Through the book of Acts rightly divided

[RomansToPhilemon]

Here is a two part series on the book of Acts proving that the body of Christ does not and cannot start before Paul is saved. The video consists of two 30 minute videos. Enjoy!

[video=youtube;mBGaD8uZ8Uk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBGaD8uZ8Uk[/video]


Notable scriptures: Luke 13.8-9 KJB -- proof of a one year extension given to Israel to repent after they crucified Christ. They did not repent as a nation and were cut off. This corresponds to the time period from Acts 1 to Acts 7. Exactly one year. The stoning of Stephan was the final moments of them existing as a nation. Notice in Acts 7.55-58 Christ was sitting down on his thrown but then STANDS as Stephen looks up at heaven. That's significant because the bible says when Christ stands judgement is coming to the world. I.e Daniels 70th week. But we know that didn't happen. Why? Because God had something HIDDEN in him called a mystery; secret revelation not ever known. And God saves Paul, who blasphemed the holy ghost mind you (Israels gospel says you cannot be saved if you blaspheme the holy Ghost. So how does God save Paul???), and brings in a a new dispensation called the grace of God. And had this mystery been known before (even the angles didn't know) Christ would not have been crucified. 1 Cor 2.6-8

But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God, And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.

Also, consider this in Romans 11.11. Where Paul says I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy.

Now this verse may throw your mind into a whirl-spin because it's confusing. But take another look. What's being talked about here when it says "have they stumbled that they should fall?" Then proceeds to say that they did fall! HAHA~ It's talking about the crucifixion of Christ. That was them stumbling, but they did NOT fall at that time.

1 Peter 2.8-9
Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner, And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.

This is why it says in the very next breath in Romans 11.11 God can say, ""BUT RATHER THROUGH their fall." When was that? 'Through their fall' is that ONE YEAR extension of mercy! Luke 13.8-9


To sum it up easily. Did they fall at the crucifixion. Nay. But after the one year extension of mercy they DO FALL. Hence, Romans 11.25 "For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in."

Rom 11.28-30
As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers’ sakes. For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance. For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief:

**(side note: It still baffles me that there are some denominations that think they have replaced Israel even when the bible says those that call themselves Israel are ENEMIES lol.)**

Clearly Paul is preaching salvation now has come to the gentiles APART from Israel. Before Paul, gentiles could only be saved THROUGH Israel. Just one more proof that Paul's gospel is NOT Peter's gospel. This is the begging of understanding how to rightly divide the word of truth 2 Tim 2.15.

Also, if you don't only use a KJB you will never be able to see these truths because the other versions attack the mystery of Christ because it's the mystery that defeated Satan. 1 Cor 2.6-8 All Translations, except the KJB, use corrupted Alexandrian, Egypt manuscripts. Only the KJB uses the Antioch, majority, line of manuscripts.

Paul warns not to be "For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, ..."

 

[JesusRules1]

That is not true for the body of Christ started as soon as people could receive the Spirit.

The Bible says that we are like a building all fitting together,built upon another,with Jesus Christ being the chief cornerstone so it is all built upon Christ.

Jesus said to Peter that He will build His Church upon him,which means Peter will be the first one added to that building,built upon Jesus Christ,which Peter was given the keys to the kingdom,which means he preached the first message to get the Church going.

As soon as Peter received the Spirit he was part of the body of Christ,for whether we are part of the kingdom of God,the body of Christ,a building being built on top of each other,it is the same thing,for once you receive the Spirit,you are part of the body of Christ,and they were receiving the Spirit before Paul was saved,and started preaching.

Act 2:39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
Act 2:40 And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.
Act 2:41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.
Act 2:42 And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.
Act 2:43 And fear came upon every soul: and many wonders and signs were done by the apostles.
Act 2:44 And all that believed were together, and had all things common;
Act 2:45 And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.
Act 2:46 And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart,
Act 2:47 Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.

When Peter preached the message of salvation,three thousand souls were saved,and the Lord added to the Church daily such as should be saved,so a lot of people were part of the Church before Paul was saved,and if they are part of the Church they are part of the body of Christ.

