STUDYING GALATIANS 1 - WHAT'S THE TRUE GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST

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Desertsrose

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Has anyone here studied Galatians?

I'm doing a study on it now and boy is Paul hot under the collar. He's furious in fact.

The problem that's happening is that the Galatians in chapter 1 verse 6 are quickly deserting Jesus who called them by the grace of Christ for a different gospel. Paul was amazed that they did such a thing. They began right, but were quickly being led astray.

Paul goes on to say that it's not really another gospel, but it's a distortion of the gospel of Christ. There are some who are among them that are disturbing the true faith the Galatians have in Christ.

Paul says - let those be cursed - whether an angel from heaven, any man and even Paul himself if they preach a gospel that is contrary to the true gospel. That's pretty heavy!

~ One of our study questions ~
Do you present the biblical gospel to others and what distortions of the gospel are you finding out there in the world?

I can think of a couple, but I wanted more input as I study and answer the questions being asked. I'm not out there in social settings or in public much because of health issues so I need some of your experiences with this if you don't mind sharing.

~ Another question ~
How might I be distorting the gospel? That's a personal question, but can you think of ways the gospel is being distorted by your own actions or words?

That question caught me off guard. I'm going to consider it and contemplate on it for a while. I'm going to read the scriptures and see what the word really says about what the gospel is.

All input is welcome and thanks!

 

Locutus

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Paul's main point (along with others) is:

Gal 2:21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.

Gal 3:11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.
 

Joidevivre

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There are doctrinal distortions - many in fact, that bypass the entire message of the cross.

But personally, I have read that I am a "fragrance of Christ" to others. So, every time I do not forgive, do not love unconditionally, let pride determine my actions towards others, take some sort of revenge, neglect the needs of others and put myself first bypassing the need for sacrificial love, I am distorting the gospel.

The gospel is literally read by our actions since we are the body of Christ. We can either choose to allow His life to overshadow our feelings, or not.
 

Desertsrose

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Paul's main point (along with others) is:

Gal 2:21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.

Gal 3:11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.
Thanks Locutus,

I'm not in the other chapters yet so thanks for that! Here's how my version reads.

Galatians 2:21 I do not nullify the grace of God, for if righteousness comes through the Law, then Christ died needlessly.”

I think nullify might be the better word than frustrate.

NAS Exhaustive Concordance
Word Origin
from athetos (without position or place); from alpha (as a neg. prefix) and tithémi
Definition
to do away with what has been laid down, set aside
NASB Translation
nullify (1), refuse (1), reject (1),
rejected (1), rejects (6), rejecting (1),
set aside (3), sets...aside (1), setting aside (1).

3:11 helps because adding in the law is distorting the gospel of Christ. Thanks!
 

Desertsrose

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There are doctrinal distortions - many in fact, that bypass the entire message of the cross.

But personally, I have read that I am a "fragrance of Christ" to others. So, every time I do not forgive, do not love unconditionally, let pride determine my actions towards others, take some sort of revenge, neglect the needs of others and put myself first bypassing the need for sacrificial love, I am distorting the gospel.

The gospel is literally read by our actions since we are the body of Christ. We can either choose to allow His life to overshadow our feelings, or not.

Great response Joidevivre.

It would be great if you were in the class! :) It's an online study and we connect with others taking the class through free conferencing.

That's kind of where my thoughts were taking me. Once the gospel is birthed within, how are we living it out.
 
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"Galatianism" is being saved by grace through faith in Jesus Christ and then returning to the self effort of the Law to try and perfect yourself.

The greatest obsticle in persuading people to abandon Galatianism is that putting people under the Law produces an appearance of maturity and character in them. But it is an artificial facade. As Paul says in Colossians 2:23, "such regulations indeed have an appearance of wisdom, with their self-imposed worship, their false humility and their harsh treatment of the body, but they lack any value in restraining sensual indulgence."

IOW, Paul is saying that adherence to laws can make a person look good on the outside, but it cannot change the heart or build internal character. Law cannot produce growth and grace, in fact it actually works against the process of growing in grace, because the Bible says, "the power of sin is the Law" (Corinthians 15:56).

