Those Who Deny Sin in a Believer

[Stephen63]

It seems to me it's time for some to walk away..... I know, can't believe I just said that, right?

You know it's bad when I want no part of it.

 

[p_rehbein]

D

I prayed for most of the night, and have this to tell you.

I prayed to God that He allow me to be present near Christ when you appear before Him on the day of Atonement. I want to be there, for when I see you approaching, I will turn to Christ and say: "That's him Lord, I ask You to remember what You prayed to the Father when You were on the Cross........Father forgive them, for they know not what they do. This is my prayer to you Lord, please forgive him, for he knew not what he was doing."

I sincerely hope He grants me this plea.

However, until that time comes, unless you admit your sin and ask forgiveness for slandering the millions of Members of the Church of God Reformation Movement, I will neither speak to you, or even recognize your very existence. Should God open your eyes and heart to understanding your sin against millions of His children, and you do ask for forgiveness, I will gladly forgive you, and praise God!

Through prayer, I have come to believe you do not actually know the gravity of the sin you committed against so very many of His children, and that is truly a sad thing. You are a Brother in Arms, and because of that, I have always bent over backwards to give you far more grace from me for the terrible things you say about people who disagree with your ideology. Far more than I would extend to any other here.

I have no idea if the Holy Spirit will move upon you or not, but I assure you this, even if God does not grant my request, on that day of Atonement, your words will be read to you, and you will answer for them. That is what frightens me, and why I pray that I am allowed to be there to ask Christ to forgive your words against His children.

Father Lord, this is my plea to You in the name of Jesus Christ..............

 

[BillG]

D

I prayed for most of the night, and have this to tell you.

I prayed to God that He allow me to be present near Christ when you appear before Him on the day of Atonement. I want to be there, for when I see you approaching, I will turn to Christ and say: "That's him Lord, I ask You to remember what You prayed to the Father when You were on the Cross........Father forgive them, for they know not what they do. This is my prayer to you Lord, please forgive him, for he knew not what he was doing."

I sincerely hope He grants me this plea.

However, until that time comes, unless you admit your sin and ask forgiveness for slandering the millions of Members of the Church of God Reformation Movement, I will neither speak to you, or even recognize your very existence. Should God open your eyes and heart to understanding your sin against millions of His children, and you do ask for forgiveness, I will gladly forgive you, and praise God!

Through prayer, I have come to believe you do not actually know the gravity of the sin you committed against so very many of His children, and that is truly a sad thing. You are a Brother in Arms, and because of that, I have always bent over backwards to give you far more grace from me for the terrible things you say about people who disagree with your ideology. Far more than I would extend to any other here.

I have no idea if the Holy Spirit will move upon you or not, but I assure you this, even if God does not grant my request, on that day of Atonement, your words will be read to you, and you will answer for them. That is what frightens me, and why I pray that I am allowed to be there to ask Christ to forgive your words against His children.

Father Lord, this is my plea to You in the name of Jesus Christ..............

So I assume you do not believe the following applies

1 Corinthians 3:11-15 (NKJV)
11 For no other foundation can anyone lay than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. 12 Now if anyone builds on this foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw, 13 each one's work will become clear; for the Day will declare it, because it will be revealed by fire; and the fire will test each one's work, of what sort it is. 14 If anyone's work which he has built on it endures, he will receive a reward. 15 If anyone's work is burned, he will suffer loss; but he himself will be saved, yet so as through fire.

I have lost the plot a little in this thread.

Maybe you enlighten me as to what you are getting upset about, so much so you needed to post your prayer.

 

[Sirk]

Someone keeps praying in public a little too much. Who they trying to impress?

 

[PeterJens]

Someone keeps praying in public a little too much. Who they trying to impress?

We are speaking here before our King, as a witness to His cross and His gospel,
so rightly we should pray to who He is.

 

[dcontroversal]

So, just wondering here.............did you post this same comment to Dconn? It was HE who FIRST DEMANDED an apology, I was just parroting his silly comment...........if you did not post this same comment to him, WHY NOT?

Is there a double standard at work here? Hmm.............

and, I love this part...........

