****See the Beauty of Jesus...(check out this video---transformational)
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***Thing Which Produce Fruit ***Things Which Hinder Fruit
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***you are correct---we can't produce things on our own---and rushing things is not the answer---there is a balance in all things-----my pastor took me preaching after been saved a short time and it changed my life---made me grow up---it might not be for everyone, but many Christians have been resting in the Lord so long they are snoring...
i agree with this, can you answer me this question? If a person claims to be a Christian having Jesus in them, yet that person is producing no fruit at all, Is that Christ's fault or the persons fault? i mean if the teaching of today says and teaches that the good works comes from Jesus. and a person claims to be SAVED, yet their are no works, no fruits at all, whose fault is that? Is it Jesus fault because HE is suppose to be causing that person to have good fruits? So if that person is NOT producing good fruits, that only leaves two conclusions, either Jesus is at fault because Jesus is Failing to produce good fruits in that person, OR Jesus is NOT in that person, and therefore no fruits, even though they claim to be SAVED. Which do you think it is?
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DiscipleDave
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Scriptures interprets Scriptures.
1Jn 3:6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
So, if a person knowingly and willingly obeys satan and not Jesus how are they abiding in Christ? To Abide in Christ, is to DO what He says, to obey what He commands, to Live and Do what He says for us to do. Which can be summed up by this: Love One Another. If you do that, you are abiding in Him, because He is LOVE. If you are LOVING one another, you are abiding in Him. If you fail to Love One another, you fail to abide in Him. If you Fail to Love One another, you sin. Why? Because Jesus Commands us to Love One Another, if you fail to do what He commands us to do, then you commit sin.
Joh_15:7 If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you.
Do you ask and receive not, maybe it is because you are NOT Loving One Another.
Joh_15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.
Those who keep His Commandments are they that abide in HIM. What are His commandments. Scriptures interprets Scriptures:
1Jn 3:22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight. 23 And this is his commandment, That we should 1) believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, AND 2) Love One Another, as he gave us commandment. 24 And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.
Scriptures plainly teach us what it means to abide in Him. Does not matter what i think it mean, or what you think it means, or what they think it means. Scriptures plainly teaches what it means.
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DiscipleDave
1Jn 3:6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
So, if a person knowingly and willingly obeys satan and not Jesus how are they abiding in Christ? To Abide in Christ, is to DO what He says, to obey what He commands, to Live and Do what He says for us to do. Which can be summed up by this: Love One Another. If you do that, you are abiding in Him, because He is LOVE. If you are LOVING one another, you are abiding in Him. If you fail to Love One another, you fail to abide in Him. If you Fail to Love One another, you sin. Why? Because Jesus Commands us to Love One Another, if you fail to do what He commands us to do, then you commit sin.
Joh_15:7 If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you.
Do you ask and receive not, maybe it is because you are NOT Loving One Another.
Joh_15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.
Those who keep His Commandments are they that abide in HIM. What are His commandments. Scriptures interprets Scriptures:
1Jn 3:22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight. 23 And this is his commandment, That we should 1) believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, AND 2) Love One Another, as he gave us commandment. 24 And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.
Scriptures plainly teach us what it means to abide in Him. Does not matter what i think it mean, or what you think it means, or what they think it means. Scriptures plainly teaches what it means.
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††† In His Holy and Precious Name, Jesus Christ †††
DiscipleDave
****we have to look into John 15 to get an idea of "abiding"---the purpose of "abiding" is to bear fruit (John 15:5)----while we are "abiding" God purges us (cuts away junk) to bring forth more fruit (John 15:2)----if we are not "abiding" we wither and can be cast into the fire (John 15:6)----if we "abide" in Christ and His Word "abides" in us we can ask in prayer and receive (John 15:7)----if we are disciples ( by taking up our cross and following Him---Matthew 16:24) we bear fruit and Glorify God (John 15:8)---"If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love." (John 15:10)----and this last 3 Scriptures kind of sum up being fruitful, abiding, and being a disciple---but Christ even goes further to say we can go from being saved, to being a disciple, to being a servant (love slave--doulous), to being a friend----John 15:15-17 "Henceforth I call you not servants; for the servant knoweth not what his lord doeth: but I have called you friends; for all things that I have heard of my Father I have made known unto you. Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you. These things I command you, that ye love one another." -------------and I'm kind of guessing He commanded we love one another because if we went by our feelings and not by command we would not as likely do it...