As long as people are kept under the Law, they are kept under the power of sin. The Law is not only powerless to change a heart, it actually stirs up sinful desires in us. "I would not have known what sin was except through the Law. For I would not have known what coveting really was if the Law have not said, 'do not covet'. But sin, seizing the opportunity afforded by the commandment, produced in me every kind of covetous desire. For apart from the Law, sin is dead" (Romans 7:7,8).
 
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Magenta

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Do you present the biblical gospel to others and what distortions of the gospel are you finding out there in the world?
I abhor the distortions people have been touting for so long they are taken for granted. No amount of placing opposing Scriptures before their eyes will change their warped view, which is especially repulsive because they strike at the very character of God. How they rationalize turning God into a sadistic monster, I really don't understand.
 
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~ One of our study questions ~
Do you present the biblical gospel to others and what distortions of the gospel are you finding out there in the world?
Christ's gospel is the good news of Christ in respect to the faith of Christ that works in us to both will and do His good pleasure..

Not distinguishing where and who the faith comes from can make the gospel in respect to the faith of Christ without effect and therefore follow another Christ, as the antichrists..many

Since we all should have a mutual faith.. it must be of the same spirit of faith... according as it is written, Christ’s.

If we would have it as the things of men we would be blaspheming the holy name by which we are called heavenward. Blasphemy is to attribute the work of one to another.

2Corinthians 4:13 We having the same spirit of faith (Christ's) , according as it is written, I believed, and therefore have I spoken; we also believe, and therefore speak;

Again failing to distinguish between the things of God from that of men can lead to a false gospel. it is shown to ofefnd God

We can see that working out below with Peter having a faith in respect to his own self or the fathers

Mat 16:22 Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee.
But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men Mat 16:23

One thing I offer when holding out the gospel, the word of God as it is written by the faith of Christ...to the same work of faith (faith to faith) is to say not to look to me as if I was the author and finisher of faith .Christ alone is.

For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith (Christ’s) to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by (Christ’s) faith. Rom 1:16
 
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Desertsrose

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I abhor the distortions people have been touting for so long they are taken for granted. No amount of placing opposing Scriptures before their eyes will change their warped view, which is especially repulsive because they strike at the very character of God. How they rationalize turning God into a sadistic monster, I really don't understand.

Thanks Magenta!

Yeah, I understand after reading some of the posts here on CC. But I'm wondering if there mainstream problems or are there just a few who want to distort the gospel here? Are they wolves, weak brothers and sisters or what?

So what would be your view of the gospel if you were to share with someone. What emphasis would you make as Paul is making to the Galatians of what it is or what it isn't?

As I'm looking at all the scriptures I can find that speaks of the gospel, I'm getting pretty excited about knowing firmly what I believe according to scripture. :)
 

Desertsrose

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Christ's gospel is the good news of Christ in respect to the faith of Christ that works in us to both will and do His good pleasure..

Not distinguishing where and who the faith comes from can make the gospel in respect to the faith of Christ without effect and therefore follow another Christ, as the antichrists..many

Since we all should have a mutual faith.. it must be of the same spirit of faith... according as it is written, Christ’s.

If we would have it as the things of men we would be blaspheming the holy name by which we are called heavenward. Blasphemy is to attribute the work of one to another.

2Corinthians 4:13 We having the same spirit of faith (Christ's) , according as it is written, I believed, and therefore have I spoken; we also believe, and therefore speak;

Again failing to distinguish between the things of God from that of men can lead to a false gospel. it is shown to ofefnd God

We can see that working out below with Peter having a faith in respect to his own self or the fathers

Mat 16:22 Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee.
But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men Mat 16:23

One thing I offer when holding out the gospel, the word of God as it is written by the faith of Christ...to the same work of faith (faith to faith) is to say not to look to me as if I was the author and finisher of faith .Christ alone is.

For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith (Christ’s) to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by (Christ’s) faith. Rom 1:16
Thanks, Garee!

Romans 1:16 was one of the cross references we looked up. :)

So if you were to share the gospel with someone, how would you share it. It may be the first and last time you see this person so what would you say to them.

