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notuptome

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Yes.



Yes.

Can a man who is born again and has the mind of Christ and is applying the mind of Christ be angry with God?
Love to see your scriptural support for this contention. Was Jesus ever angry with God?

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 

Magenta

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If tragedy, loss, and suffering do not turn us to seek the ultimate purpose of life, what will?
 
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Amazing-Grace

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I saw a post on facebook just last evening, it was devastating and I thought to share it on my own timeline but I had second thoughts about doing so because I thought to myself "if one of my atheist family members/friends were to see it, the first thing they will say is "how can there be a God when this kind of thing is happening in the world".

I think God allowing terrible things is one of the most difficult things to explain to an atheist because they don't believe in anything beyond this life - actually if I'm honest the thought occurs to me sometimes....apologies if I have veered a little off-topic but the above comment brought this to mind. I will see if I can post what I saw here - don't hold your breath though lol.
I'm sorry but I'm unable to upload the picture of a bald deathly-white boy about to throw up in his bathroom but these words which accompanied it hit hard and this is what I was referring to: "For anyone battling cancer or enduring chemotherapy. For anyone going through this horrible disease. It is about to get real, real hard and real quick. The picture I'm posting is from this morning, and before you scream and cry 'why would she post a picture of him in a pull up, the indecency', well 1. It doesnt show more than swimming jammers would and 2. Because life is not always politically correct and pretty, it is real. Life isn't pretty, and cancer destroys a person.This was this morning after carrying Drake to the bathroom. Yes, he is in a pull up because 75% of the time he can't control his bathroom habits. This is skin and bones, because I have to beg him to eat ONE green bean for supper, or drink a cup of water throughout the day. This is having your son sleep with you at night because he is afraid of something happening and being alone, and by something I mean dying. This is having middle of the night conversations with a ten year old, asking if he dies will he go to heaven and will he see his dad there and be able to talk and play with him. This is him being too weak to get out of bed or walk and needing to be carried or in a wheelchair. This is him falling asleep as someone is talking to him, because he is too exhausted. This is him, throwing up every medication I give him and him dry heaving because his stomach is empty except for the spoonful of yogurt I just gave him with his pills. This is having to take 44 chemo pills last week in a matter of 24 hours. This is him telling me, 'mommy, I'm not going to make it.' This is him not wanting to be touched, because it hurts too much, and using morphine to get through his day. This is him telling me he is scared and thinks he won't see his 11th birthday. This is him and me, telling him that I will continue to fight for him when he can't. This is him and me, and our world.
This is him, Drake, Stinky Joe, my whole world. From the moment I found out I was pregnant till future forever, he has been my reason for life. He is my smile, my love, my heartbeat. He is also my tears, my heart ache, my frowns. He is my life."


 

BenFTW

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If tragedy, loss, and suffering do not turn us to seek the ultimate purpose of life, what will?
That's an optimistic perspective, but quite a bit of people try to fill that void inside of them with everything but God. They see suffering in the world and so they seek pleasure, or any illusion to alienate themselves by using the vanity (as Solomon might say) of life.

I think what ultimately allows us to seek our ultimate purpose in life is God's divine intervention and guidance. Such negative things as tragedy, loss, and suffering are not always a catalyst to change, but defeat. A loss of hope. Yet, God is ever faithful in His timing. As scripture says, it is God's goodness that leads men to repentance.
 

notuptome

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If tragedy, loss, and suffering do not turn us to seek the ultimate purpose of life, what will?
Scripture teaches that it is the goodness of God that leads men to repentance.

Ro 2:4 Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance?

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 
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sevenseas

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I like these verses from Lamentations 3. Reading the last 2 posts that's what I thought of

I think they are also sung in a chorus

22 The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases;
his mercies never come to an end;
23 they are new every morning;
great is your faithfulness.


 

notuptome

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Eph 4:26 Be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath:

Angry with sin but do not blame God.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 
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I understand you. I know the emotions flowing through you, as your breaths become shallow and deep. You see your situation and are hurting. You are angry, and distraught. I know these feelings all too well, as I know what its like to be trodden down by looking in the mirror. You might even blame God, and direct some of your frustrations towards Him. He, however, isn't to blame.

How can we be angry at God, who is the one that can deliver us? He can heal, and set free. As much as we think upon God's sovereignty and why we are in our particular situation, let us keep in mind that He still holds the key to our victory. Don't be angry with God, rather seek His deliverance and mercy. He is gracious and kind. Read His word and see who He is. Of all the things God has shown in His word it is that He is faithful to fulfill His word.

So, yes, I understand you. I know the emotions flowing through you. You are not alone in such a mindset of solitude, but there is solidarity. God is not the one to be blamed. Repent. He is your deliver, and He loves you. Seek Him, for He is good and gracious.
your only as good as your teacher. first learn who your teacher is. secondly learn, you can not be better that your teacher.
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Was Job angry with God? Maybe I should say, was the wife of Job angry with God? It is normal to be angry with God sometimes, however do not stay angry with God because He knows all things and we know very little.
 
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People can get angry with God because of their wrong perception of who He really is. If religion tells us that "God" kills your child to teach you something or brings calamity to your household - no one's heart can trust a being like that.

I believe many people are angry with God because of what false teaching has said the nature of God is like.Jesus is perfect theology. He came to reveal the Father to us. What ever perception we have of God which doesn't line up with what Christ showed us while on this earth - that perception will be skewed and wrong.
How can Jesus be perfect theology when you believe everything He taught before the cross is OT & done away with?
 
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I don't interact with those that have been shown continuously to slander others and to mis-represent what others are saying because of malice and bitterness.

Paul told us what to do in these cases.

Romans 16:17 (KJV)
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Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.

Hebrews 12:15 (NASB)
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See to it that no one comes short of the grace of God; that no root of bitterness springing up causes trouble, and by it many be defiled;
 
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The gift of life is also a gift of its end death.

Without death the sins of the fathers would never end, and a new generation not
learn from scratch the walk of life and love.

Life is a choice, take things in love and accept pain, or rail against the injustice of
it all and how dare there be any problems or difficulty.

We are the product of choices, millions of them, by our fore fathers and parents.
All the blessing and opportunity comes through them.

But we have this sense of fairness. It is just not fair. But what we do not see
is Gods hand and His intent and the real question is, where is your heart, to respond
in love or hate, anger or seeing the best in the most difficult of situations.

Life only has value when love enters the room, no matter how short or how long it
lasts this is what defines it.