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    Quote Originally Posted by TMukhtar View Post
    my question is simple, what does "born of God" means? (your perspective of course)

    How can some one be born of God? Are you born of God? Is Jesus born of God?
    Here is the definition " Born of God " that I adhere too:

    1 John 3:9
    Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin;
    for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin,
    because he is born of God.

    1 John 5:18
    We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not;
    but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself,
    and that wicked one toucheth him not.

    Whomever it may be that this scripture defines
    is born of God. No matter who it is no matter what.

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    Does anyone born of God say: I am of Paul, and I of Apollos, and I of Cephas. Yes. The saints at Corinth. 1 Corinthians 1.1, 12.
    Is anyone born of God carnal? 1 Corinthians 3.3. Yes, the saints at Corinth.
    Insert born of God into such verses throughout the New Testament.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oceanblue View Post
    Here is the definition " Born of God " that I adhere too:

    1 John 3:9
    Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin;
    for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin,
    because he is born of God.

    1 John 5:18
    We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not;
    but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself,
    and that wicked one toucheth him not.

    Whomever it may be that this scripture defines
    is born of God. No matter who it is no matter what.
    I see. So it's a non sinner? it means that humans can't be born of God

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    Quote Originally Posted by TMukhtar View Post
    I see. So it's a non sinner? it means that humans can't be born of God
    Go back and read the first post. I have addressed this here you have said here already there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TMukhtar View Post
    "Jesus is a human being born of God."
    How? Which God?
    Of the One and Only True Living God. The God who created all things. The God who is LOVE. The God of the bible. He is the Almighty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oceanblue View Post
    Go back and read the first post. I have addressed this here you have said here already there.
    it indicates that Jesus is born of God therefore does not sin. What about humans? can they be born of God?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TMukhtar View Post
    it indicates that Jesus is born of God therefore does not sin. What about humans? can they be born of God?
    Was Jesus a human?

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    I believe he is human.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oceanblue View Post
    Sin to me is evil. Sin is evil.
    The Law or Commandments bring the knowledge of sin. 1 John 3:4 "Everyone who makes a practice of sinning also practices lawlessness; sin is lawlessness." ESV or "Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law." KJV

    Sin is the braking of the Law or Commandments, which include dishonoring our
    parents, lying or bearing false witness, coveting or desiring thing that belong to someone else, not putting God first in everything you do, that one alone makes us all sinners. We do these types of things all the time in our minds, so we continually sin, but do we practice them, do we take what belongs to someone else, no. Do I put God before everything I do, no. This is why John says if we say we are without sin we make Him a liar. Is my lifestyle to lie all the time, no, do I take the Lord name in vain, I have and do some times do I do it all the time or make a practice of it, no, I acknowledge that it's sin and He is faithful and just to forgive it.

    No one lives a life of never braking the Law of God, it's impossible. Read Matthew 5:17-48 Jesus makes the Law apply inwardly and in verse 48 He says "
    You there fore must be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect." Do you never brake one of God's Law's? You don't need to answer that here, but to yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TMukhtar View Post
    I believe he is human.
    Now you know human beings can be born of God.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny_B View Post
    The Law or Commandments bring the knowledge of sin. 1 John 3:4 "Everyone who makes a practice of sinning also practices lawlessness; sin is lawlessness." ESV or "Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law." KJV

    Sin is the braking of the Law or Commandments, which include dishonoring our
    parents, lying or bearing false witness, coveting or desiring thing that belong to someone else, not putting God first in everything you do, that one alone makes us all sinners. We do these types of things all the time in our minds, so we continually sin, but do we practice them, do we take what belongs to someone else, no. Do I put God before everything I do, no. This is why John says if we say we are without sin we make Him a liar. Is my lifestyle to lie all the time, no, do I take the Lord name in vain, I have and do some times do I do it all the time or make a practice of it, no, I acknowledge that it's sin and He is faithful and just to forgive it.

    No one lives a life of never braking the Law of God, it's impossible. Read Matthew 5:17-48 Jesus makes the Law apply inwardly and in verse 48 He says "
    You there fore must be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect." Do you never brake one of God's Law's? You don't need to answer that here, but to yourself.
    What you are saying is impossible has already been done.
    In fact long before you were here.
    Telling me it is impossible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oceanblue View Post
    What you are saying is impossible has already been done.
    In fact long before you were here.
    Telling me it is impossible.
    I'm sorry, you lost me. Are you saying that it's possible to keep God's Law? It's only been do by one person and that's Jesus who was born sinless. Is that what you want me to tell you is impossible? Can you explain it a little clearer for me, I'm not understanding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny_B View Post
    I'm sorry, you lost me. Are you saying that it's possible to keep God's Law? It's only been do by one person and that's Jesus who was born sinless. Is that what you want me to tell you is impossible? Can you explain it a little clearer for me, I'm not understanding.
    What do you want me to do? Explain to you why you lack the faith to
    enter into that to which you believe is impossible? Is that what you want me to do for you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by oceanblue View Post
    Is there any that are born of God that do not follow God at all times and commit sin?
    Yes; me, you and all other Christians.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oceanblue View Post
    Do you believe Jesus was born of God?
    Jesus IS God.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oceanblue View Post
    That is because you are not born of God. Now you know it.
    Houston, we have a problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Utah View Post
    Jesus IS God.
    Do you believe Jesus is born of God?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Utah View Post
    Yes; me, you and all other Christians.
    How can you speak for anyone other than yourself?

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    Quote Originally Posted by oceanblue View Post
    Do you believe Jesus is born of God?
    I believe you're a jackass trying to cause strife.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Utah View Post
    I believe you're a jackass trying to cause strife.
    Why are you causing strife with me on my thread? Did I sin against you?

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