Once a person claims Jesus as Lord and Savior,and is saved they are part of the body of Christ,and they were doing that before Paul got saved.

God said concerning the Jews,that while there is a lot that reject the truth,He always has Jews that are in the truth,like Messianic Jews today.

Israel is blinded in part until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in means,that Israel as a nation does not accept Jesus as Messiah,and they are blinded in part,which means they go by the Old Testament,but as a nation do not go by the New Testament,until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in,when salvation is no longer available to the Gentiles,which is when they follow the beast kingdom in Revelation.

And so all Israel shall be saved,the kingdom on earth restored to the Jews,which the disciples asked Jesus if He would restore the kingdom at that time,and He said the Father will do it in His own time,but go preach the Gospel,and God will make an end of all nations where the Jews were scattered,but not make a full end of Israel,but will not leave her wholly unpunished,but when Israel has borne her shame then the kingdom on earth will be restored to her.

God will send Israel to witnesses to turn the Jews to the truth that Jesus is the Messiah,and they will not be blinded in part anymore,and salvation will no longer be available to the Gentiles,and the kingdom on earth will be restored to Israel.

People were part of the body of Christ before Paul was saved.

And Israel is blinded in part until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in,is a future event,that is why it says all Israel shall be saved,which is when all Gentile governments collapse,and the kingdom on earth restored to Israel.

The fulness of the Gentiles be come in is when salvation is no longer available to them,when they follow the beast kingdom in Revelation.

 

[Chester]

Notable scriptures: Luke 13.8-9 KJB -- proof of a one year extension given to Israel to repent after they crucified Christ. They did not repent as a nation and were cut off. This corresponds to the time period from Acts 1 to Acts 7. Exactly one year.

Quite the Scripture twisting to make it fit one's own doctrine! LOL!

 

[Locutus]

This is a view that has been termed hyper or ultra dispensationalism - it ignores various scriptures - it is the outcome of the dispensational view that there are two "programs" - one for the church and one for Israel.

 

[RomansToPhilemon]

That is not true for the body of Christ started as soon as people could receive the Spirit.

The Bible says that we are like a building all fitting together,built upon another,with Jesus Christ being the chief cornerstone so it is all built upon Christ.

Jesus said to Peter that He will build His Church upon him,which means Peter will be the first one added to that building,built upon Jesus Christ,which Peter was given the keys to the kingdom,which means he preached the first message to get the Church going.

As soon as Peter received the Spirit he was part of the body of Christ,for whether we are part of the kingdom of God,the body of Christ,a building being built on top of each other,it is the same thing,for once you receive the Spirit,you are part of the body of Christ,and they were receiving the Spirit before Paul was saved,and started preaching.

Act 2:39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
Act 2:40 And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.
Act 2:41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.
Act 2:42 And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.
Act 2:43 And fear came upon every soul: and many wonders and signs were done by the apostles.
Act 2:44 And all that believed were together, and had all things common;
Act 2:45 And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.
Act 2:46 And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart,
Act 2:47 Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.

When Peter preached the message of salvation,three thousand souls were saved,and the Lord added to the Church daily such as should be saved,so a lot of people were part of the Church before Paul was saved,and if they are part of the Church they are part of the body of Christ.

Once a person claims Jesus as Lord and Savior,and is saved they are part of the body of Christ,and they were doing that before Paul got saved.

God said concerning the Jews,that while there is a lot that reject the truth,He always has Jews that are in the truth,like Messianic Jews today.

Israel is blinded in part until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in means,that Israel as a nation does not accept Jesus as Messiah,and they are blinded in part,which means they go by the Old Testament,but as a nation do not go by the New Testament,until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in,when salvation is no longer available to the Gentiles,which is when they follow the beast kingdom in Revelation.

And so all Israel shall be saved,the kingdom on earth restored to the Jews,which the disciples asked Jesus if He would restore the kingdom at that time,and He said the Father will do it in His own time,but go preach the Gospel,and God will make an end of all nations where the Jews were scattered,but not make a full end of Israel,but will not leave her wholly unpunished,but when Israel has borne her shame then the kingdom on earth will be restored to her.

