The Lord's Supper

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zone

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we shared Communion today.
what a blessing. we are so fortunate to have the gift.
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this thread is to discuss all things related to the Bread and Wine, the gift of His body and blood.

 
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I would like to see us address one thing right up front. Some people think the Scriptures say that if you do this meal wrong, you could die because of that mistake in proper performance or mental chastisement.

If you feel this way....... Why? Have you ever seen anyone drop dead because of this? And, to you, what IS meant by doing that ritual improperly?
 

Locutus

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Are you thinking of this Willie?

1 Cor 11:27 Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord.

1 Cor 11:28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup.

1 Cor 11:29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.

1 Cor 11:30 For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep.
 
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Are you thinking of this Willie?

1 Cor 11:27 Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord.

1 Cor 11:28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup.

1 Cor 11:29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.

1 Cor 11:30 For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep.
Those, of course, are the verses....... But I was asking more about the interpretations given those words that influence the opinions surrounding the act.
 
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Its giving thanks for GOD's grace,the sacrifice of our LORD on our behalf.
 
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It has to do with having proper understanding of the new covenant, and especially as it regards the sanctification of the saint.

The initial born again experience isnt very difficult, but to understand and exhibit correct faith on a daily basis after getting saved is more complex.

To know as Christians how to give ourselves more and more to Christ daily, in light of what He did on the tree...the taking of communion in rememberance of Him as it regards His broken body and shed blood is a very serious matter. To believe that the work of doing it earns or effects any favor or merit, as many beliefs do, is taking faith away from the finished work of Jesus exclusively and putting it also into a religious ordinance.

Such a mindset is dangerous to the Christian spirit.
 

oyster67

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I would like to see us address one thing right up front. Some people think the Scriptures say that if you do this meal wrong, you could die because of that mistake in proper performance or mental chastisement.

If you feel this way....... Why? Have you ever seen anyone drop dead because of this? And, to you, what IS meant by doing that ritual improperly?
I personally think that God only cares about whether we love Him or not. I believe that the warnings given in Scripture are addressed to those who are more into legalistic do-it-just-the-right-wayism than focusing on remembrance of the love Jesus had and still has for each and every one of us. In an effort to do things in just the right way, they miss out on the blessing and ironically end up doing things legalistically, which is just what Jesus did not want. They become the ones who partake unworthily because they are not doing it in remembrance of Him. Just the thing that they feared the most is the very thing they end up doing; they mess it up.

The Church I currently attend is so worried about this "doing it the wrong way" that they will only allow members to participate in "their" Communion. In their effort to make things right, they become Judges, pretending to have the mind of God by excluding those they deem to be unfit. They end up being the very ones who are partaking unworthily. Too much carefulness can be a bad thing. This is the lesson that Martha had to learn. Paul himself was a worst case scenario before the Lord knocked him off his horse. Jesus looks at the heart. Membership does not automatically make the heart right.
 
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When partaking of the bread and wine,what is the proper meaning of discerning the Lord's body,for those that discern it wrongly are in error.

1Co 11:27 Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord.
1Co 11:28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup.
1Co 11:29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.
1Co 11:30 For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep.
1Co 11:31 For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged.

The Bible says for a person to examine themselves,for if we would judge ourselves,we should not be judged,before partaking of the bread and wine,so what does the Lord represent,goodness,so it appears as if it means if a person is in a state of having sin in their life,holding unto a sin,they should not partake of the Lord's supper,for what else could it be that we are examining,and judging of ourselves,that would put us in a position of being wrong for partaking of the Lord's supper,and what did the body and blood of Jesus do,took away our sins after we repented of our sins,gave them up,so to hold unto sin when partaking of the Lord's supper is not to discern the body and blood of Christ correctly,that took away our sins.
 

oyster67

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Its giving thanks for GOD's grace,the sacrifice of our LORD on our behalf.
Amen. Jesus said to "do this in remembrance of me". That is what causes the thankfulness that wells up inside us. Many get so caught in the 'how', that they neglect to think about the 'why'.
 

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When partaking of the bread and wine,what is the proper meaning of discerning the Lord's body,for those that discern it wrongly are in error.

1Co 11:27 Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord.
1Co 11:28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup.
1Co 11:29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.
1Co 11:30 For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep.
1Co 11:31 For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged.

