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    Well the bible implies the last known giants from the ungodly line of fallen angels were Goliath and his brothers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by samuel23 View Post
    Folks I realize that this is not a critical issue, however I hear so much about the giants in the bible being the offspring of angels and humans...THE BIBLE DOES NOT SAY THAT. There were two declarations made, one was that there were giants in the earth in those days...STOP... the other was that when the sons of God(angels) took the daughters of men that they bore men of great ability. Two things that it is describing, one is giants, who were before and after the flood, the other is a hybrid between an angel and a human that only appeared before the flood. Think please, for a five foot six inch ,130 pound woman, to produce a ten foot eight hundred pound man, that would mean that her husband had to be fifteen feet tall and weigh fourteen hundred pounds. It would be like trying to cross a male mastiff with a female wiener dog. First the sex act is not gonna happen and even if it did the wiener dog would die way before birth time...same with a human woman trying to have a sixty pound baby...not going to happen. The offspring of women and angels were normal in height and weight but built with incredible strength and speed and toughness. The giants are kind of a mystery since they were before and after the flood and I have never been able to trace their ancestors with any success.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JosephsDreams View Post
    Well the bible implies the last known giants from the ungodly line of fallen angels were Goliath and his brothers.
    Implies. Noted.

    Goliath was what, 6'9"?

    The Canaanite giants...

    I think we are talking about aspects of God's creation that we cannot truly understand when we talk about human genetics and his plan, but if the bible is correct then there is much more about the way God chose to structure sentient beings here on earth then it directly conveys to us.

    There are different kinds and they are part of creation. How it got to be that way... *shrug*
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    Six foot nine?
    More like 9 feet tall.
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    Quote Originally Posted by samuel23 View Post
    First the sex act is not gonna happen...
    Says who?

    Not Scripture...

    Genesis 6:4
    "There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown"


    Just because you are a non-believer doesn't mean the Word of God is incorrect.

    Going after 'Strange Flesh' is there as well...

    Jude 1:7
    "Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire"


    I've even seen evidence of Genetic Engineering in Scripture.

    We are in the Days of Noah.

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    I have also done quite a bit of study on human biology and unique physical aspects.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JustWhoIAm View Post
    Implies. Noted.

    Goliath was what, 6'9"?

    The Canaanite giants...

    I think we are talking about aspects of God's creation that we cannot truly understand when we talk about human genetics and his plan, but if the bible is correct then there is much more about the way God chose to structure sentient beings here on earth then it directly conveys to us.

    There are different kinds and they are part of creation. How it got to be that way... *shrug*
    ****stuff that happened back then was serious enough (polluted bloodlines) to bring about the flood----few people really know how ugly The Great Tribulation will be...
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    Quote Originally Posted by JosephsDreams View Post
    Six foot nine?
    More like 9 feet tall.
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    [for me anyway] the "giants" are defined in the verse (Genesis 6:4), which are mighty men and men of renown, nothing more: in today's talk we might refer to mighty men as macho-ism and men of renown as CEO's or politicians or other celebrity types who are influential. But the core point we ought to not forget is that all of them are but flesh and nothing more. It is a good thing if we learn not to think above that which is written, that we avoid exaggeration and over-estimation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lastofall View Post
    [for me anyway] the "giants" are defined in the verse (Genesis 6:4), which are mighty men and men of renown, nothing more: in today's talk we might refer to mighty men as macho-ism and men of renown as CEO's or politicians or other celebrity types who are influential. But the core point we ought to not forget is that all of them are but flesh and nothing more. It is a good thing if we learn not to think above that which is written, that we avoid exaggeration and over-estimation.
    No. No. That the flood happened has been proven.

    Science is a tool we have at our disposal that helps us to understand the mind of God. Remember that.

    Logic is involved. See above
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    Quote Originally Posted by samuel23 View Post
    Folks I realize that this is not a critical issue, however I hear so much about the giants in the bible being the offspring of angels and humans...THE BIBLE DOES NOT SAY THAT. There were two declarations made, one was that there were giants in the earth in those days...STOP... the other was that when the sons of God(angels) took the daughters of men that they bore men of great ability. Two things that it is describing, one is giants, who were before and after the flood, the other is a hybrid between an angel and a human that only appeared before the flood. Think please, for a five foot six inch ,130 pound woman, to produce a ten foot eight hundred pound man, that would mean that her husband had to be fifteen feet tall and weigh fourteen hundred pounds. It would be like trying to cross a male mastiff with a female wiener dog. First the sex act is not gonna happen and even if it did the wiener dog would die way before birth time...same with a human woman trying to have a sixty pound baby...not going to happen. The offspring of women and angels were normal in height and weight but built with incredible strength and speed and toughness. The giants are kind of a mystery since they were before and after the flood and I have never been able to trace their ancestors with any success.
    You need to read the prophesies of Enoch, because giants are exactly what the results were as a result of the angels lying with women. Enoch says that these angels were 300 cubits in height. That would be over 400 ft. tall. It states that for all of the labor men, they could not satisfy the hunger of the offspring of these giants. These angels who took wives also taught the dividing of roots and trees, sorcery, magic arts, astronomy,how to make weapons of war, the beautifying of the eyebrows, paints and dyes and many other things that mankind was not supposed to know. And so the earth was corrupted. These are the angels that are mentioned in 2 Pet.2:4 and Jude 6, who were put into Tartarus in chains of darkness until judgment. This defilement by the angels and their teachings was the reason for the flood.
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    Giants...
    This is a bit of a blog I did on this subject...

