"without faith it's impossible to please God." (Heb 11.6)
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I would offer first and foremost that if we walk by faith we must follow His precepts or foot steps
2Corinthians 4:18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.
In that way it is the unseen work of God by which we can believe God as two walking together..
I think John gives us some insight as to how we do perform it.
Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God? Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent. Joh 6:28-29
Without His faith working in us no man can please God .This faith is not of our own selves lest any man boast. Therefore we need the faith of Christ if we are going to believe God in order to please Him ; for it is God who works in to both will and do His good pleasure.
Because we are yoked with Him (Christ in us) our burden is lighter we can if we walk by faith do all things he wills without murmuring.
For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure. Do all things without murmurings and disputings: Phi 2:13
Faith is a work as a labor of His love. We cannot separate His love from the work He performs in us. If He has begun the good work of faith in us, as the author thereof He will finish it as the perfecter. The Alfa and Omega.as we are informed in Philippians 1, He is our confidence.
Philippians 1:6 Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:
2Corinthians 4:18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.
In that way it is the unseen work of God by which we can believe God as two walking together..
I think John gives us some insight as to how we do perform it.
Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God? Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent. Joh 6:28-29
Without His faith working in us no man can please God .This faith is not of our own selves lest any man boast. Therefore we need the faith of Christ if we are going to believe God in order to please Him ; for it is God who works in to both will and do His good pleasure.
Because we are yoked with Him (Christ in us) our burden is lighter we can if we walk by faith do all things he wills without murmuring.
For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure. Do all things without murmurings and disputings: Phi 2:13
Faith is a work as a labor of His love. We cannot separate His love from the work He performs in us. If He has begun the good work of faith in us, as the author thereof He will finish it as the perfecter. The Alfa and Omega.as we are informed in Philippians 1, He is our confidence.
Philippians 1:6 Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:
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It becomes "whose faith", the faith of Christ or that of men (our own selves) ? And which direction.. us towards Him (our faith) or His towards us (His faith)?
It would seem the father of lies would try and make it all one way us towards Him .Therefore making the things of God and those of men as the same authority and in doing so offend our God. by denying His faith.
The faith of Christ that comes from hearing God is the first work or labor of His love that works in us so that we can believe,.
If we have begun with the hearing of faith He will finish that good work in us..
O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you?This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?Have ye suffered so many things in vain? if it be yet in vain.He therefore that ministereth to you the Spirit, and worketh miracles among you, doeth he it by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? Gal 3:1-5
If we would have Christ faith in respect to our own selves or others like the Nicolaitanes, we must again do the first works (believe God) and not our own selves. The Nicolaitanes they had left their first love (believe God) as He give us the faith to make it possible to please Him
I think that is what was happening in Revelation men were saying we need men to teach us, therefore leaving their first love according to the same (Christ's) spirit of faith as it is written ..
I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars: And hast borne, and hast patience, and for my name's sake hast laboured, and hast not fainted.Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, “because thou hast left thy first love”(beliving God) .Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works;(believe God as he works in the believer to both will and do His good pleasure) or or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent. But this thou hast, that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitanes, which I also hate.He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; (not what the false apostles like Nicolos teach) To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God. Rev 2:2
It would seem the father of lies would try and make it all one way us towards Him .Therefore making the things of God and those of men as the same authority and in doing so offend our God. by denying His faith.
The faith of Christ that comes from hearing God is the first work or labor of His love that works in us so that we can believe,.
If we have begun with the hearing of faith He will finish that good work in us..
O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you?This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?Have ye suffered so many things in vain? if it be yet in vain.He therefore that ministereth to you the Spirit, and worketh miracles among you, doeth he it by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? Gal 3:1-5
If we would have Christ faith in respect to our own selves or others like the Nicolaitanes, we must again do the first works (believe God) and not our own selves. The Nicolaitanes they had left their first love (believe God) as He give us the faith to make it possible to please Him
I think that is what was happening in Revelation men were saying we need men to teach us, therefore leaving their first love according to the same (Christ's) spirit of faith as it is written ..
I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars: And hast borne, and hast patience, and for my name's sake hast laboured, and hast not fainted.Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, “because thou hast left thy first love”(beliving God) .Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works;(believe God as he works in the believer to both will and do His good pleasure) or or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent. But this thou hast, that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitanes, which I also hate.He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; (not what the false apostles like Nicolos teach) To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God. Rev 2:2
Faith of Abraham:
Romans 3 [NLT]:
16 So the promise is received by faith. It is given as a free gift. And we are all certain to receive it, whether or not we live according to the law of Moses, if we have faith like Abraham’s. For Abraham is the father of all who believe.
