This thread is for showing why the KJV is better than the other Bibles.
I contend that because of John 16:13 that testifies in ALL Bibles that the Holy Spirit cannot speak for Himself, but speaks what He hears, that Romans 8:26-27 in all modern Bibles have it wrong when it implies that the Holy Spirit can give His own intercessions all by Himself. These two references oppose each other in truth even if you were to compare all modern Bibles of what John 16:13 says that the Holy Spirit cannot speak on His own accord, or on His own authority or His own words.
Therefore a re examining of Romans 8:26-27 with the KJV is in order for the truth in His words to line up with John 16:13.
Romans 8:[SUP]26 [/SUP]Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
The phrase "with groanings which cannot be uttered" means no sound is being made at all. You cannot hear the groanings even. The Greek text "alaletos" means unspeakable and unutterable; meaning not coming out of the mouth.
The use of the term "itself" rather than "Himself" is being used because the Holy Spirit is serving as a means by which His unspeakable intercessions is being known to God the Father by. That is explained in verse 27 below as Another Person that searches our hearts is the same One that knows the mind of the Spirit is how the Spirit's unspeakable intercessions are known to God the Father by.
[SUP]27 [/SUP]And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.
Making that reference to He Who searches our heats lines up with scripture as to Who that "He" is.
Hebrews 4:[SUP]12[/SUP]For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.13Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do.[SUP]14 [/SUP]Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our profession.
Now the conclusion of Romans 8:27 "because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God." lines up with the Son of God being the only Mediator between God & men, specified as only the man Christ Jesus; 1 Timothy 2:5
Why is that important? Why can only the Son gives His intercessions, our intercessions, and the Spirit's intercessions to God the Father? Because when the Father says "Yes" to any of those intercessions, the Son answers the prayer so that the Father may be glorified in the Son for answered prayers and receive thanks in Jesus's name.
John 14:[SUP]6 [/SUP]Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.....[SUP]13 [/SUP]And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.[SUP]14 [/SUP]If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.
As much as wayward believers use the errant translation of Romans 8:26-27 to imply that the Holy Spirit does use God's gift of tongues as a prayer language in vain & profane babbling nonsense, having the right Bible proves it does not say that in the KJV when read with His wisdom in the meaning of His words when Romans 8:27 is about the Son of God.
This is one of the many reasons why the KJV is better to see the truth in His words of Romans 8:26-27 as lining up with the truth in His words in John 16:13 since scripture cannot go against scripture so as to keep the faith which is the good fight while many wayward believers depart from faith in Jesus Christ to seek to receive another baptism with the Holy Ghost with evidence of tongues which never comes with interpretation because this other calling & tongue is not of Him.
I contend that because of John 16:13 that testifies in ALL Bibles that the Holy Spirit cannot speak for Himself, but speaks what He hears, that Romans 8:26-27 in all modern Bibles have it wrong when it implies that the Holy Spirit can give His own intercessions all by Himself. These two references oppose each other in truth even if you were to compare all modern Bibles of what John 16:13 says that the Holy Spirit cannot speak on His own accord, or on His own authority or His own words.
Therefore a re examining of Romans 8:26-27 with the KJV is in order for the truth in His words to line up with John 16:13.
Romans 8:[SUP]26 [/SUP]Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
The phrase "with groanings which cannot be uttered" means no sound is being made at all. You cannot hear the groanings even. The Greek text "alaletos" means unspeakable and unutterable; meaning not coming out of the mouth.
The use of the term "itself" rather than "Himself" is being used because the Holy Spirit is serving as a means by which His unspeakable intercessions is being known to God the Father by. That is explained in verse 27 below as Another Person that searches our hearts is the same One that knows the mind of the Spirit is how the Spirit's unspeakable intercessions are known to God the Father by.
[SUP]27 [/SUP]And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.
Making that reference to He Who searches our heats lines up with scripture as to Who that "He" is.
Hebrews 4:[SUP]12[/SUP]For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.13Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do.[SUP]14 [/SUP]Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our profession.
Now the conclusion of Romans 8:27 "because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God." lines up with the Son of God being the only Mediator between God & men, specified as only the man Christ Jesus; 1 Timothy 2:5
Why is that important? Why can only the Son gives His intercessions, our intercessions, and the Spirit's intercessions to God the Father? Because when the Father says "Yes" to any of those intercessions, the Son answers the prayer so that the Father may be glorified in the Son for answered prayers and receive thanks in Jesus's name.
John 14:[SUP]6 [/SUP]Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.....[SUP]13 [/SUP]And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.[SUP]14 [/SUP]If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.
As much as wayward believers use the errant translation of Romans 8:26-27 to imply that the Holy Spirit does use God's gift of tongues as a prayer language in vain & profane babbling nonsense, having the right Bible proves it does not say that in the KJV when read with His wisdom in the meaning of His words when Romans 8:27 is about the Son of God.
This is one of the many reasons why the KJV is better to see the truth in His words of Romans 8:26-27 as lining up with the truth in His words in John 16:13 since scripture cannot go against scripture so as to keep the faith which is the good fight while many wayward believers depart from faith in Jesus Christ to seek to receive another baptism with the Holy Ghost with evidence of tongues which never comes with interpretation because this other calling & tongue is not of Him.
