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    Default Have you believed the false grace message?

    This article has good information that you can use to see if you have believed in the false teachings of today.

    It does no harm to test your theology for truth and may even save you from hell.

    Grace vs. False-Grace: Have you fallen for the false-grace message? Five marks of the false-grace doctrine… - John Burton | Conference Speaker | Author
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    Default Re: Have you believed the false grace message?

    Is there a readers digest version?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Locutus View Post
    Is there a readers digest version?
    Lol nope that's what got us in this mess. Trying to find the easy way out lol
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    What mess?

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    In a nutshell. God rules with fear. If we behave badly we will be burned. Sounds like a sin focused gospel vs a love focused gospel. Doesn't jive. Hope this pastor doesn't rule over his kids with fear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Locutus View Post
    What mess?
    I don't know it's up to you to read and see if God will open your mind to examine yourself to see if you have fallen for false teachings on grace. If you haven't, well good if you have then what will you do. If you see this as false doctrine then that's okay it's your life and your free to believe what you want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roughsoul1991 View Post
    I don't know it's up to you to read and see if God will open your mind to examine yourself to see if you have fallen for false teachings on grace. If you haven't, well good if you have then what will you do. If you see this as false doctrine then that's okay it's your life and your free to believe what you want.
    Isnt grace unmerited favor? i.e: you dont deserve it? Nothing you can do to earn it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirk View Post
    In a nutshell. God rules with fear. If we behave badly we will be burned. Sounds like a sin focused gospel vs a love focused gospel. Doesn't jive. Hope this pastor doesn't rule over his kids with fear.
    If you say so. If you mean fear by dealing with a want to do right then you would be right to honor God then your right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirk View Post
    Isnt grace unmerited favor? i.e: you dont deserve it? Nothing you can do to earn it?
    Yes it's freely given to all who except it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roughsoul1991 View Post
    I don't know it's up to you to read and see if God will open your mind to examine yourself to see if you have fallen for false teachings on grace. If you haven't, well good if you have then what will you do. If you see this as false doctrine then that's okay it's your life and your free to believe what you want.
    here is the false teaching on grace-anything that says it is not a gift. you push works salvation. you are the false gospel teacher.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gb9 View Post
    here is the false teaching on grace-anything that says it is not a gift. you push works salvation. you are the false gospel teacher.
    Opposite of what the article says.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roughsoul1991 View Post
    Lol nope that's what got us in this mess. Trying to find the easy way out lol
    I found an easy way out and his name is Jesus!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roughsoul1991 View Post
    If you say so. If you mean fear by dealing with a want to do right then you would be right to honor God then your right.
    Romans 7
    13Did that which is good, then, bring death to me? By no means! It was sin, producing death in me through what is good, in order that sin might be shown to be sin, and through the commandment might become sinful beyond measure. 14For we know that the law is spiritual, but I am of the flesh, sold under sin. 15For I do not understand my own actions. For I do not do what I want, but I do the very thing I hate. 16Now if I do what I do not want, I agree with the law, that it is good. 17So now it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells within me. 18For I know that nothing good dwells in me, that is, in my flesh. For I have the desire to do what is right, but not the ability to carry it out. 19For I do not do the good I want, but the evil I do not want is what I keep on doing. 20Now if I do what I do not want, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells within me.

    21So I find it to be a law that when I want to do right, evil lies close at hand. 22For I delight in the law of God, in my inner being, 23but I see in my members another law waging war against the law of my mind and making me captive to the law of sin that dwells in my members. 24Wretched man that I am! Who will deliver me from this body of death? 25Thanks be to God through Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, I myself serve the law of God with my mind, but with my flesh I serve the law of sin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Embankment View Post
    I found an easy way out and his name is Jesus!
    Happy for you
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roughsoul1991 View Post
    Opposite of what the article says.
    I think I will go with what the Bible says. IT says we are saved by grace. not given the chance to get saved. saved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gb9 View Post
    I think I will go with what the Bible says. IT says we are saved by grace. not given the chance to get saved. saved.
    So we have no choice in the matter?
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    Sin-consciousness is the fuel for the engine of religion. Religion hates the message of the grace of God in Christ because it disqualifies their actions.
    The new man in Christ - the new creation that is created in righteousness and

    holiness hears the heart voice of the Spirit and not an old head noise of the letter

    of the word. The Pharisees knew "bible knowledge" but they did not

    know God's heart and so they erred in really understanding what the

    scriptures were saying.


    The Lord wants us to look through His eyes and to live from His heart towards

    people, towards Him and towards ourselves as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roughsoul1991 View Post
    So we have no choice in the matter?
    forced sorrow leads to death but Godly sorrow leads to life.

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    Where sin abounds....GRACE did much more abound....funny how grace gets chunked around like a ball and kicked away for a foul....

    Grace is a position and represents positioning....

    IN the grace you are HAVING BEEN SAVED out of faith, and that NOT of yourself, it is the GIFT of GOD, not of works least any man should boast....<---Not of yourself is directed at faith....

    Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:
    By whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God.
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    Just as the article says we are not forced
    Sometimes we must not be afraid to ask why and question everything we Know!

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