The Bible says for a person to examine themselves,for if we would judge ourselves,we should not be judged,before partaking of the bread and wine,so what does the Lord represent,goodness,so it appears as if it means if a person is in a state of having sin in their life,holding unto a sin,they should not partake of the Lord's supper,for what else could it be that we are examining,and judging of ourselves,that would put us in a position of being wrong for partaking of the Lord's supper,and what did the body and blood of Jesus do,took away our sins after we repented of our sins,gave them up,so to hold unto sin when partaking of the Lord's supper is not to discern the body and blood of Christ correctly,that took away our sins.

Hi Jesusrules, If we go a little before that in verse 20-22, we'll see what it means to take the Lord's supper in an unworthy manner.

Therefore when you meet together, it is not to eat the Lord’s Supper, for in your eating each one takes his own supper first; and one is hungry and another is drunk. What! Do you not have houses in which to eat and drink? Or do you despise the church of God and shame those who have nothing? What shall I say to you? Shall I praise you? In this I will not praise you.

This is what brought judgement on the church and this is how taking the Lord's supper was done in an unworthy manner. We are to consider the New Covenant, the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus when we share it.

We're to praise and worship Him and bring Honor to Him for the gift of salvation. We are to see one another as the body of Christ also and not dishonor the body by getting drunk, not waiting for others etc.

We've been to different churches and have seen it done differently. Tradition uses those tiny wafers and a small tiny cup of wine or fruit juice and we've experienced that in churches, that's the normal way it's done I guess when I talk to others about it.

We have shared the Lord's Supper in a home using bread and wine and everyone shares from the same loaf and the same cup. There was also one church we went to that did it that way.

At one, we had a meal and shared the Lord's supper after the meal.

It makes me think of baptism. It's another ritual/sacrament the church observes. When we baptize others we might have a covered dish afterwards in celebration. But the baptism itself is focused on the Lord and the salvation of the person. We're all rejoicing that they've gone from death to life through resurrection.

In the same way, The Lord's Supper is celebrating what Jesus has done for us through His death, burial and resurrection. And it's celebrating the New Covenant in His blood. It's one sacrifice for all. No more sacrifice is needed, Jesus has done it all for us. No more spilt blood, Jesus's blood covers everyones sin and forgive all who would come to Him.

We're celebrating that we've been born again into His death and burial to be raised to new life in Him. We've been set free from the power of sin to obedience by grace through faith. We're celebrating the Gospel (New Covenant) of Jesus Christ and He should be the focus.

Thanks Zone for a great thread to consider the Lord's Supper and what it really means.
 

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I would like to see us address one thing right up front. Some people think the Scriptures say that if you do this meal wrong, you could die because of that mistake in proper performance or mental chastisement.

If you feel this way....... Why? Have you ever seen anyone drop dead because of this? And, to you, what IS meant by doing that ritual improperly?
Yes, the Bible says God punishes sin, and taking the Lords Supper in an unworthy manner is sinning against the body and blood of Christ. It's like this, if you do not have the intention of getting baptized, and are immersed in water, then you only get wet. Otherwise anyone who jumps into a pool is baptized- so baptism without proper intention is not baptism.

In the same way, if you take the Lords Supper without the proper intention, it won't work for the intended purpose. This includes absent mindedly eating and drinking without thinking about Christ on the cross and self examiniantion. Or you didn't pass your self-examination, and partake of it anyways.

Passing self-examination- Everyone sins, yet there are the righteous and the unrighteous. The righteous might visit sin, but they no longer live in sin. You know the difference between visiting somewhere and living there. If you are living as a drunkard for example, and have given no effort to stop, then it's not like you got drunk one night, you get drunk every night, and have for years without fail- you are living in sin. A Christian grows in Christ, they stop sinning. If you sin the same amount, or more, then you are living in sin and not growing in Christ.

If you take the Lords Supper without agreeing that you are walking the narrow road, that's like an alchoholic bring beer to an AA meeting with the intention of getting drunk there. It's like a prostitute going to the cross to commit acts right in front of Him, while smearing His blood on herself saying, "You got me covered for this sin right?" It is blasphemy!

The Lords Supper is for those who are anti-sin, but make a mistake once in a while, but are trying not to sin. It is not for those who are pro-sin, who live to please their own desires instead of to please God. The Bible says that for those who sin purposely like this, that there no longer remains a sacrifice for their sins. They will have to pass judgment day on their own merit and blood, not on Christ's merit or blood.



