Prayers for the past events

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trofimus

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God is over time. Does it mean we can pray for the things that already happened in the past? Can they be influenced by it retroactively?
 

BrokenSparrow

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I'm not sure exactly what type of situations that you are referring to, but one bible verse comes to mind.
Philippians 3:13
Brothers and sisters, I do not consider myself yet to have taken hold of it. But one thing I do: Forgetting what is behind and straining toward what is ahead,
 

Prov910

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I like thinking about things like this, but it gets sort of science fictiony. I've long thought that God isn't limited to linear time like you and I. We only experience the present, and remember the past. But I think God is currently in the past, in the present, and in the future. The Great I Am is the alpha and omega, he's in the past, present and future. (See Rev. 22:13)

I don't think you can pray and expect things in the past to change. But before those past things happened God knew about your (then) future prayers, and took them into account. So I'd say it can't hurt to pray. Also, perhaps you could pray for God to grant you understanding of how those past events worked for His will and glory, and for you to somehow play a role in furthering His will and glorifying Him.
 
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trofimus

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I like thinking about things like this, but it gets sort of science fictiony. I've long thought that God isn't limited to linear time like you and I. We only experience the present, and remember the past. But I think God is currently in the past, in the present, and in the future. The Great I Am is the alpha and omega, he's in the past, present and future. (See Rev. 22:13)

I don't think you can pray and expect things in the past to change. But before those past things happened God knew about your (then) future prayers, and took them into account. So I'd say it can't hurt to pray. Also, perhaps you could pray for God to grant you understanding of how those past events worked for His will and glory, and for you to somehow play a role in furthering His will and glorifying Him.
So when God knew about our prayes before the world was created, my prayer I will make tomorrow will influence what He knew before the foundation of the world? :) In that case it has this effect and can change the past...?
 

BrokenSparrow

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This is interesting, but I'm not sure I'm getting what you guys are saying.

The past has already happened and I just can't see it changing now. Even if we say God took our future prayers into account before a past event happened and changed it. Wouldn't it still just be the past now? I mean it is the only reality we know? It is what it is now, right.
 

Locutus

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I guess you could pray for forgiveness for something someone did in the past - not sure how it work out though.
 

Prov910

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So when God knew about our prayes before the world was created, my prayer I will make tomorrow will influence what He knew before the foundation of the world? :) In that case it has this effect and can change the past...?
Well, sort of, I think. I don't think you can change the past now that it's already happened. But since God back then already knew what you were going to pray now, perhaps He took it into account back then. That is, perhaps your current prayers were already taken into account when the past events happened. This is what I meant above by science fictiony. (I don't think any of this is addressed in the bible, btw.) LOL :)
 

Dan_473

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God is over time. Does it mean we can pray for the things that already happened in the past? Can they be influenced by it retroactively?
I've wonders this myself

my best approach is

When in doubt, pray, and see what happens
 
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God is over time. Does it mean we can pray for the things that already happened in the past? Can they be influenced by it retroactively?
This is interesting, but I don't think we can pray that World War II never happened. On the other hand ...
 

lastofall

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[for me anyway] what has happened God appointed to happen for His purpose: for if it were so to pray for the past to be changed, we could pray for the fall of man to not have happened, so that the garden of Eden could we be in until now; but we know better. Beside that if praying for the past were ordained of God, then wherefore should we press for the mark of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus? and also forget the things which are behind, and reach forth unto those things which are before?
 

BenFTW

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This is a tad morbid, but for people who have died without knowing Christ or had no interest in Him, we cannot pray for their salvation as they lost their opportunity (that is life). We cannot change the fact that there is one death and then judgement (unless of course, one raises the dead haha). So, in this same respect, the past is concrete. If prayers could change the past, or alter it, would there even be one soul in Hell?

Now, what can be done I suppose is a prayer for God to remove something from one's memory. If in Heaven we will not have sorrow and certain knowledge will be erased (so as to not cause mourning), could not God then, in this life, remove memories of the past or how they affect our heart?
 
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Sometimes I pray for people who have already lived and died, in that if they have salvation, may their rewards multiply, but if they're condemned, may their anguish be somewhat alleviated. It's weird but it is what it is I guess.
 
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BeyondET

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This is a tad morbid, but for people who have died without knowing Christ or had no interest in Him, we cannot pray for their salvation as they lost their opportunity (that is life). We cannot change the fact that there is one death and then judgement (unless of course, one raises the dead haha). So, in this same respect, the past is concrete. If prayers could change the past, or alter it, would there even be one soul in Hell?

Now, what can be done I suppose is a prayer for God to remove something from one's memory. If in Heaven we will not have sorrow and certain knowledge will be erased (so as to not cause mourning), could not God then, in this life, remove memories of the past or how they affect our heart?
No that is morbid. :(
 
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BeyondET

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Haha. :p

Well, it makes a clear point. It answers the question, directly with no ifs, and's, or buts about it. :D
lol. yea you've got point, no sense in beating around bush.
 
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sevenseas

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This is a tad morbid, but for people who have died without knowing Christ or had no interest in Him, we cannot pray for their salvation as they lost their opportunity (that is life). We cannot change the fact that there is one death and then judgement (unless of course, one raises the dead haha). So, in this same respect, the past is concrete. If prayers could change the past, or alter it, would there even be one soul in Hell?

Now, what can be done I suppose is a prayer for God to remove something from one's memory. If in Heaven we will not have sorrow and certain knowledge will be erased (so as to not cause mourning), could not God then, in this life, remove memories of the past or how they affect our heart?


I have actually done that and I think that is part of how God heals our minds and emotions.

We can't change the past but we can live in the moment and and learn from the past

Regret can be a real drag