Why is Christianity so focused on Sin?

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sevenseas

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that may help So many claiming to be christian today who do not even resemble christ..


it's like saying you are Catholic. or Protestant. Christian does not mean Protestant and Protestant does not mean saved

ditto for Catholic
 
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sevenseas

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#22
LOL!...okay okay

2nd rep for the same post

I bow to your superior knowledge

ps: thank you Eternally
 
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eternally-gratefull

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#23
it's like saying you are Catholic. or Protestant. Christian does not mean Protestant and Protestant does not mean saved

ditto for Catholic
It is bad, I denied being a protestant awhile ago. I think it is a sham and actually an insult..

I do not protest the roman church.. lol

I am a disciple of Christ, not of some church.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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#24
LOL!...okay okay

2nd rep for the same post

I bow to your superior knowledge

ps: thank you Eternally
You made a great point.. Well deserved.
 
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sevenseas

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It is bad, I denied being a protestant awhile ago. I think it is a sham and actually an insult..

I do not protest the roman church.. lol

I am a disciple of Christ, not of some church.
Protestant

another interesting word. Do you know where it comes from?

google allowed
 
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#26
Why can't it be just about experiencing the love of God? Why not just about knowing the Holy Spirit, living by the wisdom in the Bible?


Instead, new believers have to feel guilty about their Sin. Let's be honest, most people are not sinners but losers. They struggle in their jobs, their finances, their health etc.

They struggle to pay the bills, to find someone who actually cares about them.

They feel normal human emotions like anger, frustrations, hate, even lust.

Why is that evil?

Now such a person would love to experience the love of Jesus & the guidance of the Holy Spirit.

But to reach there, they first have to confess their sins, feel bad about themselves.

It is almost as if sin is the key concept in the Bible.

My parents know me with all my shortcomings. They still love me, and never ask me to confess my so called "sins" everyday for them to love me. Why is it different with God the Father then?

If Christianity was more about spreading the love and forgiveness of Jesus, and less about the condemnation of Sin - we would have lot more believers. Who doesn't want God as a personal friend?

And just for the sake of argument, here is what other religions say on the topic of sin:

Hinduism: The concept of Sin doesn't even exists. They have more of a guidelines about living an ethical life.
Islam: The concept of Sin exists, and good deeds must be performed regularly to outweight the quota of sin in a person's life.
Buddhism: The concept of Sin doesn't exists. "Paapa" or "Punya" are towards another person, whereas Biblical Sin is against God.
That's like saying, "Why do people focus on money when they want to buy a house?" Because no money, no house. You don't get a house simply because it would be nice to have a house for free. You BUY a house. It's NOT free.

Neither are we free to come to God in sin. God is perfect. He cannot be around sin, or that would make him imperfect.

There is a cost to come to God -- punishment for sin. He paid that cost for whosoever will believe. He, personally, took on the punishment for that sin.

Don't you think we owe him at least the need to acknowledge the sin? More than that, we owe him sinlessness, a debt we cannot pay. Therefore we need his strength to overcome the sin.

If you rather get the house for free, you'll spend the rest of your life complaining that houses cost money. Sin cost even more. So, yeah, the focus becomes sin to get what we want -- God. Even there, that we do that is because he gave us the knowledge that we are sinful and need him ever so much. We see who we are and why we don't deserve him. We see what he did to bridge the gap.

This IS Christianity -- not Buddhism. Not Hinduism. Not Islam. There is no pick-and-choose on what you'd prefer. Since God spent a huge amount of time focusing on sin, sin means something important.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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#27
Protestant

another interesting word. Do you know where it comes from?

google allowed
not really, I guess I always assumed,, Please share..
 
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FreeNChrist

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#28
fair enough, but look at who is calling themselves Christian. It used to mean something

I prefer the original Christ-ones

as in of Christ and belonging to Christ



The young church in Antioch was a mixture of Jews (who spoke Aramaic or Greek) and Gentiles. It was the first place that believers were called Christians or "Christ-ones," because all they had in common was Christ-not race, culture or even language. Christ's love crosses all boundaries and unites all people.
Yes that's what being a Christian means, that we are Christ-ones. That isn't merely a label, it is our identity, as those who have a new nature derived from Christ.
 

Prov910

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Why is Christianity so focused on Sin?
Excellent topic! It seems like, once you become a believer your propensity to sin should decrease. And the nature of your sins, if any, changes as well. I mean, a Christian (should, I think) become less prone to breaking any of the ten commandments. How many people who are Christians have problems with lying, stealing, or committing adultery? Instead, the nature of a Christian's sins changes, becoming a matter of not showing love towards our enemies--or even our brothers sometimes.

Speaking for myself, I am not so likely to sin by stealing, or lying, or adultery, as I am to sin by speaking harshly to the guy who cuts me off in traffic. Or perhaps by mocking someone on this board whose beliefs differ from my own. I am still far, far from perfect. I sin. But the nature of my sin has changed. /jmho
 
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#30
Thanks for your response. Just to make it clear, I wasn't supporting Sin. I do believe in working with the Holy Spirit to get rid of the sins, as God and Sin cannot co-exist.