This is what I think of when I take the Lords Supper...

I remember my Covenant of baptism with Him. How innocent, pure, and clean I felt. How my relationship with God that had been broken by sin was now repaired by Christ. I remember how much I love God and don't want to hurt Him by sinning, and I agree that I have not moved/changed from that position/goal, but is just as strong within me as it was the day I was baptized, and that my growth proves that by progress- by decreasing sins in my life, and growing in Christ.

Then I imagine being at the cross in tears. Blood gets on my cheek from hugging the cross, then I kiss His feet, and blood is on my lips. I look at another Christian, on their knees and in tears- like the look Rose gave that other girl right before the titanic completely sank. I gather a "Lords Supper cup" full of blood dripping down the cross, and stand and peel off the tip of one of His fingernails, and put both on a tray, then fall to my knees.

I look at the other Christian (who to me represents all other Christians), and they shake their head "no". I say "We must", then they slowly shake their head "yes". I look to the tray on the ground, and the blood in the cup turned to grape juice, and the fingernail turned into a cracker. I take a bite and a sip, then pass them the tray. Then I go back to clinging to His cross and close my eyes, while tears roll down my face. I know it seems a lot to picture in such a short time, but it happens kinda fast in my mind.
 
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Here is an interesting article on "taking communion unworthily". I like the fact that people can ask questions at the bottom of the article as I get some more insight from those questions.

Taking Communion in an Unworthy Manner

I remember as a 10 year old boy watching in terror as the communion plate came closer and closer. Why was I afraid? Because there was unresolved sin in my life – I had argued with my sister before church! I knew that those who took communion in an unworthy manner risked condemnation, even death, for the Bible told me so:

1 Cor 11:26 For whenever you eat this bread and drink this cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death until he comes.
1 Cor 11:27 Therefore, whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of sinning against the body and blood of the Lord.
1 Cor 11:28 A man ought to examine himself before he eats of the bread and drinks of the cup.
1 Cor 11:29 For anyone who eats and drinks without recognizing the body of the Lord eats and drinks judgment on himself.
1 Cor 11:30 That is why many among you are weak and sick, and a number of you have fallen asleep.
1 Cor 11:31 But if we judged ourselves, we would not come under judgment.
1 Cor 11:32 When we are judged by the Lord, we are being disciplined so that we will not be condemned with the world.

Thankfully, I was wrong.

This passage above must be one of the most abused and misunderstood passages in the entire Bible. It is regularly used to deny communion to those who need and it is frightening to 10 year olds. It is, in fact, one of the most liberating scriptures in the Bible, yet many believers are condemned by it.

Doesn’t this seem odd to you? After all, this passage was written by the same apostle who said, “there is now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus.” So what’s going on? Did Paul have a change of heart? Is he now saying that God will condemn us if we partake of communion in an unworthy manner?

For if we would judge (diakrino) ourselves, we should not be judged (krino). But when we are judged (krino), we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned (katakrino) with the world. (KJV)

Click on the Greek words italicized above and you will see that diakrino and krino mean to distinguish and decide, while katakrino means to give judgment against or condemn.

In other words, the only time Paul refers to bad judgment (the condemning, punishing kind) in this passage, is when he is referring to those who condemn themselves through unbelief and not the Corinthian Christians. (What about when he says “we are judged by the Lord”? See this post.)

Contrary to what you’ve heard, this is not about Christians examining themselves to see whether they’re worthy of communion. The Bible never says we damn ourselves by taking it in an unworthy manner.

So what sort of judgments or decisions should we make when taking communion? And what does it mean to proclaim the Lord’s death?

To answer these questions we need to look at the two deeds that are represented by the bread and the cup.

The bread

At the Last Supper Jesus handed out the bread, said it was his body, and told the disciples to eat it in remembrance of him (Lk 22:19). He didn’t say much else because no doubt they could all recall the fuss that happened the last time he said he was the bread of life:

I am the bread of life… I am the living bread that came down from heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever. This bread is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world… I tell you the truth, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. (John 6:48,51-54)

As a result of these words many disciples turned away from following Jesus (Jn 6:66). To them, the idea of eating his flesh and drinking his blood was repelling. They did not grasp that Jesus was referring to his impending sacrifice – that he would give up his body in fulfillment of Isaiah 53:4-5 so that we might have life.