Yes it does. 1 John 1:8 - "If we say that we have no sin, (PRESENT TENSE) we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10 If we say that we have not sinned, (PAST TENSE) we make him a liar, and his word is not in us."
Sinneth not (ouc amartanei). Linear present (linear menwn, keeps on abiding) active indicative of amartanw, "does not keep on sinning." Present (linear) active articular participle "the one who keeps on sinning" (lives a life of sin, not mere occasional acts of sin as amarthsa, aorist active participle, would mean). Sinless perfection is not taught here.
So, anything short of sinless perfection to you equates to obeying satan and not abiding in Christ?
The word abide means to remain, not to depart, continue to be present. It doesn't mean sinless, perfect obedience 100% of the time. To do what Christ says and obey His commands is the fruit of abiding in Him.
1 John 3:14 - We know that we have passed from death to life, because we love the brethren. He who does not love his brother abides in death. 1 John 3:10 - In this the children of God and the children of the devil are manifest: Whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor is he who does not love his brother.
Amen!
Or you ask and do not receive, because you ask with wrong motives, so that you may spend it on your pleasures (James 4:3).
The Greek word for "keep" is "tereo" and means - 5083 tēréō (from tēros, "a guard") – properly, maintain (preserve); (figuratively) spiritually guard (watch), keep intact. It does not mean sinless, perfect obedience 100% of the time. We are not sinless/flawless/absolutely perfect 100% of the time.
1 John 2:3 - Now by this we know that we know Him, if (demonstrative evidence) we keep His commandments. 4 He who says, "I know Him," and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
This is the demonstrative evidence that we do abide in Christ. Deceiving ourselves by saying we have NO sin (present tense) is not the demonstrative evidence (1 John 1:8) that the truth is in us.
Yes, Scripture plainly teaches what it means to abide in Him ( properly, maintain (preserve); (figuratively) spiritually guard (watch), keep intact and Scripture also shows us the demonstrative evidence of those who abide in Christ, but Scripture does not teach sinless perfection.
Sinneth not (ouc amartanei). Linear present (linear menwn, keeps on abiding) active indicative of amartanw, "does not keep on sinning." Present (linear) active articular participle "the one who keeps on sinning" (lives a life of sin, not mere occasional acts of sin as amarthsa, aorist active participle, would mean). Sinless perfection is not taught here.
So, anything short of sinless perfection to you equates to obeying satan and not abiding in Christ?
The word abide means to remain, not to depart, continue to be present. It doesn't mean sinless, perfect obedience 100% of the time. To do what Christ says and obey His commands is the fruit of abiding in Him.
1 John 3:14 - We know that we have passed from death to life, because we love the brethren. He who does not love his brother abides in death. 1 John 3:10 - In this the children of God and the children of the devil are manifest: Whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor is he who does not love his brother.
Amen!
Or you ask and do not receive, because you ask with wrong motives, so that you may spend it on your pleasures (James 4:3).
The Greek word for "keep" is "tereo" and means - 5083 tēréō (from tēros, "a guard") – properly, maintain (preserve); (figuratively) spiritually guard (watch), keep intact. It does not mean sinless, perfect obedience 100% of the time. We are not sinless/flawless/absolutely perfect 100% of the time.
1 John 2:3 - Now by this we know that we know Him, if (demonstrative evidence) we keep His commandments. 4 He who says, "I know Him," and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
This is the demonstrative evidence that we do abide in Christ. Deceiving ourselves by saying we have NO sin (present tense) is not the demonstrative evidence (1 John 1:8) that the truth is in us.
Yes, Scripture plainly teaches what it means to abide in Him ( properly, maintain (preserve); (figuratively) spiritually guard (watch), keep intact and Scripture also shows us the demonstrative evidence of those who abide in Christ, but Scripture does not teach sinless perfection.