They're an unbeliever through and through. You've got an hour with them. What's the gospel truth you want to leave with her?
 
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That's kind of where my thoughts were taking me. Once the gospel is birthed within, how are we living it out.
We live it out by working it out because it is Christ working in us to both will and do his good pleasure(imputed righteousness) We don’t work for it to gain it, we work out that which he gives as a free gift.


We can be foolish like the Galatians by not keeping God in our hearts. .The gospel is birthed by the hearing of faith (Christ) and not that of our own flesh .

If salvation begun there as a work of His Spirit , he will finish it to end... by the same authority ,the hearing of faith. Our first love by which we could believe God.Seeing without his faith no one could find him out, to receive His understanding.

O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you?”( by hearing God as he gives us His faith to make it possible to believe God). This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the “hearing of faith?Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?Have ye suffered so many things in vain? if it be yet in vain.He therefore that ministereth to you the Spirit, and worketh miracles among you, doeth he it by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? Gal 3:1
 
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Thanks, Garee!
Romans 1:16 was one of the cross references we looked up.
Again connect the faith needed to believe God as the mutual faith that works in us to the proper entity (Christ's) .

Roman 1:16 is a reflection of verse 12 it sets the context.

For I long to see you, that I may impart unto you some spiritual gift, to the end ye may be established; That is, that I may be comforted together with you by the mutual faith(Christ) both of you and me.Rom 1:12

So if you were to share the gospel with someone, how would you share it. It may be the first and last time you see this person so what would you say to them.

They're an unbeliever through and through. You've got an hour with them. What's the gospel truth you want to leave with her?
First and foremost I would try and inform them in a hope that God might work to apply it to the hearts, that the mutual faith of all Christians is in respect to Christ alone. Having the faith of Christ, as the work of Christ that mutually works in all believers in respect to other persons or our own selves is to blaspheme the Holy name by which we are called.

I would suggest trust God by a work of His faith seeing he alone causes it (faith)to grow if there is growth.

He must continually increase all the days of our lives as we decrease. And then we will have help in our unbelief. His burden is light.
 
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Magenta

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Thanks Magenta!

Yeah, I understand after reading some of the posts here on CC. But I'm wondering if there mainstream problems or are there just a few who want to distort the gospel here? Are they wolves, weak brothers and sisters or what?

So what would be your view of the gospel if you were to share with someone. What emphasis would you make as Paul is making to the Galatians of what it is or what it isn't?

As I'm looking at all the scriptures I can find that speaks of the gospel, I'm getting pretty excited about knowing firmly what I believe according to scripture. :)
You are welcome, Desertrose :) I think the essential message of the gospel is encapsulated in John 3:16, which is probably why it is one of the most well known and best loved single verses from our Good Book. Sharing with people who do not believe is something I did over a period of eight years online before I found my way here. People are very entrenched in their long held beliefs, which contributes to them being closed minded, and as we know even believers do not change their long held beliefs when the Truth of God's Word is presented to them. I was really reminded of this when a Mormon joined us recently. The journey from what they believe to what we accept as core Christian beliefs seemed an overwhelming journey, and yet we know that all things are possible with God. I digress.

I think starting with God's love is a good jumping off point. God created the universe and all that is and gave us life. Man has chosen to follow his own way above the ways of God, which are just and harm no one out of love, which is the fulfillment of all the law and prophets and the greatest commandment given to us to adhere to. I would hope that the other person could at least acknowledge that mans' ways are destructive. Man's way leads to death. God offers a life more abundant. If they have any deep sorrow or suffering in their life they may actually be more open to the fact that there is a power greater than them self and that their suffering is a result of sin. From there I would move to the love of Jesus and the fact that we are forgiven; a way has been made for us to be at peace and reconciled to God.
 

Bladerunner

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Has anyone here studied Galatians?

I'm doing a study on it now and boy is Paul hot under the collar. He's furious in fact.

The problem that's happening is that the Galatians in chapter 1 verse 6 are quickly deserting Jesus who called them by the grace of Christ for a different gospel. Paul was amazed that they did such a thing. They began right, but were quickly being led astray.

