GIANTS

[wsblind]

In that quote Jude and Peter are reminding them of Gods judgement in that he too judged the angels that rebelled 1500 years before the flood.....It is quite the stretch of the imagination to link that to Niphilim angelic beings...The gest of Gen 6 is being misunderstood. Peter tells us this in 2 Peter 3 that God ONCE before judged the world because of SIN, and He will do it again, but He is longsuffering and desires that all men come to repentance and not suffer the same judgement as did those before of ancient times when the world stood in and out of the water..............Me thinks you been watching too much Hollywierd maybe...

We have no clue of the date God judged the angels. Please give chapter and verse.

These fallen angels are already in eternal bonds under darkness. The angels who didn't go after strange flesh(Woman In gen 6) are still operating to this day. Their eternal bonds and execution of Gods judgement comes after the 1000 year reign.

 

[willybob]

We have no clue of the date God judged the angels. Please give chapter and verse.

These fallen angels are already in eternal bonds under darkness. The angels who didn't go after strange flesh(Woman In gen 6) are still operating to this day. Their eternal bonds and execution of Gods judgement comes after the 1000 year reign.

The bible is quite clear that the angels were judged at the fall of Satan...Many clues to this in the text, one being Paul said their has been no temptation overtaken you that was and has been uncommon to man..."ie" Cain had the same common temptations as all of procreation.....Dig deep in the text, and stay away of comic book fantasy....

 

[wsblind]

The bible is quite clear that the angels were judged at the fall of Satan...Many clues to this in the text, one being Paul said their has been no temptation overtaken you that was and has been uncommon to man..."ie" Cain had the same common temptations as all of procreation.....Dig deep in the text, and stay away of comic book fantasy....

Yeah, one has to dig deep to see the truth of the angelic conflict and how satan tried to corrupt mans seed so the Christ could not be true humanity.

A surface rendering of the bible, like you have ,will never see the deeper truth's.

 

[JIMBO43]

Yeah, one has to dig deep to see the truth of the angelic conflict and how satan tried to corrupt mans seed so the Christ could not be true humanity.

A surface rendering of the bible, like you have ,will never see the deeper truth's.

Now theres a thought..Maybe satan knew all of Gods plans befor he fell,,, and Just maybe the reason why he Knew Gods plans was because ?????


1 he was maybe the higest ranking angel befor he fell ?

2 if your a mormon you would say all angels are sons and daughters of God and satan was maybe Gods first born son so because of that fact satan was somehow once part of his throne knowing all...

3 All this is nonsence... In the beginning God came over the darkness ? meaning the darkness was allready there and always has been ?? hmm i wonder

 

[JIMBO43]

The bible is quite clear that the angels were judged at the fall of Satan...Many clues to this in the text, one being Paul said their has been no temptation overtaken you that was and has been uncommon to man..."ie" Cain had the same common temptations as all of procreation.....Dig deep in the text, and stay away of comic book fantasy....

Ok well if they where Judges then what the bl**dy nora is satan still doing walking about.....na more to it than that

 

[JIMBO43]

Interesting note, the Aleppo Codex on which much of the Leningrad codes was corrected does have the giant at 9'9", so also were the later versions of the Septuagint when aligned with the Masoretic. If you make Goliath just some guy not much over 6 foot then you destroy the story because the context makes Goliath someone whose physical appearance terrified an entire army.

nerly Every christian pastor i know on tv says goliath was 9 feet or more...i really dont get how you could say it was less... but then meg does have a point when she says " if someone 7 foot tall was standing in front of you he could seem like 9 foot 6".

 

[sevenseas]

The bible is quite clear that the angels were judged at the fall of Satan...Many clues to this in the text, one being Paul said their has been no temptation overtaken you that was and has been uncommon to man..."ie" Cain had the same common temptations as all of procreation.....Dig deep in the text, and stay away of comic book fantasy....

