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This is not a very important issue, just wondered what some others might think. Is lust always wrong? How can people have a physical relationship without some lust? Would not going through life without any lust for anything ever, be kind of a bland existence?
 
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Lust is never good. Lust is a selfish act. Sex, the way God intended it, is not selfish. Desiring your spouse is a reflection of love that each should regularly follow. Lust will lead you to sex with who ever you happen to want at that moment. Lust is the basis for porn, which sex trafficking and abuse. Prostitution. Rampant STD's. Not to mention you can lust after things other than sex. But it's all about getting yourself satisfied. Is eliminating a form of selfish indulgence really 'bland' to you? I see selfishness all around me and it's ruining relationships... the world as a whole.
 

Tinkerbell725

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Lust is desire for things that lead us away from God. The human heart is corrupted but only if we desire God and seek Him with all our hearts can our hearts become pure. No matter what we do by ourselves, we can never make the corrupted heart become selfless. Only the selfless love of God can transform us to become selfless. When we are happy in Him, all forms of lust and sin are no longer appealing or enticing, this is the meaning of holiness. Righteousness or holiness is not bland. It is the best life that God wants for us.
 

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This is not a very important issue, just wondered what some others might think. Is lust always wrong? How can people have a physical relationship without some lust? Would not going through life without any lust for anything ever, be kind of a bland existence?
Lust is the opposite of love. Some confuse the two. When you look upon your spouse's naked parts and get excited- that is love not lust. A lot of people feel guilty about things that God intended. This is because most sexual relations are wrong. But they are not wrong in marriage. God even commanded it. He told Adam and Eve to "be fruitful" and fill the earth with people. God made fruit with the intention for us to enjoy, we shouldn't feel guilty about it. In the same way, God made male and female parts for a reason. Not every pleasure is a guilty pleasure.
 
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This is not a very important issue, just wondered what some others might think. Is lust always wrong? How can people have a physical relationship without some lust? Would not going through life without any lust for anything ever, be kind of a bland existence?

1 john 2:16-17 "For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. 17And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever."

we can lust after sexual things, money, power, material possession ect. But those things are not of Gods will but the influences of a world that is destined to perish. our hunger and thirst is righteousness according to the Judgements of Jesus Christ. there is a clear message concerning the world that many miss or refuse to accept. the world and its ways are contrary to Gods will, because man was given the authority in the beginning and destroyed what God created good and pure, all because of Lust for the forbidden....
 
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Attraction is fine. God has place in humanity to be naturally attracted to the opposite sex. However he doesn't want people to lust after one another which can produce sin. Even Paul spoke about how sexual immorality was occurring & it would be best for people to be married. Now there's a difference between lusting for the person you are married to & lusting after a random person on the street.
 

Dan58

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Lust is just desire, and its natural to desire someone that we're attracted to. Without that desire, no one would get married. Of course, lusting for anything that belongs to another is wrong. "Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's" (Exodus 20:17). Jesus expounded upon this when he said that lusting for a married woman, or for a single woman when your married, is committing adultery of the heart. But I feel that if your single, and the woman is single, the natural desires of the flesh is what leads to marriage.
 
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lust is using our natural desires and inclination wrongly. The apostle James said this is wear sin is birthed. Jesus said pluck out the eye and cut of the hand (marks of the beast), for it is better to enter the kingdom maimed than be cast whole into hell..The answer is to have a single eye on Christ, (the minds eye, the window of the soul) focused on Jesus and renewing the mind by the washing of the word, passing the time wisely for the days are evil. Many are brought into the faith having two eyes full of adultery. Plucking out the eye, and cutting of the hand is liken to crucifying the flesh with its evil passions and desires, and be of temperance, in that godliness and contentment are great gain, not godliness and worldliness.....
 
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The word translated desired in the following verse is the Greek word for lust (obviously with a different ending for grammatical purposes)...is this a BAD USE of the word?

epithumia: desire, passionate longing, lust​
Original Word:ἐπιθυμία, ας, ἡ
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
Transliteration: epithumia
Phonetic Spelling: (ep-ee-thoo-mee'-ah)
Short Definition: desire, eagerness for, inordinate desire, lust
Definition: desire, eagerness for, inordinate desire, lust.

ἀμὴν γὰρ λέγω ὑμῖν ὅτι πολλοὶ προφῆται καὶ δίκαιοι ἐπεθύμησαν ἰδεῖν ἃ βλέπετε καὶ οὐκ εἶδαν, καὶ ἀκοῦσαι ἃ ἀκούετε καὶ οὐκ ἤκουσαν.

