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Ariel82

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Adam was created day 6.....well after the foundations of the earth were laid.........doesn't jive!

AND what MEN would that be?
When were angels created?

What are the foundations of the Earth?

Who is our cornerstone?
 
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When were angels created?
I don't remember any reference to when angels were created.......other than the reference to Lucifer being perfect in the DAY when he was created......which throws a another monkey wrench into the fray.....

New American Standard Bible
"You were blameless in your ways From the day you were created Until unrighteousness was found in you.

King James Bible
Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.
 
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Besides who would give birth to two nations ? thats like saying america and russia
 
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When were angels created?

What are the foundations of the Earth?

Who is our cornerstone?
My point still stands....Adam was made day 6 AFTER what took place in the Job reference.....so what is your point....Adam did not come into existence till day 6.....?
 
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pronia

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Saw a Christian Think-Tank discussing Giants and couldn't resist. What do we think of this?

[video=youtube;lQPT307Ik1M]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQPT307Ik1M[/video]


If it's fake I never saw such a high detailed special effect coupled with a seemingly low budget everything else before in anything ever.

Hard to imagine anything on youTube being totally trustworthy. It is not in seeing that we believe in Giants. Enoch is very clear
 
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pckts

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Hard to imagine anything on youTube being totally trustworthy. It is not in seeing that we believe in Giants. Enoch is very clear
It was Footage contained within this film "Big Man Japan" from 2007. A low-budget japanese somewhat comedy movie. The Scenes had nothing to do with the film itself and were briefly shown.
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Conspiracy theorists believe the footage is authentic Giants and was placed in this other film to discredit their source.
 
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pronia

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The Adam created by the 'elohim' was fashioned out of the 'elements' that were found on this dark and void earth. The fallen archons, "LORD God", did not have the power however to create Eternal 'Life'. So the Lord GOD allowed a mystery to happen that would allow "mankind" to be made in the "image" of the fallen archons, which was indeed sinful. Thankfully our Most Gracious Lord GOD has deceived the "Deceiver" and given certain "men'" power over the 'Ruler and Creator' of this "chaos" that we call heaven and earth. "Elohim" (gods) put in place a Law that if we could possibly obey "they" promised "us" eternal Life. Jesus came to free "us" from the Law which could never do anything except condemn us. Praise Jesus the True Ruler of ALL mankind...and angels
 
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Ariel82

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Who is spoken of in Psalm 82?

​ God stands in the congregation of the mighty; He judges among the gods. How long will you judge unjustly, And show partiality to the wicked? Selah Defend the poor and fatherless; Do justice to the afflicted and needy. Deliver the poor and needy; Free them from the hand of the wicked. They do not know, nor do they understand; They walk about in darkness; All the foundations of the earth are unstable. I said, “You are gods, And all of you are children of the Most High. But you shall die like men, And fall like one of the princes.” Arise, O God, judge the earth; For You shall inherit all nations
 
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Ariel82

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John 10:34 ►
New International Version
Jesus answered them, "Is it not written in your Law, 'I have said you are "gods"

If he called them 'gods,' to whom the word of God came--and Scripture cannot be set aside--

what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, 'I am God's Son'?
 
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Ariel82

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When were angels created?

What are the foundations of the Earth?

Who is our cornerstone?
Angels were created in day 3.

The foundations of the Earth are the natural laws that govern it like: gravity, etc. Sometimes God shakes those foundations up and changes the laws, example tower of Babel. It may not refer to the creation of the world as some assume. The foundations were moved/reestablished after the flood and after Babel.

Jesus is our cornerstone.
 
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Angels were created in day 3.

The foundations of the Earth are the natural laws that govern it like: gravity, etc. Sometimes God shakes those foundations up and changes the laws, example tower of Babel. It may not refer to the creation of the world as some assume. The foundations were moved/reestablished after the flood and after Babel.

Jesus is our cornerstone.
Ummmm What verses say the angels were created the third day?
 
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Ariel82

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Shouldn't type distracted..

Correction to my statement "Angels were created on day 4 or 5 depending on if you believe angels to be stars or birds/flying creatures"
 
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Shouldn't type distracted..

Correction to my statement "Angels were created on day 4 or 5 depending on if you believe angels to be stars or birds/flying creatures"

I don't buy that......the birds came from the water.....Angels are spirit and intelligence that have the ability to take material form....there is no evidence that they were made the 3rd-5th day.....but the context of Job is clear...they sang when God cast down the earth in creation....they were already here when God started creating on day one......
 

Locutus

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One would have to consider why would angels be fitted with begatting equipment?

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One would have to consider why would angels be fitted with begatting equipment?

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AHAH one would also have to remember there is a heavenly and an earthly body....

MEN on earth marry, are given in marriage and procreate....IN heaven they do neither.......what is good for the goose is good for the gander.......
 
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Ariel82

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I don't buy that......the birds came from the water.....Angels are spirit and intelligence that have the ability to take material form....there is no evidence that they were made the 3rd-5th day.....but the context of Job is clear...they sang when God cast down the earth in creation....they were already here when God started creating on day one......
Why do you believe that angels existed before God created on day one?

I take when God says "In the beginning" God is talking about the beginning of creation.

Also I lean towards Angels being Stars in Heaven and created on day 4 to guide humanity and for telling the times and seasons, day and night. If course there are more than one type of Angel so they could be beasts of the air also

Where does it say birds are made from water?

We are told angels are flames to minister to those who will be saved.
 
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sevenseas

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I don't buy that......the birds came from the water.....Angels are spirit and intelligence that have the ability to take material form....there is no evidence that they were made the 3rd-5th day.....but the context of Job is clear...they sang when God cast down the earth in creation....they were already here when God started creating on day one......

I would agree with the above

It seems there is ample evidence in scripture that angels existed before the creation of the earth.
 
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Why do you believe that angels existed before God created on day one?

I take when God says "In the beginning" God is talking about the beginning of creation.

Also I lean towards Angels being Stars in Heaven and created on day 4 to guide humanity and for telling the times and seasons, day and night. If course there are more than one type of Angel so they could be beasts of the air also

Where does it say birds are made from water?

We are told angels are flames to minister to those who will be saved.
God told Abraham the stars represent the seed and stock of Abraham not angels....

The context of Job is creation and how the morning Stars and Sons of God sang when he laid the foundation of the earth...

Genesis states that the fowl who fly in the midst of heaven came from the water Genesis 1:20

And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that has life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.
 

valiant

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Giants were simply very large men. So Goliath was 'six cubits and a span', about 7'6" in height. But they were not invincible. Indeed their overlarge size resulted in weakened muscles.