What does it mean to eat the flesh of Jesus? It means to behold Jesus and all that He has done for you, both at the whipping post and on the cross.

In communion the bread represents his body which was broken so that you might have life and health. This is good news for the sick, but it will have no effect in your life unless you believe it. In the passage above, Paul is exhorting us to judge whether sickness or health is from God.

Sadly, many believers are confused about these things. They think that God wants them sick so they can learn stuff. They don’t recognize (diakrino) that Jesus gave his body so that we might be healed. By failing to honor his body and blood they take communion in a less than worthy manner. It’s like saying, “Jesus was wounded for nothing,” or “by his wounds I have not been healed.”

Sickness and death are part of the curse of sin (Gen 2:17). Jesus died to set us free from sin and all its effects, but we won’t be free unless we put our faith in his work. The Corinthians were suffering unnecessarily because they were not recognizing or discerning the Lord’s body. “This is why many among you are weak and sick and some have even died.”

It wasn’t that God was judging them for getting drunk at communion. They were suffering the effects of sin because they did not properly value what Christ had done on their behalf at Calvary.

Because they were not judging themselves in light of the finished work of the cross (forgiven, accepted, blessed, healed), they were still experiencing the punishing effects of sin (rejection, sickness, condemnation). Because they weren’t attributing to Christ the full worth of his sacrifice, they were still suffering – in the language of King James – the effects of damnation.

The cup

At the Last Supper Jesus took the cup and announced a new covenant based on his blood:

This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins. (Mt 26:28)

In fear of eating and drinking in an unworthy manner, many Christians treat communion as a time of somber reflection. But proclaiming the Lord’s death should be an occasion of joy and celebration! Was there ever a better reason to party than this?

Think about it: We who were once defiled by sin have been washed white as snow (Is 1:18). Our guilty consciences have been cleansed and our forgiveness has been eternally secured by the precious blood of Jesus (Heb 10:22, 1 Pet 1:19). This is the good news in a cup!

I will provide a line-by-line paraphrase of 1 Corinthians 11:26-32 in my next post, but Paul’s message to the Corinthians can be summed up like this: Judge yourself in light of Christ’s perfect sacrifice. Because of his body and blood, you are forgiven and healed. Learn to discriminate what is from God (e.g., healing) and what is part of sin’s curse (e.g., sickness).

Understand that anything that is not God’s will in heaven (there is no sickness in heaven) is not his will here on earth. When you learn to distinguish what is from God and what is not you are chastened or disciplined (paideauo, literally, trained up or instructed) of the Lord and escape the adverse effects of sin that the rest of the world suffers.

Communion = good news for the sick and unworthy

Are you battling sickness, condemnation and guilt? Then prepare a communion table in the presence of these your enemies and proclaim the Lord’s death! Don’t look at communion as merely a ritual; make it a declaration of faith.

As you take the bread, behold the Lord’s body that was broken so yours could be whole. As you take the cup, discern the Lord’s blood that was shed for all your sins (Heb 10:12). Remind your enemies that they were thoroughly defeated at the cross. Because Jesus has triumphed we can reign in this life (Rms 5:17).

There is no grief or sorrow he did not carry; there is no curse he did not redeem you from (Is 54:4). Judge yourself as God judges you – perfectly righteous, eternally forgiven, and completely whole!

Here is the link for the questions at the bottom if interested.

https://escapetoreality.org/2011/04/10/taking-communion-in-an-unworthy-manner/
 
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I personally think that God only cares about whether we love Him or not. I believe that the warnings given in Scripture are addressed to those who are more into legalistic do-it-just-the-right-wayism than focusing on remembrance of the love Jesus had and still has for each and every one of us. In an effort to do things in just the right way, they miss out on the blessing and ironically end up doing things legalistically, which is just what Jesus did not want. They become the ones who partake unworthily because they are not doing it in remembrance of Him. Just the thing that they feared the most is the very thing they end up doing; they mess it up.