17 That is what the Scriptures mean when God told him, “I have made you the father of many nations.” This happened because Abraham believed in the God who brings the dead back to life and who creates new things out of nothing.
18 Even when there was no reason for hope, Abraham kept hoping—believing that he would become the father of many nations. For God had said to him, “That’s how many descendants you will have!”
19 And Abraham’s faith did not weaken, even though, at about 100 years of age, he figured his body was as good as dead—and so was Sarah’s womb.
20 Abraham never wavered in believing God’s promise. In fact, his faith grew stronger, and in this he brought glory to God.
21 He was fully convinced that God is able to do whatever he promises.
22 And because of Abraham’s faith, God counted him as righteous.
23 And when God counted him as righteous, it wasn’t just for Abraham’s benefit. It was recorded
24 for our benefit, too, assuring us that God will also count us as righteous if we believe in him, the one who raised Jesus our Lord from the dead.
25 He was handed over to die because of our sins, and he was raised to life to make us right with God.
Romans 3 [NLT]:
16 So the promise is received by faith. It is given as a free gift. And we are all certain to receive it, whether or not we live according to the law of Moses, if we have faith like Abraham’s. For Abraham is the father of all who believe.
17 That is what the Scriptures mean when God told him, “I have made you the father of many nations.” This happened because Abraham believed in the God who brings the dead back to life and who creates new things out of nothing.
18 Even when there was no reason for hope, Abraham kept hoping—believing that he would become the father of many nations. For God had said to him, “That’s how many descendants you will have!”
19 And Abraham’s faith did not weaken, even though, at about 100 years of age, he figured his body was as good as dead—and so was Sarah’s womb.
20 Abraham never wavered in believing God’s promise. In fact, his faith grew stronger, and in this he brought glory to God.
21 He was fully convinced that God is able to do whatever he promises.
22 And because of Abraham’s faith, God counted him as righteous.
23 And when God counted him as righteous, it wasn’t just for Abraham’s benefit. It was recorded
24 for our benefit, too, assuring us that God will also count us as righteous if we believe in him, the one who raised Jesus our Lord from the dead.
25 He was handed over to die because of our sins, and he was raised to life to make us right with God.
***faith produces obedience---check out Hebrews 11 which shows those having faith doing things they are commanded to do---Abraham journeyed----Noah built----Abel offered---Abraham offered also----Hebrews 11:33-35 Who through faith subdued kingdoms, wrought righteousness, obtained promises, stopped the mouths of lions, Quenched the violence of fire, escaped the edge of the sword, out of weakness were made strong, waxed valiant in fight, turned to flight the armies of the aliens. Women received their dead raised to life again... ect.---even death and persecution is overcome by faith...
I firmly believe it's ALL about trusting in God's LOVE for us by faith. The whole reason He sent Jesus was because of His Love. That it pleases God when we believe by faith He realllly loves us without us doing anything to deserve it. The Bible says we love God because He first loved us. God commended His love towards us that while we were yet sinners Christ died for us.
God has done so much for us but in our human-ness we are all excited at one moment but soon enough the world with it's issues comes in and it's a battle between the flesh and the Spirit to see and believe His love and provision. Yet even in this when we forget to remember Him He still loves us as if we did not forget. How is that??!! Grace.
He even says He remembers our frame that we are but dust. So He understands that we are susceptible to weaknesses being the dust that we are. He also has provided all we need to succeed in Christ. I believe He is so pleased when we see Jesus as our portion. Somehow when we acknowledge the Son as our single and ONLY means of standing, God the Father is reallllly pleased. Daring to believe the promises are ours all because of Jesus even in the face of all that seems to contradict Him.
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Every other religion come after the philosophies of men as oral traditions thereof. Not according to God’s law the author who did the texting written with the finger of God. .
The difference is the things of God are not the things of men. Those of men offend the things of God . Natural man’s faith of things not seen comes from the imagination of their hearts they have no other source of faith except by what which the eyes see(the lust of the eye) after the rudiments of this world (the lust of the flesh)dead in its trespasses and sin .
Just as in the same way a body of flesh without the spirit essence of life shows a person is dead without a living Hope in a Living God the same applies to the faith that worked in Abraham (not of his own self) .
When looking at faith we understand that faith without works is dead.( Impossible to separate.)
It would be like our faithful Creator believing something would become sight and working according to that faith (belief) therefore exercising or working it out, He said; let there be light and there was none.
The faith that worked in Abraham in respect to that parable was the faith of Christ .It worked in Abraham to both to will according to the word of God and do the will as imputed righteousness.
Abraham whose is used to typify our father in heaven as the father of many nation(denomination) was justified by work that come from faith but not that of Abraham’s own selves, lest he like any other man could boast.. There we see that the faith of Christ that worked in Abraham and by that work of Christ, Christ's faith was made complete/perfect.