Originally Posted by blue_ladybug

You DEMAND? Seriously? Why not just humbly ASK for an apology, instead of DEMANDING one?





Not to mention that I never did what he accused me of....no apology required!




You did EXACTLY what I said you did D and you know it..........you JUST DIDN'T THINK you would get called out on it.

Go read the OP again....Your assumption and accusation falls way short.....

 

[Sirk]

"And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full.

 

[dcontroversal]

BTW Dman, you need to get with your buddy Grateful.......he has a thread going where he says a person DOES NOT have to repent and ASK FOR FORGIVENESS for their sins AFTER THE FIRST TIME...........

Mayhaps you can "school" him a wee bit eh?

too............too.......funny


Oh, and for not saying what I said you did.........

SIMPLE QUESTION

A person believes that they can turn from God, sin, and refuse to repent and ask forgiveness, and lose their salvation if they die in their unrepentant state.....................

Are they false teachers and borderline liars?

YES

NO

simple question

So what...I have never said nor implied what YOU said and accused me of in your first post in this thread.....how come you took me off blocked mode and why are you addressing me?

 

[dcontroversal]

Yeah i do cause you know and i know when the battle gets hard the tough get going...

shame you forgot your soldier mentality when you over exaggerated my toughness..

What are you talking about bro.....no clue

 

[BillG]

We are speaking here before our King, as a witness to His cross and His gospel,
so rightly we should pray to who He is.

As long as it is edifying to our brothers/sisters and is relevant and glorifies Christ then yes.

If not then it's best one keeps ones mouth firmly shut.

 

[dcontroversal]

[SUP]18 [/SUP]He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
[SUP]19 [/SUP]And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
[SUP]20 [/SUP]For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
[SUP]21 [/SUP]But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. John 3:18-21

Gotta keep reading after 3:16, then one will see what a person that believes is Jesus will do. He that does truth comes to light, that his deeds (works) may be manifest, that they are wrought in God.

No one denies this.....the thread is about the faithful men of the bible and how they still had sins to confess after salvation....the same is true of us....a lifestyle of sin is not the same as one who occasionally fails in a moment of weakness........

 

[PeterJens]

"And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full.

Thank you Jesus that you declared to us your attitude to prayer.
May you teach us today, how to love, how to open our hearts, how to break in
repentance before the cross, because dear Lord, we know without this brokenness
and becoming like a child, how can we ever learn your ways and path.

I thank you Lord all you have done for all readers of this thread today, Praise
be to your name for your grace and love to us, Amen.

 

[dcontroversal]

Ah sinful nation, a people laden with iniquity, a seed of evildoers, children that are corrupters: they have forsaken the Lord, they have provoked the Holy One of Israel unto anger, they are gone away backward. Isaiah 1:4

And the destruction of the transgressors and of the sinners shall be together, and they that forsake the Lord shall be consumed. Isaiah 1:28

The shew of their countenance doth witness against them; and they declare their sin as Sodom, they hide it not. Woe unto their soul! for they have rewarded evil unto themselves. Isaiah 3:9

Woe unto them that draw iniquity with cords of vanity, and sin as it were with a cart rope: Isaiah 5:18

And he laid it upon my mouth, and said, Lo, this hath touched thy lips; and thine iniquity is taken away, and thy sin purged. Isaiah 6:7



Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce anger, to lay the land desolate: and he shall destroy the sinners thereof out of it. Isaiah 13:9

Woe to the rebellious children, saith the Lord, that take counsel, but not of me; and that cover with a covering, but not of my spirit, that they may add sin to sin: Isaiah 30:1

Behold, for peace I had great bitterness: but thou hast in love to my soul delivered it from the pit of corruption: for thou hast cast all my sins behind thy back. Isaiah 38:17

Cry aloud, spare not, lift up thy voice like a trumpet, and shew my people their transgression, and the house of Jacob their sins. Isaiah 58:1

But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear. Isaiah 59:2

[SUP]4 [/SUP]And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities. Revelation 18:4-5

AND your point.........You saying you don't sin.....is that IT........