The Church I currently attend is so worried about this "doing it the wrong way" that they will only allow members to participate in "their" Communion. In their effort to make things right, they become Judges, pretending to have the mind of God by excluding those they deem to be unfit. They end up being the very ones who are partaking unworthily. Too much carefulness can be a bad thing. This is the lesson that Martha had to learn. Paul himself was a worst case scenario before the Lord knocked him off his horse. Jesus looks at the heart. Membership does not automatically make the heart right.
Wow! So spot on!
 
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Here is an interesting article on "taking communion unworthily". I like the fact that people can ask questions at the bottom of the article as I get some more insight from those questions.

Taking Communion in an Unworthy Manner

I remember as a 10 year old boy watching in terror as the communion plate came closer and closer. Why was I afraid? Because there was unresolved sin in my life – I had argued with my sister before church! I knew that those who took communion in an unworthy manner risked condemnation, even death, for the Bible told me so:

1 Cor 11:26 For whenever you eat this bread and drink this cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death until he comes.
1 Cor 11:27 Therefore, whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of sinning against the body and blood of the Lord.
1 Cor 11:28 A man ought to examine himself before he eats of the bread and drinks of the cup.
1 Cor 11:29 For anyone who eats and drinks without recognizing the body of the Lord eats and drinks judgment on himself.
1 Cor 11:30 That is why many among you are weak and sick, and a number of you have fallen asleep.
1 Cor 11:31 But if we judged ourselves, we would not come under judgment.
1 Cor 11:32 When we are judged by the Lord, we are being disciplined so that we will not be condemned with the world.

Thankfully, I was wrong.

This passage above must be one of the most abused and misunderstood passages in the entire Bible. It is regularly used to deny communion to those who need and it is frightening to 10 year olds. It is, in fact, one of the most liberating scriptures in the Bible, yet many believers are condemned by it.

Doesn’t this seem odd to you? After all, this passage was written by the same apostle who said, “there is now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus.” So what’s going on? Did Paul have a change of heart? Is he now saying that God will condemn us if we partake of communion in an unworthy manner?

For if we would judge (diakrino) ourselves, we should not be judged (krino). But when we are judged (krino), we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned (katakrino) with the world. (KJV)

Click on the Greek words italicized above and you will see that diakrino and krino mean to distinguish and decide, while katakrino means to give judgment against or condemn.

In other words, the only time Paul refers to bad judgment (the condemning, punishing kind) in this passage, is when he is referring to those who condemn themselves through unbelief and not the Corinthian Christians. (What about when he says “we are judged by the Lord”? See this post.)

Contrary to what you’ve heard, this is not about Christians examining themselves to see whether they’re worthy of communion. The Bible never says we damn ourselves by taking it in an unworthy manner.

So what sort of judgments or decisions should we make when taking communion? And what does it mean to proclaim the Lord’s death?

To answer these questions we need to look at the two deeds that are represented by the bread and the cup.

The bread

At the Last Supper Jesus handed out the bread, said it was his body, and told the disciples to eat it in remembrance of him (Lk 22:19). He didn’t say much else because no doubt they could all recall the fuss that happened the last time he said he was the bread of life:

I am the bread of life… I am the living bread that came down from heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever. This bread is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world… I tell you the truth, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. (John 6:48,51-54)

As a result of these words many disciples turned away from following Jesus (Jn 6:66). To them, the idea of eating his flesh and drinking his blood was repelling. They did not grasp that Jesus was referring to his impending sacrifice – that he would give up his body in fulfillment of Isaiah 53:4-5 so that we might have life.

What does it mean to eat the flesh of Jesus? It means to behold Jesus and all that He has done for you, both at the whipping post and on the cross.

In communion the bread represents his body which was broken so that you might have life and health. This is good news for the sick, but it will have no effect in your life unless you believe it. In the passage above, Paul is exhorting us to judge whether sickness or health is from God.

Sadly, many believers are confused about these things. They think that God wants them sick so they can learn stuff. They don’t recognize (diakrino) that Jesus gave his body so that we might be healed. By failing to honor his body and blood they take communion in a less than worthy manner. It’s like saying, “Jesus was wounded for nothing,” or “by his wounds I have not been healed.”

Sickness and death are part of the curse of sin (Gen 2:17). Jesus died to set us free from sin and all its effects, but we won’t be free unless we put our faith in his work. The Corinthians were suffering unnecessarily because they were not recognizing or discerning the Lord’s body. “This is why many among you are weak and sick and some have even died.”