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    Quote Originally Posted by samuel23 View Post
    Folks I realize that this is not a critical issue, however I hear so much about the giants in the bible being the offspring of angels and humans...THE BIBLE DOES NOT SAY THAT. There were two declarations made, one was that there were giants in the earth in those days...STOP... the other was that when the sons of God(angels) took the daughters of men that they bore men of great ability. Two things that it is describing, one is giants, who were before and after the flood, the other is a hybrid between an angel and a human that only appeared before the flood. Think please, for a five foot six inch ,130 pound woman, to produce a ten foot eight hundred pound man, that would mean that her husband had to be fifteen feet tall and weigh fourteen hundred pounds. It would be like trying to cross a male mastiff with a female wiener dog. First the sex act is not gonna happen and even if it did the wiener dog would die way before birth time...same with a human woman trying to have a sixty pound baby...not going to happen. The offspring of women and angels were normal in height and weight but built with incredible strength and speed and toughness. The giants are kind of a mystery since they were before and after the flood and I have never been able to trace their ancestors with any success.
    The Giants where after the flood also.. And they where the offspring of the fallen angels and human woman..

    Genesis 6:KJV. {4} There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown."

    Goliath came also After the flood and was slain by David in the promised land.. So giants where again in existence after the flood.. They where called sons of Anak which is where we get the word Anakim and as a point of trivial interest thats where we get the name Anakin Skywalker from the movie Starwars..

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    Adam was called the son of God in the NT BECAUSE HE WAS CREATED not born of another man. The use of the words, sons of God ,in that context tells us plainly that they were a creation of God and did not come through man. I explained this before, only two men BY HEREDITY were called the son of God, Adam and Jesus. Now, about the giants, I do not believe that they came from angels because the bible does not really say that. So my question is, where did the giants come from? I have tried to trace their ancestors but never got very far. Apparently these men(their women are never spoke of) were around ten feet or more and of massive build. The last of them seems to have been destroyed around the time of David. Were they from the race of Adam or were they something else? Any thoughts?

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    Ahwa, A little common sense please, so an angel taller then a football field impregnates a normal size woman and she gives birth to a 20 foot baby...ha,ha, heh, O this is rich. Not making fun of you brother but do you really believe that ?

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    Adstar...you should have wrote the entire verse for context, to mean what people have tried to make it mean it would have to be written, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men they bare children who became giants. The bible does not say that, it speaks of two distinct peoples, the giants and the offspring of angels. This is backed up by the fact that the giants came back after the flood and we are even given some ancestors of these giants and the ancestor was NOT AN ANGEL. We know that the giants after the flood came from other giants NOT FROM AN ANGEL. I think that is called checkmate.

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    A couple of points to be made that is overlooked or rejected....

    a. The reference in Jude is SEXUAL in scope (going after strange flesh)
    b. The reference to being married or not in heaven has NO reference to anything sexual (this is assumed)
    c. There is a heavenly form and an earthy physical form
    d. The contradiction is between the SONS of GOD and the Daughters of ADAM (this assumes all women were lost)
    e. Noah was UPRIGHT...the word can carry the idea of GENETICALLY PURE
    f. The GIANTS were wiped out in the flood and then 5 races again appear during the time of David
    G. Enoch speaks to this (the book is referenced and DIRECTLY QUOTED BY MEN INSPIRED in the BIBLE)who canonized the bible?
    H. The giants of the bible were warriors not tall men needing canes to stand or walk
    I. They are compared to being as tall as cedars and men are grasshoppers in their sight
    J. The skeletal evidence (concealed and covered up) points to creatures from 1 to 4 stories tall
    K. As it was in the days of Noah (reports of Giants are again starting to pour in)

    Reports of a special operations group killing a 15 foot tall red haired giant in Kandahar with 6 fingers and 6 toes and two rows of teeth that moved extremely swift and engaged the unit....took hundred of 5.56 and 7.65 rounds and a few .50 rounds to bring it down....watched the interviews with three different witnesses including the pilot of a C-130 that flew the remains to a base in Germany......have a personal friend that was in the command and control center (A MARINE 30 plus years service) that would not confirm nor deny the report....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzfyB15tl3I&t=11

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magenta View Post
    Scriptures explicitly state that creatures reproduce after their own kind. That should rule out any thinking along the lines of humans having the offspring of angels. The sons of God are of the line of Seth, God worshipers. The daughters of men are of the line of Cain, pagans. Idolatry is always the end result when people who believe in the One True God marry those who don't.
    Hi magenta

    I know that christians refer to the sons of God as the line Of seth.. but how can they produce Giants ? that question is answerable with many answers it seems..

    I just wonder when demon possesion has taken place what happens ?.

    Ill try to explain my theory as we know from the bible it states in revelation that those held captive (The people whos souls had became ensnared by spirits.. (demon possession) ,,,,,,,, where set free.

    Jesus spoke of demon possesion.. theres no denying it occurs..

    The question i ask the room is what happens when a demon possessed person mates with another person.

    Does part of the spiritual D.N.A from the demon possessed person get passed down. ?

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    The question is can the children of the devil be set free.. (the battle continues

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sac49 View Post
    I am sorry but the question seems to have shifted here. Are you still wondering about the "giants" mentioned in the Bible or has it switched to the meaning of "sons of God"? Before i try to discuss the OP i would like to know which one you want to discuss. Not trying to be rude just an honest question.
    The "sons of God" are not necessarily from the Most High God. The fallen angels, or archons, are the "elohim" (LORD God) they possessed much power and creative ability just as the True Creator does. And also 'Mankind' has this great creative power to fashion worlds from the "matter" which is in "chaos" drown here on earth and in the "elements of the heavens". So it may well be that the "sons of God" are the product of "fallen mankind. Who are created in the "image" of the 'elohim'. Not Jesus
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