New American Standard Bible
"For truly I say to you that many prophets and righteous men desired to see what you see, and did not see it, and to hear what you hear, and did not hear it.

King James Bible
For verily I say unto you, That many prophets and righteous men have desired to see those things which ye see, and have not seen them; and to hear those things which ye hear, and have not heard them.
 
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This is not a very important issue, just wondered what some others might think. Is lust always wrong? How can people have a physical relationship without some lust? Would not going through life without any lust for anything ever, be kind of a bland existence?
Jesus told us not to commit adultery, and he told us that when we look lustfully at someone, we've already committed adultery (Matt 5:28). You seem to want to believe that the Lord's commandments are unimportant. You'll only get yourself into trouble if you do that.
 
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A few of you figured out my little trick, or almost did, the word lust does NOT mean something evil, it simply means to have a strong desire. Jesus said to the 12 apostles on the night before he was betrayed, with lust have I lusted to eat this meal with you(paraphrase). When the lust is for something good the translators used the word "desire", however it is the same word. To go through life without ever having a strong desire for anything would be a bland existence indeed.
 
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Lusting after a woman is thinking that you would if you could. The only thing lacking being the opportunity.
 
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A few of you figured out my little trick, or almost did, the word lust does NOT mean something evil, it simply means to have a strong desire. Jesus said to the 12 apostles on the night before he was betrayed, with lust have I lusted to eat this meal with you(paraphrase). When the lust is for something good the translators used the word "desire", however it is the same word. To go through life without ever having a strong desire for anything would be a bland existence indeed.
It means a strong desire for what you have no business having that strong desire for. It seeks to fulfill good God-given desires in an ungodly way.
 
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A few of you figured out my little trick, or almost did, the word lust does NOT mean something evil, it simply means to have a strong desire. Jesus said to the 12 apostles on the night before he was betrayed, with lust have I lusted to eat this meal with you(paraphrase). When the lust is for something good the translators used the word "desire", however it is the same word. To go through life without ever having a strong desire for anything would be a bland existence indeed.
Some things are constructive and some are destructive. If you cultivate a strong desire for something destructive, you will act on that desire when the opportunity arises, and it will arise.
 
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We usually think of lust as a bad thing because it is usually used in that context because of the fallen nature of man and his desire for things that God does not want him to have. My point was that the word "lust" in the bible is a neutral word and can be used to mean something good or bad depending on what is lusted after. All men and I suppose women, lust after each other or else there would be no children, remember lust just means strong desire, WHAT we strongly desire determines whether or not it is sin.
 
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We usually think of lust as a bad thing because it is usually used in that context because of the fallen nature of man and his desire for things that God does not want him to have. My point was that the word "lust" in the bible is a neutral word and can be used to mean something good or bad depending on what is lusted after. All men and I suppose women, lust after each other or else there would be no children, remember lust just means strong desire, WHAT we strongly desire determines whether or not it is sin.
Could you show us where scripture ever speaks of lust as a positive good thing?
 
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Could you show us where scripture ever speaks of lust as a positive good thing?
Good

1It is a trustworthy statement: if any man aspires to the office of overseer, it is a fine work he desires to do.

Bad

6Now these things happened as examples for us, so that we would not crave evil things as they also craved.

epithumeó: desire, lust after
Original Word: ἐπιθυμέω
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: epithumeó
Phonetic Spelling: (ep-ee-thoo-meh'-o)
Short Definition: I long for, covet, lust after
Definition: I long for, covet, lust after, set the heart upon.
 
Dec 12, 2013
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Is it lust if I am craving a nice, large, hot fudge sundae with whipped cream, extra hot fudge and three cherries on top? ;) HAHAH
 
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Good

1It is a trustworthy statement: if any man aspires to the office of overseer, it is a fine work he desires to do.

Bad

6Now these things happened as examples for us, so that we would not crave evil things as they also craved.

epithumeó: desire, lust after
Original Word: ἐπιθυμέω
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: epithumeó
Phonetic Spelling: (ep-ee-thoo-meh'-o)
Short Definition: I long for, covet, lust after
Definition: I long for, covet, lust after, set the heart upon.
Makes one wonder why translations use "lust" in one instance and "desire" in another, doesn't it? Why not just use the word lust or desire all the time if they are synonymous? Remember, context is king.
 

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Is it lust if I am craving a nice, large, hot fudge sundae with whipped cream, extra hot fudge and three cherries on top? ;) HAHAH
****no, but it could be against the Marine manual...