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    Quote Originally Posted by Magenta View Post
    I wonder you can repeatedly say Adam and Eve knew not good when they walked and talked with the epitome and author of goodness. Better to say that good was all they knew, for they were in God's creation, and He had proclaimed it good, good, and after woman was created, very good
    Do you think that Adam and Eve knew good (their right standing with God and the joy in it, His light, life, love, etc.) - understood it - more after they ate than before they ate? I don't know.
    If we lose something, we tend to appreciate it more when it is gone than when we had it. We recognize more things about it when it is gone. Could Adam and Eve's knowledge of good been more insightful after they lost the whole state of being right with God.

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    Quote Originally Posted by samuel23 View Post
    It may seem unreasonable to say they did not know good when everything was good
    Exactly


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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoinSand View Post
    Do you think that Adam and Eve knew good (their right standing with God and the joy in it, His light, life, love, etc.) - understood it - more after they ate than before they ate? I don't know.
    If we lose something, we tend to appreciate it more when it is gone than when we had it. We recognize more things about it when it is gone. Could Adam and Eve's knowledge of good been more insightful after they lost the whole state of being right with God.

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    Hello TwoinSand. Welcome to CC! No doubt Adam and Eve were aware to some extent of what they lost, for as soon as they ate, their eyes were opened and they felt shame: they covered their nakedness, and hid themselves from God. They never again had that same sense of ease as they'd had before, and all of creation fell as a result, and then they were banished from the garden. That was certainly an aspect if not the whole of the evil (the fall of all creation) they fell into as a result of Eve being deceived, and Adam's disobedience. Whether they could have understood their previous right standing with God better after they ate, hmmm, I wonder, because after that point, and purposed before then even, was the need for Jesus, and He was prophesied in Genesis 3, though they would not likely know of Him the way Abraham saw Jesus' day, and was glad of it... Interesting question! When I say they knew good, it was in the form of God, and God's creation, which was given to them


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    Quote Originally Posted by wsblind View Post
    1.What was the good on that tree?

    2.What was the evil on that tree?


    I will give a little of what I think.......Sin wasn't on that tree.
    The good on that tree was that the bark was smooth to the touch,instead of rough to scratch ones skin.

    The bad on the tree is that the branches would droop and if one was not careful could crack their head,or Adam could of walked by a skinny branch and pushed it forward as he went by,and then let it go,and catch Eve in the face.

    The tree of the knowledge of good and evil was that of giving Adam and Eve a choice between good and evil after they ate the fruit,instead of always knowing good,but then someone might say if they only knew good,how could they of eaten off the tree that God forbid.

    It would of never entered Eve's mind to eat of that tree,for she knew to only do good,unless an outside source tempted her,which God allowed Satan to tempt her,in which when he spoke to her at first saying,did God say that,it did not work,and Eve said plainly we cannot eat of that tree Mr. Serpent plain and simple,so then Satan appealed to her ego,saying her and Adam will be like gods,and that they would be more greater than their current position,and Eve fell for it,and then Eve tempted Adam,and was the outside source to tempt Adam by showing him she ate of the fruit,and it was alright.

    But when they ate the fruit the knew something was wrong,and they were naked,and ashamed,which is what sin will do to a person.

    It was a sin for them to eat of the tree,for God commanded them not to eat of the tree.

    The tree had to do with sin for they were not to eat of it,and also gave them a choice in their life between good and evil,and if God did not allow Eve to be tempted by Satan,and she tempted Adam,they would of never sinned,for there would of been no outside source to tempt them,and they would of only thought to leave that tree alone,which all of their children,and all people,would of left that tree alone,and no one would of sinned,but then spiritual salvation would of never been possible,but only whatever benefit in the flesh that people could get would be all there is.

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    It seems that most have decided that Adam and Eve ALREADY knew good, so when they ate of the forbidden fruit they just gained the knowledge of evil. So, the only thing left is to form a committee and petition God to remove the word GOOD out of the story then we can all be happy and everything will fit. Think please, if the tree gave them the knowledge of evil that they did not previously have, then the tree had to give them the knowledge of good that they did not previously have...because the tree gave the knowledge of good and evil...not just evil.

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    It seems you have decided they did not know God. Seems an odd conclusion to come to, but you are free to believe that if you so choose, even though Scripture is pretty plain about the fact that Adam and Eve were in relationship with God and God's creation, and that God saw His creation as good. That God is good is a given, and they knew God... hmmm, you are left holding an empty bag again, Sammy.