God will send Israel to witnesses to turn the Jews to the truth that Jesus is the Messiah,and they will not be blinded in part anymore,and salvation will no longer be available to the Gentiles,and the kingdom on earth will be restored to Israel.

People were part of the body of Christ before Paul was saved.

And Israel is blinded in part until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in,is a future event,that is why it says all Israel shall be saved,which is when all Gentile governments collapse,and the kingdom on earth restored to Israel.

The fulness of the Gentiles be come in is when salvation is no longer available to them,when they follow the beast kingdom in Revelation.

Christ doens't say he will build his church with Peter. Christ says the rock is himself. The church is built on Christ.

Rom 9.33
As it is written, Behold, I (Christ) lay in Sion a stumblingstone and rock of offence: and whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.

Isiah 8.14
And he shall be for a sanctuary; but for a stone of stumbling and for a rock of offence to both the houses of Israel, for a gin and for a snare to the inhabitants of Jerusalem.

Clearly Christ is the rock, not Peter. Try again.

The church at pentecost didn't start in Acts 2. It started back in the gospels.

Heb 2.3
How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him; God also bearing them witness, both with signs and wonders, and with divers miracles, and gifts of the Holy Ghost, according to his own will?

Which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord. That church in Acts 2 began first spoken by him. And was CONFIRMED over there in Acts 2. This is why it says people were ADDED TO the church. Can't add to something that doesn't exist yet. The body of Christ is a MYSTERY! Watch the video.

 

[RomansToPhilemon]

Quite the Scripture twisting to make it fit one's own doctrine! LOL!

How so. The verse says

And he answering said unto him, Lord, let it alone this year also, till I shall dig about it, and dung it: And if it bear fruit, well: and if not, then after that thou shalt cut it down.

You clearly didn't watch the video. Watch it and learn something new!

 

[Hizikyah]

John/Yahanan 7:16-17, "Yahshua answered, them, and said: My doctrine is not Mine, but His Who sent Me. If any man will do His will, he will know about this teaching, whether it comes from YHWH, or whether I am speaking of My own authority."

John/Yahanan 12:48, "He who rejects Me, and does not follow My words has One Who judges him. The word that I have spoken, the same will be used to judge him in the last day."

2 John/Yahanan 1:9, "Everyone who goes on ahead and does not abide in the teaching of the Messiah, does not have Yah. Whoever abides in the teaching has both the Father and the Son."

Luke 6:46, "And why call Me; Ruler! Ruler! and do not the things which I say?"

John/Yahanan 4:25-26, "The woman said to Him; I know that the Messiah comes, and when He comes, He will tell us all things. Yahshua said to her: I am He speaking to you."

John/Yahanan 5:24, "Most certainly I tell you, he who hears (191) my word, and believes him who sent me, has eternal life, and doesn't come into judgment (2920), but has passed out of death into life."

John/Yahanan 10:16, "And I have other sheep that are not of this fold. I must bring them also, and they will listen to My voice. So there will be one flock, one Shepherd (4166 - poimén)."

John/Yahanan 14:23, "Yahshua answered, and said to him: If a man loves Me, he will keep My teachings and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our home with him."

Mat 28:20, “Teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you. And lo, I am with you always, to the end of the age."

Mat 24:35, “Heaven and earth may pass away, but My teachings will not pass away.”

 

[iamsoandso]

How so. The verse says

And he answering said unto him, Lord, let it alone this year also, till I shall dig about it, and dung it: And if it bear fruit, well: and if not, then after that thou shalt cut it down.

You clearly didn't watch the video. Watch it and learn something new!

No offence in what I am saying but for the most part the vast majority of folks at C.C. seem fairly set in their positions. I have been here since about 2012 and in that time I’ve rarely if ever seen anyone swap camps so to speak.

The thing about the youtube videos as for me(maybe others) is that it's just one more video among a bazillion of others that by now have already been posted. I have watched a few in times past but I kind of weigh it out as to how much data speed I'm gonna sacrifice verses how many days until the next payment. Again no offence but considering your effort it is only fair to tell the truth of it.