Paul goes on to say that it's not really another gospel, but it's a distortion of the gospel of Christ. There are some who are among them that are disturbing the true faith the Galatians have in Christ.

Paul says - let those be cursed - whether an angel from heaven, any man and even Paul himself if they preach a gospel that is contrary to the true gospel. That's pretty heavy!

~ One of our study questions ~
Do you present the biblical gospel to others and what distortions of the gospel are you finding out there in the world?

I can think of a couple, but I wanted more input as I study and answer the questions being asked. I'm not out there in social settings or in public much because of health issues so I need some of your experiences with this if you don't mind sharing.

~ Another question ~
How might I be distorting the gospel? That's a personal question, but can you think of ways the gospel is being distorted by your own actions or words?

That question caught me off guard. I'm going to consider it and contemplate on it for a while. I'm going to read the scriptures and see what the word really says about what the gospel is.

All input is welcome and thanks!


Desertsrose it has been a while....... good to talk to you again. Paul had some time in the past after the Church at Ephesus preached to the Church of Galatian.He has been gone but received info that the some of the members had gone back to worshiping the (as he described it), "The Other Gospel". This 'Other Gospel' placed" faith plus works" or "Works alone" in order to get to Heaven. Paul had taught them Grace was received by faith alone. So, what you are reading is a mad Paul that people would turn away from Jesus' Gospel (1 Cor 15, 1-4). It is quite colorful in the early chapters but in Chapter 5:1-5 a warning that should ring out to every body who believes that one has to have Works to get to Heaven.

In Chapter 5 he essentially tells them that YES they can lose their salvation if they turn away from him and go by works. This would mean that they would go back to being under the law. Under the law(s) all 366 of them, one cannot fail in one or it is over. If, fact I know of only one person (man) who was perfect during his lifetime.

If you will look at Chapter 5:1,, It states the they should not AGAIN with the yoke of bondage. This AGAIN gives us the insight that they had at one time followed the law and not by faith. This is not in itself is surprising since there were many Jews that rejected Jesus Christ as the Messiah Nagid.

Read carefully ch 5: 2-4..... verse 2 tells us that if they go BACK to the Law, Jesus will have nothing to do with them.
In Ch 5:4..actually tells them that if they again take to the laws, their Grace (salvation) will be lost.

NOTE: Before everyone gets in an uproar,,,,, in John 10:28-29.... Jesus tells us that No MAN can snatch them from his and His Father's hand(s)

Here t is not a MAN that is going to snatch them out of his hands, but rather the person themselves that turn against Jesus Christ.

So "CAN one lose Salvation once SAVED??? over the years many have said NO and have thus had a get FREE out of Jail card. However, recently in history, many denominations are preaching Faith along with works as the way to get to HEAVEN. The way I read this and so do several other people...YES you can LOSE YOU SALVATION if YOU TURN Away from GRACE by Faith alone.

Hope you have a Blessed Day

Blade
 

Desertsrose

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"Galatianism" is being saved by grace through faith in Jesus Christ and then returning to the self effort of the Law to try and perfect yourself.

The greatest obsticle in persuading people to abandon Galatianism is that putting people under the Law produces an appearance of maturity and character in them. But it is an artificial facade. As Paul says in Colossians 2:23, "such regulations indeed have an appearance of wisdom, with their self-imposed worship, their false humility and their harsh treatment of the body, but they lack any value in restraining sensual indulgence."

IOW, Paul is saying that adherence to laws can make a person look good on the outside, but it cannot change the heart or build internal character. Law cannot produce growth and grace, in fact it actually works against the process of growing in grace, because the Bible says, "the power of sin is the Law" (Corinthians 15:56).

As long as people are kept under the Law, they are kept under the power of sin. The Law is not only powerless to change a heart, it actually stirs up sinful desires in us. "I would not have known what sin was except through the Law. For I would not have known what coveting really was if the Law have not said, 'do not covet'. But sin, seizing the opportunity afforded by the commandment, produced in me every kind of covetous desire. For apart from the Law, sin is dead" (Romans 7:7,8).

Thanks FreenChrist,

Amen! Thanks for those scriptures. They are great for this study and I'll be sure to use those in my notes.