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    I have read many of your posts, sometimes you do make sense, other times you don't...this is one of the other times. I knew that you would post what you posted...you are really easy to read. For some reason you have little respect for honest reasoning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wsblind View Post
    ...not all evil is sin.
    Hold on a minute.

    What is Evil?

    Or more specifically... what is the 'Root' of it?

    Remember...

    Never assume you know what a Word means. Always let the Bible tell you.

    Observe...

    1 Timothy 6:10
    "For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows"


    Not "a" Root like those corrupted Bibles tell you.

    "THE" ROOT

    What do Trees have? Yes... Roots.

    Thus, the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil had to do with the love of Money.

    The Serpent was making a monetary exchange for a future investment.

    Don't believe me?

    Acts 20:28
    "Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood"


    A monetary exchange started it... a monetary exchange will end it.

    Thinkaboudit.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Base12 View Post
    Hold on a minute.

    What is Evil?

    Or more specifically... what is the 'Root' of it?

    Remember...

    Never assume you know what a Word means. Always let the Bible tell you.

    Observe...

    1 Timothy 6:10
    "For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows"


    Not "a" Root like those corrupted Bibles tell you.

    "THE" ROOT

    What do Trees have? Yes... Roots.

    Thus, the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil had to do with the love of Money.

    The Serpent was making a monetary exchange for a future investment.

    Don't believe me?

    Acts 20:28
    "Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood"


    A monetary exchange started it... a monetary exchange will end it.

    Thinkaboudit.

    Didn't have to think long.

    craziest post of the day for sure.

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    Default Re: Tree of good and evil.

    Quote Originally Posted by samuel23 View Post
    Hi WSB, You say, not all evil is sin...could you give an example?
    Giving 1 million dollars to a friend......and it was not Gods will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wsblind View Post
    Didn't have to think long.

    craziest post of the day for sure.
    ^^^
    Derpest reply ever.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Base12 View Post
    ^^^
    Derpest reply ever.

    Yep.......

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    God’s command, as foundat Genesis 2:16, 17, reads: “From every tree of the garden you mayeat to satisfaction. But as for the tree of the knowledge of good andbad you must not eat from it, for in the day you eat from it you willpositively die.”While the Genesis account may appear very simple,what it says has deep significance. The fruit of the tree of theknowledge of good and bad was not poisonous but wholesome, literally“good for food.” So God’s restriction regarding this fruit wasthe only thing that made eating of it bad. The tree was therefore afitting symbol of the right to determine or set the standards of goodand bad, which right God reserved for Himself by forbidding Adam toeat thereof. This prohibition emphasized man’s proper dependence onGod as his Sovereign Ruler. By obedience the first man and womancould demonstrate that they respected God’s right to make known tothem what was “good” (divinely approved) and what was “bad”(divinely condemned). Disobedience on their part would have signifieda rebellion against God’s sovereignty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Base12 View Post
    ^^^
    Derpest reply ever.

    Sorry. Are you serious? Your post was serious? I thought you were being sarcastic.

    You really believe your first post?

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    What's the square root of all evil?
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    False teaching will have you believe it to be an apple tree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grace777x70 View Post
    We try to do "good things" and not do "evil things" by our own will-power.
    Yes. That will not work.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grace777x70 View Post
    The tree of the knowledge of good and evil is a belief that I can have the life of God by my own ability.
    A very correct understanding of this subject. The bottom line: Even the "good" side of the thing isnt truly good.
    There are two kinds of evil. There is blatant, obvious evil, and there is evil which portrays itself good. Calls itself God. The latter evil is a more despicable thing.
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    Default Re: Tree of good and evil.

    On the title of this thread... I believe it should be the complete name of the tree. It is the tree of the knowledge of good and evil......a very important distinction in understanding...
    From the Mouth of our Lord, Jesus Christ, or do you call Him Yeshua?
    Mat 7:1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.


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    Quote Originally Posted by wsblind View Post
    1.What was the good on that tree?

    2.What was the evil on that tree?


    I will give a little of what I think.......Sin wasn't on that tree.

    the tree was called the tree of the KNOWLEDGE of good and evil

    see what happens when a word is left out?

    knowledge...read all about it in Proverbs

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    all sin separates a person from God and we don't get to say it is or is not what God says it is

    sin = death, separation from God

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