I am saying this because of your statement "learn something new" and thought I would point out that for the most part most here it seems probably researched the different camps,positions,ect. and made some sort of choice in the matter back in the 70's and 80's some even long before that. So if it's the Idea that D'ism in which ever form is something new that most have never herd of and your expecting a "wow! look at this!" type response you'll probably not get it unless of coarse someone is new to theology and trying to piece together what’s what so they can make a choice. Anyway if it's helpful to say it would be probably better to approach things as if you realize that many of those/us ect. have by now already studied most all of the material you are presenting.

 

[valiant]

How so. The verse says

And he answering said unto him, Lord, let it alone this year also, till I shall dig about it, and dung it: And if it bear fruit, well: and if not, then after that thou shalt cut it down.

You clearly didn't watch the video. Watch it and learn something new!

The video teaches me how to WRONGLY divide the word of truth

 

[GraftedBranch]

Here is a two part series on the book of Acts proving that the body of Christ does not and cannot start before Paul is saved. The video consists of two 30 minute videos. Enjoy!

[video=youtube;mBGaD8uZ8Uk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBGaD8uZ8Uk[/video]


Notable scriptures: Luke 13.8-9 KJB -- proof of a one year extension given to Israel to repent after they crucified Christ. They did not repent as a nation and were cut off. This corresponds to the time period from Acts 1 to Acts 7. Exactly one year. The stoning of Stephan was the final moments of them existing as a nation. Notice in Acts 7.55-58 Christ was sitting down on his thrown but then STANDS as Stephen looks up at heaven. That's significant because the bible says when Christ stands judgement is coming to the world. I.e Daniels 70th week. But we know that didn't happen. Why? Because God had something HIDDEN in him called a mystery; secret revelation not ever known. And God saves Paul, who blasphemed the holy ghost mind you (Israels gospel says you cannot be saved if you blaspheme the holy Ghost. So how does God save Paul???), and brings in a a new dispensation called the grace of God. And had this mystery been known before (even the angles didn't know) Christ would not have been crucified. 1 Cor 2.6-8

But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God, And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.

Also, consider this in Romans 11.11. Where Paul says I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy.

Now this verse may throw your mind into a whirl-spin because it's confusing. But take another look. What's being talked about here when it says "have they stumbled that they should fall?" Then proceeds to say that they did fall! HAHA~ It's talking about the crucifixion of Christ. That was them stumbling, but they did NOT fall at that time.

1 Peter 2.8-9
Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner, And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.

This is why it says in the very next breath in Romans 11.11 God can say, ""BUT RATHER THROUGH their fall." When was that? 'Through their fall' is that ONE YEAR extension of mercy! Luke 13.8-9


To sum it up easily. Did they fall at the crucifixion. Nay. But after the one year extension of mercy they DO FALL. Hence, Romans 11.25 "For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in."

Rom 11.28-30
As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers’ sakes. For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance. For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief:

**(side note: It still baffles me that there are some denominations that think they have replaced Israel even when the bible says those that call themselves Israel are ENEMIES lol.)**

Clearly Paul is preaching salvation now has come to the gentiles APART from Israel. Before Paul, gentiles could only be saved THROUGH Israel. Just one more proof that Paul's gospel is NOT Peter's gospel. This is the begging of understanding how to rightly divide the word of truth 2 Tim 2.15.

Also, if you don't only use a KJB you will never be able to see these truths because the other versions attack the mystery of Christ because it's the mystery that defeated Satan. 1 Cor 2.6-8 All Translations, except the KJB, use corrupted Alexandrian, Egypt manuscripts. Only the KJB uses the Antioch, majority, line of manuscripts.

Paul warns not to be "For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, ..."

Well done my brother.

 

[followjesus]

Here is a two part series on the book of Acts proving that the body of Christ does not and cannot start before Paul is saved. The video consists of two 30 minute videos. Enjoy!