However, my problem is specifically about people having to confess themselves as sinners every day, even though their so called "sins" would be something as insignificant as getting up late in the morning.
(Short list -- What some people create as their new and improved Ten Commandments after noticing they can't keep any of the Ten Commandments, but they think it is special of them if they keep something of a law.)

Who cares what short-listers "confess?" What is important is what God has us confess.

So, isn't pointing to those poor other schmohzes what their sins are doing pretty much what they're doing -- making you look better, because you don't confess you got up late?
 
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BeyondET

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[video=youtube;05mfLC5f-uI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05mfLC5f-uI[/video]
 
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sevenseas

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not really, I guess I always assumed,, Please share..


you don't google? never mind, happy 2 share

hint: protest

hint 2: reformation

hint 3: Germany

hint 4: Martin, Martin Luther

of course there is also the so called English reformation

To be Protestant is to define yourself as protesting against certain forms of religion. … there is little need for Protestants anymore. What are we still protesting? The Reformation of the sixteenth century was a European event.
so now we should all be called evangelical? I don't like that label either

read all about it

I chose a non-'religious' site because I think they may be more objective

but that's just me I guess :rolleyes:
 
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sevenseas

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#33
Yes that's what being a Christian means, that we are Christ-ones. That isn't merely a label, it is our identity, as those who have a new nature derived from Christ.

yes. our identity is in Christ. old things are gone and all things are made new. I get so tired of me, myself and I

Thank God!
 
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eternally-gratefull

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#34
you don't google? never mind, happy 2 share

hint: protest

hint 2: reformation

hint 3: Germany

hint 4: Martin, Martin Luther

of course there is also the so called English reformation



so now we should all be called evangelical? I don't like that label either

read all about it

I chose a non-'religious' site because I think they may be more objective

but that's just me I guess :rolleyes:

lol, I was going to say Luther, and his protest,

Yes I google. But did not want to assume I knew what you meant, wanted you to share. I like hearing what people believe.

When i was a baptist I stopped telling people I was baptist because there are so many different types of baptists.. People would assume things, so I started just calling myself a christ follower..

I now go to non denominational church. soo....
 
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sevenseas

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lol, I was going to say Luther, and his protest,

Yes I google. But did not want to assume I knew what you meant, wanted you to share. I like hearing what people believe.

When i was a baptist I stopped telling people I was baptist because there are so many different types of baptists.. People would assume things, so I started just calling myself a christ follower..

I now go to non denominational church. soo....


I was kidding on google :)

the reformation is a historical fact

I like history
 

joaniemarie

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[video=youtube;05mfLC5f-uI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05mfLC5f-uI[/video]

Simple story yet so very true teaching a lesson for those interested in learning. It's always how we see our situations in life that can make or break us. Like that woman, many of us sit under a tree engulfed in the problems we see with our eyes. Depressed and trapped in despondency., Totally surrounded by it.

When something as simple as a child giving a flower despite his circumstances can help change our perception of reality. How much more Jesus and us abiding branches on the vine?? His truth will come so much so that our perceptions will change so drastically each day we learn from Him that we will see our lives in a new way based on Jesus and not the world and what we see with our eyes.

He says to "come unto Me all you who are heavy laden (over come) and I will give you rest." Only those who dare to look at what Jesus said and not what they "see" in life will be able to walk in the promises and abide on the Vine and bear much fruit. It is so true that our minds are the battle field and only the Holy Spirit can minister to that need of a changed mind using the Bible He teaches us from, comforts us from and guides us from.
 
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sevenseas

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I was blind but now I see

reminds me of we are told that we may entertain angels unawares
 

Locutus

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In a sense it is and in sense it's not.

Christianity is focused on the restoration of fellowship with God that Adam had in the "garden" which was lost through his sin.
 

joaniemarie

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I was blind but now I see

reminds me of we are told that we may entertain angels unawares

And isn't it amazing how this knowledge comes some 10 fold some 20 fold some 50 fold? Once open to the zillions of possibilities in Christ we are also open to the many and more promises as we begin seeing the Bible as a love letter to us of how much He loves us and what He has done for us. It becomes personal and private. Some of the promises we have been given can't be described because they are so varied and overflowing.

The Holy Spirit that Jesus promised us in John 7:38-39 will do this in our lives when we believe.
[h=1]John 7:38-39American Standard Version (ASV)[/h] [SUP]38 [/SUP]He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, [SUP][a][/SUP]from within him shall flow rivers of living water. [SUP]39 [/SUP]But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believed on him were to receive: [SUP][b][/SUP]for the Spirit was not yet given; because Jesus was not yet glorified.




It is an astounding shock to me that I have the Holy Spirit abiding in me ready to teach me the truth, to lead comfort and guide me in alllllll my ways! And yet this is the promise and it is true because He is true and His Word is true.