Like I said, I have to wonder at some of you folks.
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Like I said, I have to wonder at some of you folks.
I suppose that tithing is alright, however no Minister should ever get up and tell Christians they are commanded to tithe because that would be a lie.
God blesses people who are rich towards him. But he asks us to give with a cheerful heart. So if you have little and say tithe 5% instead of 10% so you can pay your bills it is okay. However, if you are rich and yet still don't tithe. I would watch out because God says your riches are eaten and will not deliver you from death.
A few thoughts...
First, "tithe" means "tenth"... ordinal (eighth, ninth, tenth) or fractional (one of ten, ten of 100, etc.). 5% is not a tithe, nor is 9.7%, or 10.2%, or 20%. The Law is specific; if people are going to argue in favour of tithing, they need to do so consistently with what the Law says.
Second, Abraham gave a tithe of war spoils before the Law, true. However, a regular tithe was not instituted under the Law. Further, Abraham was given the command of circumcision, which was also before the Law, and that was fulfilled in Christ, and is not binding on Christians. Therefore the argument that tithing predates the Law and is therefore still in effect is groundless.
Third, "tithing" is not "offering". The two concepts are distinct. Giving the tithe was mandatory, not optional.
Fourth, there are several tithes described in the OT... following the Law in this matter means following all the tithes. I have yet to hear any pro-tithing preacher tell people to buy wine or strong drink with their tithe, to enjoy in God's presence.
Fifth, in Genesis 28, Jacob made a conditional bargain with God. There is not a single verse of Scripture which suggests that he ever fulfilled his end of that bargain.
Lest anyone bring up the idea of tithing one's time, remember that such is two hours and 24 minutes out of every day.
The pronouncement of a "curse or malediction" was part of the Mosaic Law.Christians are not obligated to tithe as was mentioned in the earlier comments. But like Jesus, they do experience the joy that comes from giving! (Acts 20:35)
The NT says its a curse to tithe...
The tithe refers to the tenth part, the tenth or 10% fractional value, this is the standard meaning of tithe. You don’t have to worry, don’t tithe what you don’t have. Tithe the titheable. Christians are no longer bound by the law, that’s correct but Christians are bound by faith of Abraham. So if one favour tithing, then get past of the law. Go to Abraham’s faith. Surely, this is from faith to faith. The just shall live by faith. You just got to live your tithing in faith.
Tithing? Tithing? Tithing? ????? Will you be cursed under the New Testament for not tithing---- no----- tithing brings the blessing which means your money becomes sanctified or set apart through the tithe--- failing to tithe voids this blessing---you are much better off with 90% blessed money than 100% unblessed money---- tried and tested it for 40 years and it is true----First mention of something in Scripture us usually significant ( Genesis 14:20) Abram tithed to Melchiizedech ( a type of Christ) and set the standard for blessing--- Abram refused material blessings from a man, but rather trusted in God (El Elyon) The Most High God who is what???--- the possessor of heaven and earth---God is the Possessor and the Blesser---- Finally, let's look at the purpose of tithing????---- surely the purpose can reveal important facts to consider--- in the Old Testament the tithe supported the priests so they could do their duties for all Israel--- today the purpose of tithing is the same--- to support the 5 fold ( Ephesian 4 ) ministers---- there job is to equip the saints----edify the Body of Christ---mature the Saints---- only about 25% of Christians tithe---- what would happen to the whole world if all Christians tithed---- first they would be blessed--- second we would be doing 4 times more evangelism--- we would be helping the poor 4 times more ect.--- so much more would be done--- you know I love Burger King but I don' t (tithe) to them--- I told them I love them and would give them an offering from my heart for a meal---for some reason they wanted full payment for their great burger--- didn't think much of my love offering idea--- well you are eating many meals at the House of God and from God's servants --- I hope they can run the Church, Missions, feeding the poor, evangelism, ect --- on the full tithes being brought in--- it really works...
If God cursed Christians, then the cross was futile.. God will judge, but He doesn't curse people.
In a nutshell! No...
From the Mouth of our Lord, Jesus Christ, or do you call Him Yeshua?
Mat 7:1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
What test is used in the bible to see if you are in faith?
Answer...Luke 16:9-13 Christians are tested with the least in the Kingdom of God which is money.