[video=youtube;mBGaD8uZ8Uk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBGaD8uZ8Uk[/video]


Notable scriptures: Luke 13.8-9 KJB -- proof of a one year extension given to Israel to repent after they crucified Christ. They did not repent as a nation and were cut off. This corresponds to the time period from Acts 1 to Acts 7. Exactly one year. The stoning of Stephan was the final moments of them existing as a nation. Notice in Acts 7.55-58 Christ was sitting down on his thrown but then STANDS as Stephen looks up at heaven. That's significant because the bible says when Christ stands judgement is coming to the world. I.e Daniels 70th week. But we know that didn't happen. Why? Because God had something HIDDEN in him called a mystery; secret revelation not ever known. And God saves Paul, who blasphemed the holy ghost mind you (Israels gospel says you cannot be saved if you blaspheme the holy Ghost. So how does God save Paul???), and brings in a a new dispensation called the grace of God. And had this mystery been known before (even the angles didn't know) Christ would not have been crucified. 1 Cor 2.6-8

But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God, And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.

Also, consider this in Romans 11.11. Where Paul says I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy.

Now this verse may throw your mind into a whirl-spin because it's confusing. But take another look. What's being talked about here when it says "have they stumbled that they should fall?" Then proceeds to say that they did fall! HAHA~ It's talking about the crucifixion of Christ. That was them stumbling, but they did NOT fall at that time.

1 Peter 2.8-9
Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner, And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.

This is why it says in the very next breath in Romans 11.11 God can say, ""BUT RATHER THROUGH their fall." When was that? 'Through their fall' is that ONE YEAR extension of mercy! Luke 13.8-9


To sum it up easily. Did they fall at the crucifixion. Nay. But after the one year extension of mercy they DO FALL. Hence, Romans 11.25 "For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in."

Rom 11.28-30
As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers’ sakes. For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance. For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief:

**(side note: It still baffles me that there are some denominations that think they have replaced Israel even when the bible says those that call themselves Israel are ENEMIES lol.)**

Clearly Paul is preaching salvation now has come to the gentiles APART from Israel. Before Paul, gentiles could only be saved THROUGH Israel. Just one more proof that Paul's gospel is NOT Peter's gospel. This is the begging of understanding how to rightly divide the word of truth 2 Tim 2.15.

Also, if you don't only use a KJB you will never be able to see these truths because the other versions attack the mystery of Christ because it's the mystery that defeated Satan. 1 Cor 2.6-8 All Translations, except the KJB, use corrupted Alexandrian, Egypt manuscripts. Only the KJB uses the Antioch, majority, line of manuscripts.

Paul warns not to be "For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, ..."

as soon as pentacost came the unification with the body of Christ with the original apostles. receiving the holy spirit is what makes a person one with Him. and by the way paul wasnt the only apostle sent to the world.

He said to them: “It is not for you to know the times or dates the Father has set by his own authority.8But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit comes on you; and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth.”

it Just bagan at Jerusalem then they were commanded to go preach the gospel that was taught to them. paul as well. the body of Christ in its purest form is seen here

acts 2:42-47 "They devoted themselves to the apostles’ teaching and to fellowship, to the breaking of bread and to prayer. 43Everyone was filled with awe at the many wonders and signs performed by the apostles. 44All the believers were together and had everything in common. 45They sold property and possessions to give to anyone who had need. 46Every day they continued to meet together in the temple courts. They broke bread in their homes and ate together with glad and sincere hearts, 47praising God and enjoying the favor of all the people. And the Lord added to their number daily those who were being saved."


lest the body existed they werent saved as written Here, paul appears well after this, He just coined a phrase. He is no more or less than the other apostles, and they are all servants of the Lord.

 

[RomansToPhilemon]

as soon as pentacost came the unification with the body of Christ with the original apostles. receiving the holy spirit is what makes a person one with Him. and by the way paul wasnt the only apostle sent to the world.

