The tree of life

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Mozarto

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Please my fellow Godly people, l am very much pleased to be part of this august house l hope my presence here will help me intensify my christian faith.

My question to be helped with is:

Many believers believe that Adam and Eve were involved in sex as a symbol of the tree God told them not to eat for the day they eat, they couldn't differentiate between good and evil. What is your opinion about the fruit that Eve ate and gave some to Adam? Your indepth explanation will help me a lot thank you.
 
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FreeNChrist

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It had nothing to do with sex. Their eating from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil was their choosing independence from God, having believed the lie of the serpent that they would be "like God". But God alone is independent, and their choice was really to become dependent upon and spiritually derive from the one who had deceived them. The spirit who is at work in the children of disobedience.
 
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BeyondET

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Please my fellow Godly people, l am very much pleased to be part of this august house l hope my presence here will help me intensify my christian faith.

My question to be helped with is:

Many believers believe that Adam and Eve were involved in sex as a symbol of the tree God told them not to eat for the day they eat, they couldn't differentiate between good and evil. What is your opinion about the fruit that Eve ate and gave some to Adam? Your indepth explanation will help me a lot thank you.
Interesting posting, I haven't heard of the sex thing connected to the knowledge tree, the friut of that tree was of temptation.

Is the thread title a typo, scripture mentions two trees one being the knowledge tree of good and evil,, And the tree of life.
 
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Please my fellow Godly people, l am very much pleased to be part of this august house l hope my presence here will help me intensify my christian faith.

My question to be helped with is:

Many believers believe that Adam and Eve were involved in sex as a symbol of the tree God told them not to eat for the day they eat, they couldn't differentiate between good and evil. What is your opinion about the fruit that Eve ate and gave some to Adam? Your indepth explanation will help me a lot thank you.
I disagree with part of your premise about differentiating between good and evil. It is my understanding that we are not to eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. In other words, we are supposed to resist being judgmental.

[16] And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, "You may freely eat of every tree of the garden;
[17] but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall die." Gen 2:16-17 RSV
 
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I think the tree was there as a lesson. What did it take one generation to realize that we are sinful creatures and in need of a Savior? If this was the plan since before the foundation of the world then...good plan.
 
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Many believers believe that Adam and Eve were involved in sex as a symbol of the tree...
God isn't shy about being upfront and in your face when it comes to sex and whatnot...

Genesis 38:9
"And Onan knew that the seed should not be his; and it came to pass, when he went in unto his brother's wife, that he spilled it on the ground, lest that he should give seed to his brother"


Leviticus 15:18
"The woman also with whom man shall lie with seed of copulation, they shall both bathe themselves in water, and be unclean until the even"


Leviticus 15:16
"And if any man’s seed of copulation go out from him, then he shall wash all his flesh in water, and be unclean until the even"


If that's what the Tree was about, God would have made it crystal clear as seen in the verses I posted.

There are even more x rated ones than that!

:rolleyes:
 

DiscipleDave

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Please my fellow Godly people, l am very much pleased to be part of this august house l hope my presence here will help me intensify my christian faith.

My question to be helped with is:

Many believers believe that Adam and Eve were involved in sex as a symbol of the tree God told them not to eat for the day they eat, they couldn't differentiate between good and evil. What is your opinion about the fruit that Eve ate and gave some to Adam? Your indepth explanation will help me a lot thank you.
Scriptures are plain on this Event, i do not understand why you don't merely believe Scriptures and what they say. You say that Many believers believe that Adam and EVe were involved in sex as a symbol of the tree. i can't help but think you are way wrong here. Maybe a few believers believe that, but for most believers they believe what the Word of God tells them, that it was a Fruit bearing TREE. Now as to the latter part of your question, it is my opinion that whatever fruit it was, does not exist outside of the Garden of Eden. Therefore it is an unknown fruit.

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††† In His Holy and Precious Name, Jesus Christ †††

DiscipleDave
 

Magenta

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God instructed them to be fruitful and multiply in chapter one of Genesis.