It wasn’t that God was judging them for getting drunk at communion. They were suffering the effects of sin because they did not properly value what Christ had done on their behalf at Calvary.

Because they were not judging themselves in light of the finished work of the cross (forgiven, accepted, blessed, healed), they were still experiencing the punishing effects of sin (rejection, sickness, condemnation). Because they weren’t attributing to Christ the full worth of his sacrifice, they were still suffering – in the language of King James – the effects of damnation.

The cup

At the Last Supper Jesus took the cup and announced a new covenant based on his blood:

This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins. (Mt 26:28)

In fear of eating and drinking in an unworthy manner, many Christians treat communion as a time of somber reflection. But proclaiming the Lord’s death should be an occasion of joy and celebration! Was there ever a better reason to party than this?

Think about it: We who were once defiled by sin have been washed white as snow (Is 1:18). Our guilty consciences have been cleansed and our forgiveness has been eternally secured by the precious blood of Jesus (Heb 10:22, 1 Pet 1:19). This is the good news in a cup!

I will provide a line-by-line paraphrase of 1 Corinthians 11:26-32 in my next post, but Paul’s message to the Corinthians can be summed up like this: Judge yourself in light of Christ’s perfect sacrifice. Because of his body and blood, you are forgiven and healed. Learn to discriminate what is from God (e.g., healing) and what is part of sin’s curse (e.g., sickness).

Understand that anything that is not God’s will in heaven (there is no sickness in heaven) is not his will here on earth. When you learn to distinguish what is from God and what is not you are chastened or disciplined (paideauo, literally, trained up or instructed) of the Lord and escape the adverse effects of sin that the rest of the world suffers.

Communion = good news for the sick and unworthy

Are you battling sickness, condemnation and guilt? Then prepare a communion table in the presence of these your enemies and proclaim the Lord’s death! Don’t look at communion as merely a ritual; make it a declaration of faith.

As you take the bread, behold the Lord’s body that was broken so yours could be whole. As you take the cup, discern the Lord’s blood that was shed for all your sins (Heb 10:12). Remind your enemies that they were thoroughly defeated at the cross. Because Jesus has triumphed we can reign in this life (Rms 5:17).

There is no grief or sorrow he did not carry; there is no curse he did not redeem you from (Is 54:4). Judge yourself as God judges you – perfectly righteous, eternally forgiven, and completely whole!

Here is the link for the questions at the bottom if interested.

https://escapetoreality.org/2011/04/10/taking-communion-in-an-unworthy-manner/
I am so thankful and awestruck when people filially understand what sharing that meal actually means.
 
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I am so thankful and awestruck when people filially understand what sharing that meal actually means.
Unfortunately the religion of Christianity doesn't like this and will fight against it but the truth will stand and it's the real truth that sets us free to walk with our loving Lord.
 
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Unfortunately the religion of Christianity doesn't like this and will fight against it but the truth will stand and it's the real truth that sets us free to walk with our loving Lord.
Following Christ could be such a blessing.... if it wasn't for "Christianity."
 
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Ariel82

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Bread = Jesus body = manna from heaven
Wine = blood = cleansing of sins

It's a symbolic act to remind us of Jesus sacrifice.
 

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[SUP]20 [/SUP]But I say, that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils, and not to God: and I would not that ye should have fellowship with devils.
[SUP]21 [/SUP]Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of the Lord's table, and of the table of devils.
[SUP]22 [/SUP]Do we provoke the Lord to jealousy? are we stronger than he?
[SUP]23 [/SUP]All things are lawful for me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but all things edify not. 1 Corinthians 10:20-23




[SUP]14 [/SUP]If I then, your Lord and Master, have washed your feet; ye also ought to wash one another's feet.
[SUP]15 [/SUP]For I have given you an example, that ye should do as I have done to you.
[SUP]16 [/SUP]Verily, verily, I say unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord; neither he that is sent greater than he that sent him. John 13:14-16

How many today wash each others feet after they eat, and drink.
 
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One of the sad things about this forum is that so many people seem to believe that the more words they throw at a subject, the truer THAT particular opinion will have to become.

To that point, may I narrow things down a bit, and ask one or two simple questions? In these verses, WHO DIES, and specifically, WHY DOES THEIR BODY (if it, indeed, IS their body that dies) CEASE TO FUNCTION?
 
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