He said to them: “It is not for you to know the times or dates the Father has set by his own authority.8But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit comes on you; and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth.”

it Just bagan at Jerusalem then they were commanded to go preach the gospel that was taught to them. paul as well. the body of Christ in its purest form is seen here

acts 2:42-47 "They devoted themselves to the apostles’ teaching and to fellowship, to the breaking of bread and to prayer. 43Everyone was filled with awe at the many wonders and signs performed by the apostles. 44All the believers were together and had everything in common. 45They sold property and possessions to give to anyone who had need. 46Every day they continued to meet together in the temple courts. They broke bread in their homes and ate together with glad and sincere hearts, 47praising God and enjoying the favor of all the people. And the Lord added to their number daily those who were being saved."


lest the body existed they werent saved as written Here, paul appears well after this, He just coined a phrase. He is no more or less than the other apostles, and they are all servants of the Lord.

Matthew 10.7
These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not: 6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

The body of Christ is in Acts 2? Paul says the body of Christ is a mystery. Romans 16.25, Eph 3.3-7, 1 Cor 2.6-8, Eph 3.9-10, Col 1.25-26, Gal 1.11-12, Titus 1.2

Also note that the people in Acts 2 started first back in the gospels with Christ. Let's read.

Hebrews 2.3-4
How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him; God also bearing them witness, both with signs and wonders, and with divers miracles, and gifts of the Holy Ghost, according to his own will?

The salvation FIRST began to be spoken by the Lord. Those people over in Acts 2 were added to that church. The body of Christ isn't even revealed yet. Paul's not even saved yet. The mystery is't even known yet. Had it been know, Christ would not have been crucified.

1 Cor 2.6-8
Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect: yet not the wisdom of this world, nor of the princes of this world, that come to nought: But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory: Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.

Let's compare that with Acts 3.21 where Peter states what he preaches WAS made known since the world began.

Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.

Romans 16.25 Paul states the exact opposite
Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began

Also consider Acts 2.16-19
But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel; And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams: And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy: And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke:

Remember that verse I mentioned above about Hebrews 2.4 where it says a salvation that first began to be spoken by the Lord. And was CONFIRMED onto them that heard it. Peter says that THIS IS THAT which was spoken by the prophet Joel. The out pouring of the holy Spirit was fulfilled that day. Nothing new started here. This was all in prophecy. Paul says what he preaches is a MYSTERY! Scripture cannot conflict like this.

Col 1.25-26
Whereof I am made a minister, according to the dispensation of God which is given to me for you, to fulfil the word of God; Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints:

Eph 3.3-6
How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; (as I wrote afore in few words, Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ) Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit;


Also you stated "lest the body existed they werent saved as written Here, paul appears well after this, He just coined a phrase. He is no more or less than the other apostles, and they are all servants of the Lord."

Paul says this " For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office:"

You are focusing on Paul. Paul focuses on his office appointed by Christ. That's not Paul magnifying his office. That's the holy Spirit words.

Wherefore I beseech you, be ye followers of me (Paul). 1 Cor 4.16
Be ye followers of me (Paul), even as I also am of Christ. 1 Cor 1.11
Brethren, be followers together of me, and mark them which walk so as ye have us for an ensample. Phil 3.17
Not because we have not power, but to make ourselves an ensample unto you to follow us. 2 Thess 3.9

There are many other examples. Paul says to follow him. Many Christians today say they follow Christ. Yet, Christ tells them to follow Paul if they want to follow after Christ.

Paul states he was the first person to be put into the body of Christ.

Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a pattern to them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting.

Them who believe HEREAFTER. Not before, but After. In Paul first, those who believe his gospel here after are members of the body of Christ. Something new is taking place here.

For I (Paul) delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures

 

[RomansToPhilemon]

No offence in what I am saying but for the most part the vast majority of folks at C.C. seem fairly set in their positions. I have been here since about 2012 and in that time I’ve rarely if ever seen anyone swap camps so to speak.

The thing about the youtube videos as for me(maybe others) is that it's just one more video among a bazillion of others that by now have already been posted. I have watched a few in times past but I kind of weigh it out as to how much data speed I'm gonna sacrifice verses how many days until the next payment. Again no offence but considering your effort it is only fair to tell the truth of it.