I would really like to hear your explanation for how this verse you semi quoted,

No temptation has overtaken you but such as is common to man; and God is faithful, who will not allow you to be tempted beyond what you are able, but with the temptation will provide the way of escape also, so that you will be able to endure it. I Cor 10:13

fits in with your timeline for the fallen angels being judged

you keep mentioning many clues but so far no evidence of what you say or the clues

 

[dcontroversal]

nerly Every christian pastor i know on tv says goliath was 9 feet or more...i really dont get how you could say it was less... but then meg does have a point when she says " if someone 7 foot tall was standing in front of you he could seem like 9 foot 6".

Because if you google it the main sites try and peddle this story.....a cubit is 16 to 18 inches....6 and a span...do the math....his spear had a weavers beam like a 4x4 and a 15 pound spear head.....do the math.....the math speaks...the rest.....manure!

 

[wsblind]

Because if you google it the main sites try and peddle this story.....a cubit is 16 to 18 inches....6 and a span...do the math....his spear had a weavers beam like a 4x4 and a 15 pound spear head.....do the math.....the math speaks...the rest.....manure!

Yeah, and by making a cubit smaller than it is........one makes the Ark of Noah less than stellar for its sea worthiness.

 

[JIMBO43]

Because if you google it the main sites try and peddle this story.....a cubit is 16 to 18 inches....6 and a span...do the math....his spear had a weavers beam like a 4x4 and a 15 pound spear head.....do the math.....the math speaks...the rest.....manure!

mate i dunnoo whats possibl with spirits giving birth to spirits its totaly amazing and beyond my wildest imagination how such a thing occurs....

But one thing we know angels can take up the human from the story of lot and in the physical form...Question is how do they do that ? The great mystery...
My guess is spiritual d.n.a cloaking..(CLONING).. some of our creatures have this a bility to clone objects... its Just has the same pattern where ever we talk about angels in the bible theres some sought of hint that dna plays a big part...My guess is since the bible states that when we leave our body we will become like angels then my guess is our souls that we inherit now are the same as angels..



why

because theres probbably millios of our friends who are angels right now who have died and gone into that peaceful state..

 

[dcontroversal]

Yeah, and by making a cubit smaller than it is........one makes the Ark of Noah less than stellar for its sea worthiness.

I hear ya.......amazing how scripture is downplayed, embellished or deemphasized so as to invalidate what is actually being said and or implied......tragic

 

[dcontroversal]

mate i dunnoo whats possibl with spirits giving birth to spirits its totaly amazing and beyond my wildest imagination how such a thing occurs....

But one thing we know angels can take up the human from the story of lot and in the physical form...Question is how do they do that ? The great mystery...
My guess is spiritual d.n.a cloaking..(CLONING).. some of our creatures have this a bility to clone objects... its Just has the same pattern where ever we talk about angels in the bible theres some sought of hint that dna plays a big part...My guess is since the bible states that when we leave our body we will become like angels then my guess is our souls that we inherit now are the same as angels..



why

because theres probbably millios of our friends who are angels right now who have died and gone into that peaceful state..

Well.......

a. We were made a little LOWER than the angels for the suffering of death
b. Angels look to humanity with curiosity as to why God would even consider us.......

Spirit and intelligence.....with the ability to take form here....numerous examples found.......

There is much we do not know or understand........yet!

 

[JIMBO43]

I guess you could say where all just avitars in my mind we are just a body and a sacred body..but our body is only alive due to our spirit which dwellls in our mind our souls are all connected to a tree of life and our purpose here is to be cleansed...

 

[samuel23]

Every angel that appeared in the bible appeared in bodily form so much so that most of the time they were mistaken for humans. Some angels even sat down and had a meal with the humans. We are made a little lower then the angels so angels and humans are very much alike.

 

[wsblind]

I hear ya.......amazing how scripture is downplayed, embellished or deemphasized so as to invalidate what is actually being said and or implied......tragic

Some of the Word is pretty disturbing stuff. It upsets our lazy-boy, picket fence life. I understand. It is disturbing on a human,sheltered level.