 

[Sirk]

Thank you Jesus that you declared to us your attitude to prayer.
May you teach us today, how to love, how to open our hearts, how to break in
repentance before the cross, because dear Lord, we know without this brokenness
and becoming like a child, how can we ever learn your ways and path.

I thank you Lord all you have done for all readers of this thread today, Praise
be to your name for your grace and love to us, Amen.

Youre so holy and pure Peter. Look at you....just look at you.

 

[gb9]

i just cannot at all understand why some people get so triggered by those of us who believe that we are saved by grace alone. because that what all this is all about. on different levels, but that is what this is all about. the prideful insistence that I have to somehow someway interject myself into the salvation we RECEIVE by grace. very very sad.

 

[dcontroversal]

It seems to me it's time for some to walk away..... I know, can't believe I just said that, right?

You know it's bad when I want no part of it.

Of course....

a. The truth offends your false doctrine
b. Men who love the truth will flock to the truth not flee from it...
c. You always make mouthy comments like this when your offended by the truth being presented

 

[gb9]

Youre so holy and pure Peter. Look at you....just look at you.

I guess this is new trend on here- grandstanding , self-promoting " prayers ". so sad how the Bible discussion forum has de-volved .

 

[Sirk]

Of course....

a. The truth offends your false doctrine
b. Men who love the truth will flock to the truth not flee from it...
c. You always make mouthy comments like this when your offended by the truth being presented

paphtor phstephen brings such tangeable love with him wherever he goes.

 

[dcontroversal]

D

I prayed for most of the night, and have this to tell you.

I prayed to God that He allow me to be present near Christ when you appear before Him on the day of Atonement. I want to be there, for when I see you approaching, I will turn to Christ and say: "That's him Lord, I ask You to remember what You prayed to the Father when You were on the Cross........Father forgive them, for they know not what they do. This is my prayer to you Lord, please forgive him, for he knew not what he was doing."

I sincerely hope He grants me this plea.

However, until that time comes, unless you admit your sin and ask forgiveness for slandering the millions of Members of the Church of God Reformation Movement, I will neither speak to you, or even recognize your very existence. Should God open your eyes and heart to understanding your sin against millions of His children, and you do ask for forgiveness, I will gladly forgive you, and praise God!

Through prayer, I have come to believe you do not actually know the gravity of the sin you committed against so very many of His children, and that is truly a sad thing. You are a Brother in Arms, and because of that, I have always bent over backwards to give you far more grace from me for the terrible things you say about people who disagree with your ideology. Far more than I would extend to any other here.

I have no idea if the Holy Spirit will move upon you or not, but I assure you this, even if God does not grant my request, on that day of Atonement, your words will be read to you, and you will answer for them. That is what frightens me, and why I pray that I am allowed to be there to ask Christ to forgive your words against His children.

Father Lord, this is my plea to You in the name of Jesus Christ..............

I suggest your meds...I did not sin against you nor your religion....I posted a thread aimed at those who teach a false sinless doctrine and what they believe....

if you were offended then maybe you believe one of the three I listed....

God convicts me of my sin...not a man named PAUL....so....pray away pal and put me on block again, because I seriously doubt that you prayed almost ALL NIGHT......

and NOW you have placed yourself in the diamond Dave grouping...he also claimed to be a prophet and for sure JESUS would acknowledge his CC name in the day of judgment and reference his teaching against all who rejected it.....

geesh.......!

 

[dcontroversal]

So I assume you do not believe the following applies

1 Corinthians 3:11-15 (NKJV)
11 For no other foundation can anyone lay than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. 12 Now if anyone builds on this foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw, 13 each one's work will become clear; for the Day will declare it, because it will be revealed by fire; and the fire will test each one's work, of what sort it is. 14 If anyone's work which he has built on it endures, he will receive a reward. 15 If anyone's work is burned, he will suffer loss; but he himself will be saved, yet so as through fire.

I have lost the plot a little in this thread.

Maybe you enlighten me as to what you are getting upset about, so much so you needed to post your prayer.

Go read the OP in this thread and then scroll down to his first post...he accused me of offending his religion.....and implying things that I did not imply.....