I am saying this because of your statement "learn something new" and thought I would point out that for the most part most here it seems probably researched the different camps,positions,ect. and made some sort of choice in the matter back in the 70's and 80's some even long before that. So if it's the Idea that D'ism in which ever form is something new that most have never herd of and your expecting a "wow! look at this!" type response you'll probably not get it unless of coarse someone is new to theology and trying to piece together what’s what so they can make a choice. Anyway if it's helpful to say it would be probably better to approach things as if you realize that many of those/us ect. have by now already studied most all of the material you are presenting.

I'm not here to convince people. I'm just here to share the mystery truths. Most won't heed to it. They haven't for 2000 years. Even in Paul's day they turned from his gospel. How much more so in our day? I would argue that much more!

 

[RomansToPhilemon]

The video teaches me how to WRONGLY divide the word of truth

Not an argument.

 

[RomansToPhilemon]

John/Yahanan 7:16-17, "Yahshua answered, them, and said: My doctrine is not Mine, but His Who sent Me. If any man will do His will, he will know about this teaching, whether it comes from YHWH, or whether I am speaking of My own authority."

John/Yahanan 12:48, "He who rejects Me, and does not follow My words has One Who judges him. The word that I have spoken, the same will be used to judge him in the last day."

2 John/Yahanan 1:9, "Everyone who goes on ahead and does not abide in the teaching of the Messiah, does not have Yah. Whoever abides in the teaching has both the Father and the Son."

Luke 6:46, "And why call Me; Ruler! Ruler! and do not the things which I say?"

John/Yahanan 4:25-26, "The woman said to Him; I know that the Messiah comes, and when He comes, He will tell us all things. Yahshua said to her: I am He speaking to you."

John/Yahanan 5:24, "Most certainly I tell you, he who hears (191) my word, and believes him who sent me, has eternal life, and doesn't come into judgment (2920), but has passed out of death into life."

John/Yahanan 10:16, "And I have other sheep that are not of this fold. I must bring them also, and they will listen to My voice. So there will be one flock, one Shepherd (4166 - poimén)."

John/Yahanan 14:23, "Yahshua answered, and said to him: If a man loves Me, he will keep My teachings and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our home with him."

Mat 28:20, “Teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you. And lo, I am with you always, to the end of the age."

Mat 24:35, “Heaven and earth may pass away, but My teachings will not pass away.”

1 Tim 1.6-7
From which some having swerved have turned aside unto vain jangling; Desiring to be teachers of the law; understanding neither what they say, nor whereof they affirm.

1 Titus 1.10For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers, specially they of the circumcision: Whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole houses, teaching things which they ought not, for filthy lucre’s sake.

2 Peter 3.15-16
And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

 

[iamsoandso]

I'm not here to convince people. I'm just here to share the mystery truths. Most won't heed to it. They haven't for 2000 years. Even in Paul's day they turned from his gospel. How much more so in our day? I would argue that much more!

Which is great it is always good to present to people the truth/thruth's, I notice you word this "share the mystery truth's" which is so in the many years I myself looked into dispensationism one of the hardest positions to defend was that Paul was the only one to receive the mystery and why is as fast as I said it I was shown that not only did Paul receive the mystery/mysteries but that also John also received the explanation of a great many mysteries in the Revelation. i.e. "I will shew thee the mystery"ect... Anyway I meant no offence but rather in a form of help.

 

[Enow]

Here is a two part series on the book of Acts proving that the body of Christ does not and cannot start before Paul is saved.

I believe the day of Pentecost was when the disciples were saved and the day the church began as they had preached to devout Jews from all nations on that day in Christ winning converts through them.

I understand that they had to preach to the nation of Israel first before God judged Israel as rejecting the chief cornerstone before the gospel was permitted to go to the Gentiles, but the church did began at Pentecost before Paul was saved.

 

[followjesus]

Matthew 10.7
These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not: 6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

The body of Christ is in Acts 2? Paul says the body of Christ is a mystery. Romans 16.25, Eph 3.3-7, 1 Cor 2.6-8, Eph 3.9-10, Col 1.25-26, Gal 1.11-12, Titus 1.2

Also note that the people in Acts 2 started first back in the gospels with Christ. Let's read.