You know, I think this is the longest post I've seen from you. I hope to see more.
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Desertsrose

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That's kind of where my thoughts were taking me. Once the gospel is birthed within, how are we living it out.
We live it out by working it out because it is Christ working in us to both will and do his good pleasure(imputed righteousness) We don’t work for it to gain it, we work out that which he gives as a free gift.


We can be foolish like the Galatians by not keeping God in our hearts. .The gospel is birthed by the hearing of faith (Christ) and not that of our own flesh .

If salvation begun there as a work of His Spirit , he will finish it to end... by the same authority ,the hearing of faith. Our first love by which we could believe God.Seeing without his faith no one could find him out, to receive His understanding.

O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you?”( by hearing God as he gives us His faith to make it possible to believe God). This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the “hearing of faith?Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?Have ye suffered so many things in vain? if it be yet in vain.He therefore that ministereth to you the Spirit, and worketh miracles among you, doeth he it by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? Gal 3:1
​Thanks Garee,

Great comments and I'm sure I'll be revisiting all these posts as I go further in the study.

I was a little weepy because one of the things you mentioned is what God brought to my mind.

Another question asked was if we get excited when someone comes to the Lord. And also if we get excited if we have the opportunity to preach the gospel.

Returning to my first love came to mind right away because I remember when I cried every time someone went up front to be saved. Although part of that problem is that I'm not going to one of our former churches where that happens petty often.

But I knew in my heart that I've lost that newness of being born again and the excitement that goes along with that. Not that I'm saying we need to go on feelings, but I know I need to revisit my first love - the love of the Lord and what all that means.

Actually when I was saved I didn't know all the gospel. All I knew was that I was a sinner and that God had touched my heart because I didn't want to live the way I was living anymore and the peace of God visited my heart. It was later on that I began to understand what it was that Jesus did for me. I knew he loved me and forgave me, but the was about it.
 

Lorettamarie

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I like what you said about the law making you look good and proper on the outside but being unable to change the heart, i have been reading isaiah lately, it has been saying the same thing, god was sick of their rituals and their sacrifices, they didnt have a change of heart toeards sin they just saceificed more and more to atone for their wrong doing, the law couldnt change the peoples heart so he gives them a promise of a messiah a saviour
 

Desertsrose

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You are welcome, Desertrose :) I think the essential message of the gospel is encapsulated in John 3:16, which is probably why it is one of the most well known and best loved single verses from our Good Book. Sharing with people who do not believe is something I did over a period of eight years online before I found my way here. People are very entrenched in their long held beliefs, which contributes to them being closed minded, and as we know even believers do not change their long held beliefs when the Truth of God's Word is presented to them. I was really reminded of this when a Mormon joined us recently. The journey from what they believe to what we accept as core Christian beliefs seemed an overwhelming journey, and yet we know that all things are possible with God. I digress.

I think starting with God's love is a good jumping off point. God created the universe and all that is and gave us life. Man has chosen to follow his own way above the ways of God, which are just and harm no one out of love, which is the fulfillment of all the law and prophets and the greatest commandment given to us to adhere to. I would hope that the other person could at least acknowledge that mans' ways are destructive. Man's way leads to death. God offers a life more abundant. If they have any deep sorrow or suffering in their life they may actually be more open to the fact that there is a power greater than them self and that their suffering is a result of sin. From there I would move to the love of Jesus and the fact that we are forgiven; a way has been made for us to be at peace and reconciled to God.

Thanks again, Magenta.

That's kind of all I knew the day I was
born again. Actually I didn't even know John 3:16. I didn't grow up in church or anything so it was all new to me.

One thing that Kay Arthur mentioned in one of the studies I've done is that we share the truth with others we then let God reveal that seed of truth to them.

So she was addressing the fact that many Christians don't share the gospel because they don't know enough or because they don't know how to answer someone's questions. And also because they feel bad if someone doesn't respond or responds in a negative way.

She basically said don't worry about the others response. Just be faithful to how God has you respond. You seed, another waters and God is the one who gives the increase. And how true that is. We can't save anyone.

