drawn out by bacteria or certainly not from a bismuth/neon reaction in a lab.
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Well we do have nuke generators and stuff, so it maybe possible in a particular collider though I'd have to see that research do you have any source info on that.

The bacteria they are using at Michigan state university is Cupriavidus metallidurans which is found around metals.

If that unpure gold is being used were is it now want company is producing electronics using it. And how much on the metals market is it being sold I haven't seen any market that is selling it?
 
posthuman

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prove-all said:
But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord
as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Since the last “day” of God’s plan is 1,000 years, then it logically follows
that the preceding six “days” would amount to 6,000 years—a total of 7,000 years.
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How come no one ever uses the rest of the stanza in the psalm Peter quoted, that a day with God is also like a watch in the night, just 3 or 4 hours, when they make their prophetic calculations of the day?

:rolleyes:

Btw the death throes of our sun is not the only way to burn the earth. A nearby nova pointed 'just so' may actually be more likely, and impossible to predict, among other things.
 
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Do you mean this one that was accidentally discovered and that discovering was only 89% pure gold

Maintenance teams working within the Large Hadron Collider (LHC), the world’s largest and most powerful particle accelerator, uncovered a coating of what appeared to be yellow paint last week, on the outermost concrete skin of the 27-kilometer long structure.
It has since been confirmed that this yellow paint is in fact a thin covering of gold, platinum and rare-earth elements.
Dr Avril Blageur
Dr Blaguer – LHC Lead CERN
LHC project head Dr Avril Blageur announced to her team this morning that a “10-micron (0.01mm) hazing of gold, platinum, scandium and yttrium has been found around the outermost protective barrier” adding “we are perplexed as to how this hazing has occurred and are currently establishing a timeframe for it’s deposit… by investigating past maintenance records for these structural elements”
The internal email continued “Maintenance teams were conducting a final sweep of the four particle detectors – ATLAS, CMS, ALICE and LHCb following the system failure… during the SUSY operation. As part of the sweep they lifted elements of the protective extra-dermal lead blanket and on discovering the golden coating, immediately alerted senior staff.”
“We have since lifted the blankets at 1km intervals around the outside and inside perimeters of the ring and found similar deposits, with 10 micron deposits to the outer and 2 micron deposits to the inner surfaces of the LHC.”
“Assuming a similar distribution around the 27km torus, deposits could amount to 4 tonnes, although removal of the metals would be impractical and not cost-effective”
The announcement was made to team members and leaked to the Swiss tabloid Blick by an unnamed source. The source alleged the coating was 89% pure gold, 10% platinum and 1% other elements, making the estimated 4 tonnes of the yellow metal the largest single discovery this decade.
 
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BeyondET

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Err I mean Gold. typo
 
bafa

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I think you peeps should do some assessment:cool:lol
 
Bladerunner

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buddyt said:
Speaking to anyone who does not believe the Earth is millions of years old. If you do a little research you'll conclude Science and the Bible line up Hand in Hand. It's easily proven.
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how are you calculating the millions of years (or what method).
 
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