Hebrews 2.3-4
How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him; God also bearing them witness, both with signs and wonders, and with divers miracles, and gifts of the Holy Ghost, according to his own will?

The salvation FIRST began to be spoken by the Lord. Those people over in Acts 2 were added to that church. The body of Christ isn't even revealed yet. Paul's not even saved yet. The mystery is't even known yet. Had it been know, Christ would not have been crucified.

1 Cor 2.6-8
Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect: yet not the wisdom of this world, nor of the princes of this world, that come to nought: But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory: Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.

Let's compare that with Acts 3.21 where Peter states what he preaches WAS made known since the world began.

Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.

Romans 16.25 Paul states the exact opposite
Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began

Also consider Acts 2.16-19
But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel; And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams: And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy: And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke:

Remember that verse I mentioned above about Hebrews 2.4 where it says a salvation that first began to be spoken by the Lord. And was CONFIRMED onto them that heard it. Peter says that THIS IS THAT which was spoken by the prophet Joel. The out pouring of the holy Spirit was fulfilled that day. Nothing new started here. This was all in prophecy. Paul says what he preaches is a MYSTERY! Scripture cannot conflict like this.

Col 1.25-26
Whereof I am made a minister, according to the dispensation of God which is given to me for you, to fulfil the word of God; Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints:

Eph 3.3-6
How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; (as I wrote afore in few words, Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ) Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit;


Also you stated "lest the body existed they werent saved as written Here, paul appears well after this, He just coined a phrase. He is no more or less than the other apostles, and they are all servants of the Lord."

Paul says this " For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office:"

You are focusing on Paul. Paul focuses on his office appointed by Christ. That's not Paul magnifying his office. That's the holy Spirit words.

Wherefore I beseech you, be ye followers of me (Paul). 1 Cor 4.16
Be ye followers of me (Paul), even as I also am of Christ. 1 Cor 1.11
Brethren, be followers together of me, and mark them which walk so as ye have us for an ensample. Phil 3.17
Not because we have not power, but to make ourselves an ensample unto you to follow us. 2 Thess 3.9

There are many other examples. Paul says to follow him. Many Christians today say they follow Christ. Yet, Christ tells them to follow Paul if they want to follow after Christ.

Paul states he was the first person to be put into the body of Christ.

Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a pattern to them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting.

Them who believe HEREAFTER. Not before, but After. In Paul first, those who believe his gospel here after are members of the body of Christ. Something new is taking place here.

For I (Paul) delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures

(matthew 28:18-20)

but can i ask you a simple question? is the church considered the body of Christ?

 

[followjesus]

(matthew 28:18-20)

but can i ask you a simple question? is the church considered the body of Christ?

to me rather this really kind of says what im saying

acts 9: 1-5 "And Saul, yet breathing out threatenings and slaughter against the disciples of the Lord, went unto the high priest, 2And desired of him letters to Damascus to the synagogues, that if he found any of this way, whether they were men or women, he might bring them bound unto Jerusalem. 3And as he journeyed, he came near Damascus: and suddenly there shined round about him a light from heaven: 4And he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? 5And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest: it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks. "


Saul is persecuting His disciples, and Jesus says " why do you persecute me?...and I am Jesus who you are persecuting"

rather than a huge circle would you agree that this is pretty straight forward that He is persecuting "the body of Christ" who would be the disciples or the " church" ? im not looking to argue at all, and if you dont see it the same im okay with it, i just feel that its pretty clear that to be the body of Christ, happens when the spirit is given. anyways that kind of is what i myself see on this subject, paul was already persecuting the body of Christ before He was converted.

 

[Chester]

How so. The verse says

And he answering said unto him, Lord, let it alone this year also, till I shall dig about it, and dung it: And if it bear fruit, well: and if not, then after that thou shalt cut it down.

You clearly didn't watch the video. Watch it and learn something new!

LOL! The tried and true message of salvation through Jesus Christ is good enough for me. I don't need "new" additions. Call me old and outdated and ignorant - that is fine! I have found the truth - have sold my all for the kingdom - and will stick by the Word of God and its proper clear interpretations - not those on your videos!