She said it to take the heavy burden that many carry - that it's their responsibility to convince someone of a spiritual truth.....and it really helped me see that I don't need to fight over the truth, just present it.

But here in this venue it's a little different because there are so many listening to some false teachings in the threads, it's almost like you have to keep responding and can't just leave it with them because they may be leading others down a wrong path so the truth needs to continually be presented.

I agree that many are intrenched in what they believe and won't move an inch towards what scripture says. Some of them I don't think have the Spirit of the Lord within them. Maybe they're following religion instead of Jesus.

So anyway, yeah, keeping it simple at first is probably a good idea and then build on that if the opportunity is there. That's all I needed to be saved. The knowledge that Jesus loved me, that I'm a sinner and needed to repent was all I needed.

Another thought that just came to me is that the Holy Spirit leads us also into what to say and it may not be the same thing that I'll share with one as with someone else.

Great thoughts and thanks again!

 

Desertsrose

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Desertsrose it has been a while....... good to talk to you again. Paul had some time in the past after the Church at Ephesus preached to the Church of Galatian.He has been gone but received info that the some of the members had gone back to worshiping the (as he described it), "The Other Gospel". This 'Other Gospel' placed" faith plus works" or "Works alone" in order to get to Heaven. Paul had taught them Grace was received by faith alone. So, what you are reading is a mad Paul that people would turn away from Jesus' Gospel (1 Cor 15, 1-4). It is quite colorful in the early chapters but in Chapter 5:1-5 a warning that should ring out to every body who believes that one has to have Works to get to Heaven.

In Chapter 5 he essentially tells them that YES they can lose their salvation if they turn away from him and go by works. This would mean that they would go back to being under the law. Under the law(s) all 366 of them, one cannot fail in one or it is over. If, fact I know of only one person (man) who was perfect during his lifetime.

If you will look at Chapter 5:1,, It states the they should not AGAIN with the yoke of bondage. This AGAIN gives us the insight that they had at one time followed the law and not by faith. This is not in itself is surprising since there were many Jews that rejected Jesus Christ as the Messiah Nagid.

Read carefully ch 5: 2-4..... verse 2 tells us that if they go BACK to the Law, Jesus will have nothing to do with them.
In Ch 5:4..actually tells them that if they again take to the laws, their Grace (salvation) will be lost.

NOTE: Before everyone gets in an uproar,,,,, in John 10:28-29.... Jesus tells us that No MAN can snatch them from his and His Father's hand(s)

Here t is not a MAN that is going to snatch them out of his hands, but rather the person themselves that turn against Jesus Christ.

So "CAN one lose Salvation once SAVED??? over the years many have said NO and have thus had a get FREE out of Jail card. However, recently in history, many denominations are preaching Faith along with works as the way to get to HEAVEN. The way I read this and so do several other people...YES you can LOSE YOU SALVATION if YOU TURN Away from GRACE by Faith alone.

Hope you have a Blessed Day

Blade

Hey Bladerunner! Thanks for the verses in chapter 5. I'm not
there yet, but I'll get there soon enough and keep in mind what you've said.

And yeah, Paul is so upset because they began by faith and now they want to go back to works again. They're entangling themselves in something that they've been freed from.

I haven't looked yet, but anyone know if the Galatians were a mixed group? It seems like there must have been some Jews and Gentiles at the Galatian churches. Paul wrote in very 2 - To the churches of Galatia.
 

Bladerunner

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Hey Bladerunner! Thanks for the verses in chapter 5. I'm not
there yet, but I'll get there soon enough and keep in mind what you've said.

And yeah, Paul is so upset because they began by faith and now they want to go back to works again. They're entangling themselves in something that they've been freed from.

I haven't looked yet, but anyone know if the Galatians were a mixed group? It seems like there must have been some Jews and Gentiles at the Galatian churches. Paul wrote in very 2 - To the churches of Galatia.

At that time it was mixed with more Gentiles than Jews. Keep in mind this was probably around one to two years after he had preached to them...In fact, while he was preaching to them, the Church of Ephisus was having no problems with what He had preached to them.

You are welcome and Hope you have a very Blessed day.

Blade