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    Default Re: Have you believed the false grace message?

    Quote Originally Posted by Roughsoul1991 View Post
    So we have no choice in the matter?
    sure we have a choice. we can walk away from Christ. but that is the only way to " lose salvation " . God does not take away salvation. we can walk away. but that is us refusing God's grace after experiencing it, which probably means one was never saved to start with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roughsoul1991 View Post
    Just as the article says we are not forced
    Really? Threat of hellfire if I don't believe your gospel isn't forced?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gb9 View Post
    sure we have a choice. we can walk away from Christ. but that is the only way to " lose salvation " . God does not take away salvation. we can walk away. but that is us refusing God's grace after experiencing it, which probably means one was never saved to start with.
    Your on point up to the last sentence
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    If you don't believe in Jesus you don't believe God. Period, end of story...
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    I read the article in the OP and it is your typical "twisted" half-truths based on a works-based self-righteousness mindset which actually denies the very grace of Christ's work on the cross and resurrection from operating in a person's life like it should.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirk View Post
    Really? Threat of hellfire if I don't believe your gospel isn't forced?
    The Bible teaches heaven and hell not me
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grace777x70 View Post
    I read the article in the OP and it is your typical "twisted" half-truths based on a works-based self-righteousness mindset which actually denies the very grace of Christ's work on the cross and resurrection from operating in a person's life like it should.
    And you are always pushing the perseverance of the saints
    Sometimes we must not be afraid to ask why and question everything we Know!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roughsoul1991 View Post
    The Bible teaches heaven and hell not me
    But now you take it a step further and say unmerited favor isn't enough. Now we step across the line into adding to the finished work of Christ crucified....or else you go to hell. Lol
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    I tell you what. Get back to me in about 15 years and tell me that you need something more than grace. I for one am thankful that I am finally able to accept it. It's been a long slog thru the wilderness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirk View Post
    But now you take it a step further and say unmerited favor isn't enough. Now we step across the line into adding to the finished work of Christ crucified....or else you go to hell. Lol
    Odds are we don't have 15 years......by then.....it might be snap, crackle and pop....seeing how the world will burn.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roughsoul1991 View Post
    Yes it's freely given to all who except it
    You actually spoke the misunderstood truth as desired by some people. When you used the wrong word, (except), you said the opposite of what you were trying to say....but you actually expressed what you meant.

    The accurate sentence would have been "Grace is freely given to all who accept it.... and they are required to do nothing to receive the gift."
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    Who is the Percy Vere guy??

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    The curses in the Bible dont apply to me.
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    I don't see where the new testament has any covenant curses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Locutus View Post
    I don't see where the new testament has any covenant curses.
    They are certainly implied to those who don't accept Jesus as Lord and savior....not to mention the whole hell thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Locutus View Post
    Who is the Percy Vere guy??
    PercyVere is sorta hot for an old lady!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Willie-T View Post
    PercyVere is sorta hot for an old lady!
    Man! Am I a little slow!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirk View Post
    They are certainly implied to those who don't accept Jesus as Lord and savior....not to mention the whole hell thing.

    Covenant blessing and curses were spelled out in Deuteronomy in regards to the Mosaic covenant - where did Jesus associate any curses when making the new?

    Mat 26:28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Locutus View Post
    Covenant blessing and curses were spelled out in Deuteronomy in regards to the Mosaic covenant - where did Jesus associate any curses when making the new?

    Mat 26:28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
    Jesus came to fulfill the law because we can't. If we accept him then we aren't under the old covenant because he has paid the penalty. Those who don't still are under the law. Am I wrong on that?
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    My message is not to make anyone one believe different after all you will believe what you want. I just want people to examine what they believe.
    Sometimes we must not be afraid to ask why and question everything we Know!

    http://www.onenewsnow.com/
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