9 And I say unto you, gMake to yourselves friends of dthe ||mammon dof unrighteousness; that, when ye fail, hthey may receive you into everlasting habitations. 10 iHe that is faithful in that which is least is faithful also in much: and he that is unjust in the least is unjust also in much. 11 If therefore ye have not been faithful in the unrighteous ||mammon, who will commit to your trust the true riches? 12 And if ye have not been faithful in that which is another man’s, who shall give you that which is your own? 13 kNo servant can serve two masters: for either he will lhate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.
Christians are tested with the least in the Kingdom of God which is money.
Considering what Jesus has said here (Luke 16:9-13 NKJV), I think it would be difficult to overstate the significance of this down to earth, practical teaching, that applies to everyone. If a person cannot be trusted with money, and in any capacity, Jesus plainly says, he cannot be trusted with Salvation, i.e., "true riches." In view of the seriousness of what is being said, we would do well to heed carefully.
In these passages (Luke 16:9-13), Jesus is saying that irrespective of how loudly and how often we profess our Godliness, if it does not show up in our practical, every day living, and especially in the matters of money, and our responsibility toward others, our profession is vain. This statement is plain and clear, if we are unfaithful in these things. "Who will commit to our trust the true riches?"
If love is not our motivation, whatever we give equals zero and amounts to nothing (1 Corinthians 13:3 NKJV). When we perform and try to meet the demands of the Law, we fall under the curse of trying to get God to “do” something (Galatians 3:10-14). The concept of giving and tithing is not based on money itself, it is about trust. When we give, it is no longer just giving money—it is authenticating our love and trust in God. Luke 16: 9-13 NKJV
For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified. 1 Corinthians 2:2
Hebrews 7:4 Now consider how great this man was, unto whom even the patriarch Abraham gave the tenth of the spoils.5 And verily they that are of the sons of Levi, who receive the office of the priesthood, have a commandment to take tithes of the people according to the law, that is, of their brethren, though they come out of the loins of Abraham:6 But he whose descent is not counted from them received tithes of Abraham, and blessed him that had the promises.7 And without all contradiction the less is blessed of the better.8 And here men that die receive tithes; but there he receiveth them, of whom it is witnessed that he liveth.9 And as I may so say, Levi also, who receiveth tithes, payed tithes in Abraham.10 For he was yet in the loins of his father, when Melchisedec met him.11 If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron?12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.13 For he of whom these things are spoken pertaineth to another tribe, of which no man gave attendance at the altar.14 For it is evident that our Lord sprang out of Juda; of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood.15 And it is yet far more evident: for that after the similitude of Melchisedec there ariseth another priest,16 Who is made, not after the law of a carnal commandment, but after the power of an endless life.17 For he testifieth, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.
There is no more priests to pay tithes to on a regular basis when we have Jesus Christ now and since Jesus is not offering Himself up on the altar on a regular basis, then the carnal commandment to tithe is now out.
So always read His words in context.
And pastors & churches & ministries should avoid the appearance of covetousness when collecting from God through cheerful givers by not insisting on pledges nor tithings to get believers to give, but insisting on applying faith in God to provide for the ministry of the church just what the church needs in serving Him in the ministry. That is God's unspeakable gift talked about in 2 Corinthians 9th chapter.
2 Corinthians 9:8And God is able to make all grace abound toward you; that ye, always having all sufficiency in all things, may abound to every good work:9 (As it is written, He hath dispersed abroad; he hath given to the poor: his righteousness remaineth for ever.10 Now he that ministereth seed to the sower both minister bread for your food, and multiply your seed sown, and increase the fruits of your righteousness11 Being enriched in every thing to all bountifulness, which causeth through us thanksgiving to God.12 For the administration of this service not only supplieth the want of the saints, but is abundant also by many thanksgivings unto God;13 Whiles by the experiment of this ministration they glorify God for your professed subjection unto the gospel of Christ, and for your liberal distribution unto them, and unto all men;14 And by their prayer for you, which long after you for the exceeding grace of God in you.15 Thanks be unto God for his unspeakable gift.
So insisting on tithing is robbing God of giving to the local church His unspeakable gift that He is able to raise up cheerful givers.