If a person does the will of God he is not rewarded for it it’s what is required of a believer according to Gods original plan .
Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar? Seest thou how faith(Christ’s) wrought with his (Christ’s)works, and by works(Christ’s) was faith (Christ’s) made perfect? Jam 2:21
Nothing is attributed to Abraham.
Because faith is a work if we were to have the faith of Christ that works in us in respect to our own selves or that of Abraham, the scriptures inform us we are blaspheming the holy name of God.
Blasphemy is simply to contribute the work of one to another. It’s a how the faith/works chapter begins with a warning not to have Christ’s work of faith, that works in us to both will and do the good pleasure of God in respect to persons and again to include Abraham who did walk by the faith of Christ that worked in Abraham, not from or of Abraham .
Jam 2:1 My brethren, have not the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory, with respect of persons.
Jam 2:7 Do not they blaspheme that worthy name by the which ye are called?
The difference is the things of God are not the things of men. Those of men offend the things of God . Natural man’s faith of things not seen comes from the imagination of their hearts they have no other source of faith except by what which the eyes see(the lust of the eye) after the rudiments of this world (the lust of the flesh)dead in its trespasses and sin .
Just as in the same way a body of flesh without the spirit essence of life shows a person is dead without a living Hope in a Living God the same applies to the faith that worked in Abraham (not of his own self) .
When looking at faith we understand that faith without works is dead.( Impossible to separate.)
It would be like our faithful Creator believing something would become sight and working according to that faith (belief) therefore exercising or working it out, He said; let there be light and there was none.
The faith that worked in Abraham in respect to that parable was the faith of Christ .It worked in Abraham to both to will according to the word of God and do the will as imputed righteousness.
Abraham whose is used to typify our father in heaven as the father of many nation(denomination) was justified by work that come from faith but not that of Abraham’s own selves, lest he like any other man could boast.. There we see that the faith of Christ that worked in Abraham and by that work of Christ, Christ's faith was made complete/perfect.
If a person does the will of God he is not rewarded for it it’s what is required of a believer according to Gods original plan .
Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar? Seest thou how faith(Christ’s) wrought with his (Christ’s)works, and by works(Christ’s) was faith (Christ’s) made perfect? Jam 2:21
Nothing is attributed to Abraham.
Because faith is a work if we were to have the faith of Christ that works in us in respect to our own selves or that of Abraham, the scriptures inform us we are blaspheming the holy name of God.
Blasphemy is simply to contribute the work of one to another. It’s a how the faith/works chapter begins with a warning not to have Christ’s work of faith, that works in us to both will and do the good pleasure of God in respect to persons and again to include Abraham who did walk by the faith of Christ that worked in Abraham, not from or of Abraham .
Jam 2:1 My brethren, have not the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory, with respect of persons.
Jam 2:7 Do not they blaspheme that worthy name by the which ye are called?
It is based on faith,for we have to believe in a kingdom we cannot see,for if we could see the kingdom,we would only believe,because we seen it,but there is evidence that it does exist without actually seeing it.
Heb 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
Faith is the evidence of things not seen,and by the Spirit we can see the kingdom spiritually,and know it does exist,but we have to believe in a kingdom we cannot see to begin our journey to see the kingdom spiritually,by the invisible things God does,and relates to us.
1Co 2:9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.
1Co 2:10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.
1Co 2:11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.
1Co 2:12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.
1Co 2:13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
1Co 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
1Co 2:15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.
1Co 2:16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.
We have to have faith and believe in a kingdom we cannot see,for if we could see it with the natural eye,we would only believe because we seen it,and faith is the evidence of things not seen,and eye hath not seen,nor ear heard,neither have entered into the heart of man,the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things,yea,the deep things of God.
By the Spirit the evidence not seen is revealed to us,but what led us up to the point of having the Spirit to have the kingdom further revealed to us,is having faith to believe,by the word of God,which has prophesy,that testifies that God is true,creation testifies there is a God,and loves people,people's lives changed for the better,healings,and things of that nature.
Joh 20:26 And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: then came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace be unto you.
Joh 20:27 Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.
Joh 20:28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.
Joh 20:29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.
Blessed is he that has not seen Jesus,but still believes,because our salvation is based on faith,for if people seen Jesus they would only believe because they seen Him,but we have evidence it is true to confess Christ,and when we receive the Spirit then the evidence is furthered.
The atheist wants proof that God exists,which will never come,and they will not believe the evidence put forth,mainly creation testifies there is a God that loves people,so they are without excuse,and the word of God,which God said He proves He is the one true God,by showing the end from the beginning,which He showed the whole history of mankind,that no other religion or person can do.
