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Ask Dcon that question..........for the first year and a half I was here I argued with him about this idea of OSAS and Grace, Grace, nothing but Grace.........and posted many of the same Scriptures he posted in the OP, as well as many, many others, and he and his guys rejected all of them believing that once a person was saved any sins committed after salvation were already forgiven, and they did not need to repent and ask forgiveness. So ask him.
I know what repentance is.......it is merely turning away from sin and back to God, it is NOT asking forgiveness for the sin one committed and had to repent of.
You guys is nothing more than a statement.............don't like that one, then I'll use you OSAS'ers
As for bordering on lying.............did you not read the OP? If so, then PLEASE ASK D that question. Here, let me refresh your memory........
For those who say that we advocate a wicked sinful lifestyle because we acknowledge these scriptures.....this is false, misleading and border line lying.........!
Now, let me see you ask D that question
I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.
1 John 1:8
If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. 17For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
No, that is just your interpretation of Hebrews...........and, it was YOU who called people liars FIRST.
You think you can publically call me and the millions of believers of the Church of God Reformation Movement liars on a Public Forum AND NOT be called out for it?
You did this stuff for the first year and a half I was here on CC. You and one other.........which is why the both of you stayed on my Ignore List for well over a year............lately you backed off from such posts as the OP, but I see you are back to your old tricks.
You may be able to fool some people here with your "back door" slap in the face of those who do not subscribe to the OSAS
theology, but I have known you too long, and know your antics. You both said and implied what I posted.
NOW..........show me in your OP where you stated that when a Believer sins, they must repent and ask for forgiveness for such sin, and I will apologize. FAILING THAT.........I demand you apologize to the millions of believers of the Church of God Reformation Movement that you called liars.
Moses was also a great man of God, chosen of God and by God to deliver the Israelites from Egypt sinned in the desert when he struck the rock twice in anger....He was not allowed to enter the promise land because of his sin, but never lost his salvation..He appears on the Mount of Transfiguration with JESUS and Elijah....notice his sin....
And the LORD spake unto Moses and Aaron, Because ye believed me not, to sanctify me in the eyes of the children of Israel, therefore ye shall not bring this congregation into the land which I have given them.
If not of faith it is sin!
Your second point is crass and uncalled for.
Your 3rd point is sarky but having said that you have made a valid point. I didn't notice is so I'm sorry.
So I agree with you and I ask DC the same.
Help me to be the person my dog thinks I am.
Back to your old ways. That is what is truly sad about all of this...........
Prove verbatim where I ever said what you implied and said in your OP.
One of your favorite tricks from the past. Make an inflammatory comment, get called on it, twist it around and demand others prove things.......
I wasted a year and a half arguing with you about all of this junk........so don't hold your breath believing I will wast another year and a half doing so again...........you just ain't worth it.
Hey DC, does your Bible include in John 3:16 that whoever no longer sins shall have everlasting life? Mine neither.
Fear not, little flock, for it is God's good pleasure to give you the Kingdom.
Good, you need to stock up on 'em...............through with you again..............you just are not truthful and I have spent years arguing you about this junk...........
BTW.........it is "I could NOT care less." Saying I could CARE less is saying you actually CARE........and both you and I know you don't give a hoot, never have.............so back you go where you belong