 

[jaybird88]

has anyone explained why they would think the sons of seth would be "sons of God" and not sons of Adam like the women, like everyone else?
Gen 5 3
This is the book of the generations of Adam. When God created man, he made him in the likeness of God. [SUP]2 [/SUP]Male and female he created them, and he blessed them and named them Manwhen they were created. [SUP]3 [/SUP]When Adam had lived 130 years, he fathered a son in his own likeness, after his image, and named him Seth.

seth according to Gen 5 3 was a son of Adam why would his sons not follow this order and be sons of seth?

 

[JIMBO43]

has anyone explained why they would think the sons of seth would be "sons of God" and not sons of Adam like the women, like everyone else?
Gen 5 3
This is the book of the generations of Adam. When God created man, he made him in the likeness of God. [SUP]2 [/SUP]Male and female he created them, and he blessed them and named them Manwhen they were created. [SUP]3 [/SUP]When Adam had lived 130 years, he fathered a son in his own likeness, after his image, and named him Seth.

seth according to Gen 5 3 was a son of Adam why would his sons not follow this order and be sons of seth?

Yep the sons of seth are from the line of able (meaning children of God.. the sons of the devil where from cain...

One thing wrong with this is since you can not be a son of God until recieving the spirit... Born again through jesus.. then how cpould ables sons be considered sons of God... and if seths line where sons of God how come only Noah and his family where allowed on the ARK ?

 

[JIMBO43]

has anyone explained why they would think the sons of seth would be "sons of God" and not sons of Adam like the women, like everyone else?
Gen 5 3
This is the book of the generations of Adam. When God created man, he made him in the likeness of God. [SUP]2 [/SUP]Male and female he created them, and he blessed them and named them Manwhen they were created. [SUP]3 [/SUP]When Adam had lived 130 years, he fathered a son in his own likeness, after his image, and named him Seth.

seth according to Gen 5 3 was a son of Adam why would his sons not follow this order and be sons of seth?

Yep the sons of seth are from the line of able (meaning children of God.. the sons of the devil where from cain...

One thing wrong with this is since you can not be a son of God until recieving the spirit... Born again through jesus.. then how could ables sons be considered sons of God... and if seths line where sons of God how come only Noah and his family where allowed on the ARK ?

 

[jaybird88]

Yep the sons of seth are from the line of able (meaning children of God.. the sons of the devil where from cain...

where does the bible say this? the bible says different.
Gen 4 26
To Seth also a son was born, and he called his name Enosh. At that time people began to call upon the name of the LORD.
call upon the name of the Most High means they profained His Holy Name. that was the sons of seth.

One thing wrong with this is since you can not be a son of God until recieving the spirit... Born again through jesus.. then how could ables sons be considered sons of God... and if seths line where sons of God how come only Noah and his family where allowed on the ARK ?

Luke 20 34-36
[SUP]34 [/SUP]And Jesus said to them, “The sons of this age marry and are given in marriage, [SUP]35 [/SUP]but those who are considered worthy to attain to that age and to the resurrection from the dead neither marry nor are given in marriage, [SUP]36 [/SUP]for they cannot die anymore, because they are equal to angels and are sons of God, being sons[SUP][g][/SUP] of the resurrection.

i dont think the transformation is complete until after death. sons of the Most High do not die, we still have death coming, a physical death.

 

[JIMBO43]

man does not have a soul, man[ is] a “living soul”

Man does have a living sould because it is clear that bible says the soul can recieve eternal damnation.....

The soul is a mystery like the spirits that watch over us all,,,, watchers..

My personaly experince of souls is when i have had an outer body experiance.

one day there i was just wondering if only i could leave this body and see of the balcony.. i had been told to sit still and not move by my great gran... she said sit there shut up and watch the tv lol...

Anyways i had other plans and then thT minute i was up i was actualy looking AT my body and i was frozen lol..

Everybody else just couldnt see me it was totaly amazing and a true story..

i went to the balcony to gaze out on the balcony 300 foot high.. ide never been so high.. i didnt try jump over the balcony this time tho cause my gran had give me a right rolicing 2 mins earlier..

anyways i walked back in and saw my body still frozen lol i closed my eyes and said i want to come back now.. and my prayers where answerd all of a sudden i jumped up and said can you see me gran and she said are you taking the mick lol chuckle chuckle