Rom 8:16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God.
Of course the saint of God had faith before receiving the Spirit,by the natural witnesses that testify that God is true,but the Spirit furthers our faith by revealing the kingdom to us spiritually.
We have to have faith to believe in a kingdom that we cannot see with the naked eye,and believe in a God we cannot see with the naked eye,but faith is the evidence of things not seen,so of course we can believe without seeing,for there will be evidence that God does exist,and when we receive the Spirit,then the evidence is furthered to us giving us a more stronghold in faith.
Heb 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
Faith is the evidence of things not seen,and by the Spirit we can see the kingdom spiritually,and know it does exist,but we have to believe in a kingdom we cannot see to begin our journey to see the kingdom spiritually,by the invisible things God does,and relates to us.
1Co 2:9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.
1Co 2:10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.
1Co 2:11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.
1Co 2:12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.
1Co 2:13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
1Co 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
1Co 2:15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.
1Co 2:16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.
We have to have faith and believe in a kingdom we cannot see,for if we could see it with the natural eye,we would only believe because we seen it,and faith is the evidence of things not seen,and eye hath not seen,nor ear heard,neither have entered into the heart of man,the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things,yea,the deep things of God.
By the Spirit the evidence not seen is revealed to us,but what led us up to the point of having the Spirit to have the kingdom further revealed to us,is having faith to believe,by the word of God,which has prophesy,that testifies that God is true,creation testifies there is a God,and loves people,people's lives changed for the better,healings,and things of that nature.
Joh 20:26 And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: then came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace be unto you.
Joh 20:27 Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.
Joh 20:28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.
Joh 20:29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.
Blessed is he that has not seen Jesus,but still believes,because our salvation is based on faith,for if people seen Jesus they would only believe because they seen Him,but we have evidence it is true to confess Christ,and when we receive the Spirit then the evidence is furthered.
The atheist wants proof that God exists,which will never come,and they will not believe the evidence put forth,mainly creation testifies there is a God that loves people,so they are without excuse,and the word of God,which God said He proves He is the one true God,by showing the end from the beginning,which He showed the whole history of mankind,that no other religion or person can do.
Rom 8:16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God.
Of course the saint of God had faith before receiving the Spirit,by the natural witnesses that testify that God is true,but the Spirit furthers our faith by revealing the kingdom to us spiritually.
We have to have faith to believe in a kingdom that we cannot see with the naked eye,and believe in a God we cannot see with the naked eye,but faith is the evidence of things not seen,so of course we can believe without seeing,for there will be evidence that God does exist,and when we receive the Spirit,then the evidence is furthered to us giving us a more stronghold in faith.
1. Your profile contains one of the longest, and most detailed, doctrinal statements I have ever seen.
2. That means you do not have any genuine questions about a rudimentary doctrine such as faith.
3. So... why are you here asking this question, if you don't have a question?
Please don't waste everyone's time by asking a question you don't really have,
just to take everyone through a dialectical exercise to prove some point.
It's EXTREMELY condescending.
It's extremely condescending, disingenuous, and disrespectful of everyone's time.
2. That means you do not have any genuine questions about a rudimentary doctrine such as faith.
3. So... why are you here asking this question, if you don't have a question?
Please don't waste everyone's time by asking a question you don't really have,
just to take everyone through a dialectical exercise to prove some point.
It's EXTREMELY condescending.
It's extremely condescending, disingenuous, and disrespectful of everyone's time.
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Man can't perceive GOD with the flesh,no man has seen GOD.GOD Is a SPIRIT.
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There Is a lion standing at the side and you can see the lion,GOD says,come and get what I have told you you can have but you can't see GOD,you have to believe.
Now you can see the lion though ,and every time you start to take a step,the lion roars,are you going to keep your focus on GOD or are you going to begin to sink like Peter did.
Faith pleases GOD.
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There Is a lion standing at the side and you can see the lion,GOD says,come and get what I have told you you can have but you can't see GOD,you have to believe.
Now you can see the lion though ,and every time you start to take a step,the lion roars,are you going to keep your focus on GOD or are you going to begin to sink like Peter did.
Faith pleases GOD.
if it was so easy to trust in Christ alone, and lay your whole eternity on the bases of things not seen (hope)
then more people would do it.. But as scripture says, that gate is narrow, and few enter in
It is kind of insightful. Seeing what people think about faith.
It seems like we all have different thoughts on what all these 'biblical' terms are.
I think its ok to ask questions that you already know the answer to. Sometimes you get a surprise and receive a point of view that you never considered.
It seems like we all have different thoughts on what all these 'biblical' terms are.
I think its ok to ask questions that you already know the answer to. Sometimes you get a surprise and receive a point of view that you never considered.