God blessed them and said to them, "Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground." Genesis 1:28

It was not until chapter three of Genesis that they disobeyed and ate of the one tree that was forbidden them. Fruit is used as a metaphor many times in Scriptures. For instance, as Christians, we are to bring forth good fruit. We are even told how to do this.

The fruit we are to bear has different aspects to it. One is character building: the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control. Against such things there is no law.

Peter adds to this: make every effort to add to your faith excellence, to excellence, knowledge; to knowledge, self-control; to self-control, perseverance; to perseverance, godliness; to godliness, brotherly affection; to brotherly affection, unselfish love. For if these things are really yours and are continually increasing, they will keep you from becoming ineffective and unproductive in your pursuit of knowing our Lord Jesus Christ more intimately.

So our life surrendered to God, and our works through faith are fruit, and so are people who come to Christ through us (Rom 1:3; Phil 4:17), and there is also the fruit of our lips as we praise God and witness to others (Heb 13:15).

These are good fruits, partaken of when aligned with the will of God.

Evil fruits would be the result of disobeying God, defying God, following self will in opposition to God's will, severing ourselves from fellowship with Him, etc. That is the fruit Adam and Eve bore and ate (lived). They followed the lusts of the flesh (not meaning sex) and the desires of the eyes and pride of life, in turning away from God after being in fellowship with Him. It is what we all do before being regenerated by the Holy Spirit of God.
 
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Matthew 7:21-23 New King James Version (NKJV)

I Never Knew You

21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’

Jesus is speaking about the "Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil." Genesis 2:17

When Satan tried to get Eve to take the fruit from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil, he put forth arguments that sounded convincing in her ears. He told her God was holding out on them. He said if they ate the fruit, they would be like God. He said God's Word couldn't really be trusted anyway.

There was something that Satan didn't tell the first married couple. In disobeying God, they would be obeying Satan, making him their master. He knew that whomever we obey is our god. So the devil was not just offering Adam and Eve a bit of knowledge independently of God, he was offering himself as their new god. That is what he originally wanted as Lucifer, the angel of light. He wanted to be like God.

That tree has GOOD WORKS that is independent from God...with NO RELATIONSHIP!
 
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As a Christian we are in a process of sanctification when the grace of God brings about the transformation of life and you and I are now being saved. All Christians must curve their appetite and stop being tempted and eating from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil where Satan says, "Has God indeed said."

The Apostle Paul says, "Now I say that the heir, as long as he is a child, does not differ at all from a slave, though he is master of all, 2 but is under guardians and stewards until the time appointed by the father." Galatians 4:1-2 NKJV - In others words Christians are in training.

This is why sometimes God allows what He hates to accomplish what He loves. And you will say what Jesus said, "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?"
 

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[for me anyway] the eating from the tree of knowledge of good and of evil was their defiance of God's will, God's command, which was their downfall into being separated and independent of God: but it would not have come to that if one of them would not have entered into a philosophical discussion with the serpent, instead of just quoting what God told them at every question or suggestion, just as Christ did; for then the serpent would have departed from them.
 
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So what would have happened if they didn't eat the fruit?
 

Magenta

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[for me anyway] the eating from the tree of knowledge of good and of evil was their defiance of God's will, God's command, which was their downfall into being separated and independent of God: but it would not have come to that if one of them would not have entered into a philosophical discussion with the serpent, instead of just quoting what God told them at every question or suggestion, just as Christ did; for then the serpent would have departed from them.
Eve had not yet been created when the stricture was given, and we do not know who told her.
 

stonesoffire

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Perhaps that is what we are going back to in the new Jerusalem?

To hungry:
 

stonesoffire

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Whether the fall was an act of sin or not...we know from scripture that lust of the eyes, of the heart, and the pride of life is at the heart of sin.
 

stonesoffire

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I mean't an act of sex not an act of sin...can't edit now.
 

Magenta

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Whether the fall was an act of sin or not...we know from scripture that lust of the eyes, of the heart, and the pride of life is at the heart of sin.
Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all people... Romans 5:12