Is it always like this here?

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I think...that maybe even saying something is a lie is tricky. It brings with it the connotation that they are trying to deceive on purpose and this might just be where they are in understanding. I think it's better to just say: I disagree, state the scripture you base your thought on, and then explain your own thought. To say that's a lie is not the best way to respond, in my opinion. And it will make them not hear you from the very first sentence because you have made them defensive!

You have a much better chance of the Spirit working to bring unity if you can disagree without starting off with: that's a lie!
 

Roughsoul1991

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One thing to think about too is most of the prophets we're hated and disliked because they didn't feed the people only good news. They would praise the good and deny the bad or try to kill the messenger. I mean we have a good look at what Paul went through. Being stoned a few times, whipped, imprisonment, beaten and eventually death by sword. Being a disciple isn't easy and I'm afraid are going to find that tested more so very soon.

There is a study out about how in 2075 if Jesus hasn't returned. The Islamic theocracy will have surpassed Christianity. Why? They are judging the growth that is so rapid in Europe due to immigration and the allowance to except Islam as an equal religion. Not understanding their Religion wants to be the only religion. Second is because Islam families are having more kids and 70% are to remain in the faith of Islam.

I see this because if this is true we see a very real evil growing ever closer to emerge into our political systems. As one of the Muslims said quote," We will win the world through the woman's womb."

My whole point in chasing this rabbit is we better find ways to unite and remember in prayer, fasting, and unity will God revive his nation's and put the fear back into our adversaries.
 
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Jesus was the most truthful and loving Person who ever lived. There were times when people sat quietly and listened to Jesus teach, and there were other times when people were trying to kill him. Paul said that all those who live Godly in Christ Jesus will suffer persecution.
 
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One thing to think about too is most of the prophets we're hated and disliked because they didn't feed the people only good news. They would praise the good and deny the bad or try to kill the messenger. I mean we have a good look at what Paul went through. Being stoned a few times, whipped, imprisonment, beaten and eventually death by sword. Being a disciple isn't easy and I'm afraid are going to find that tested more so very soon.

There is a study out about how in 2075 if Jesus hasn't returned. The Islamic theocracy will have surpassed Christianity. Why? They are judging the growth that is so rapid in Europe due to immigration and the allowance to except Islam as an equal religion. Not understanding their Religion wants to be the only religion. Second is because Islam families are having more kids and 70% are to remain in the faith of Islam.

I see this because if this is true we see a very real evil growing ever closer to emerge into our political systems. As one of the Muslims said quote," We will win the world through the woman's womb."

My whole point in chasing this rabbit is we better find ways to unite and remember in prayer, fasting, and unity will God revive his nation's and put the fear back into our adversaries.
They were liked when the message was gracious to their ears and stoned when it wasn't.

With statistics, always take into account that when they involve any sort of growth component, they never include factoring in of exponential growth. But growth doesn't happen without that exponential factor. So the statistics are usually underestimated. Don't know if I got that across well...
 

Magenta

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One thing to think about too is most of the prophets we're hated and disliked because they didn't feed the people only good news. They would praise the good and deny the bad or try to kill the messenger. I mean we have a good look at what Paul went through. Being stoned a few times, whipped, imprisonment, beaten and eventually death by sword. Being a disciple isn't easy and I'm afraid are going to find that tested more so very soon.

There is a study out about how in 2075 if Jesus hasn't returned. The Islamic theocracy will have surpassed Christianity. Why? They are judging the growth that is so rapid in Europe due to immigration and the allowance to except Islam as an equal religion. Not understanding their Religion wants to be the only religion. Second is because Islam families are having more kids and 70% are to remain in the faith of Islam.

I see this because if this is true we see a very real evil growing ever closer to emerge into our political systems. As one of the Muslims said quote," We will win the world through the woman's womb."

My whole point in chasing this rabbit is we better find ways to unite and remember in prayer, fasting, and unity will God revive his nation's and put the fear back into our adversaries.
I am so thankful that there are people awake to the threat that is the spread of Islam, despite the very real deception trying to block any protest by name calling, such as we have seen worldwide with Brexit supporters, and then Trump, being called racists, as if Islam were a race, when it is not. Mohammed was an adulterous war mongering pedophile, and as the ideal person elevated as a hero and their prophet, Muslim men follow in his footsteps, marrying children and having multiple wives, while being terrible tramplers on the human rights of women. Their barbaric practices and savagery have not penetrated the ignorant minds of people who believe they are upholding tolerance while they attempt to shut down opposing views, and political correctness has reached fever pitches in making it illegal to tell the truth about their criminal behavior.
 
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I am so thankful that there are people awake to the threat that is the spread of Islam, despite the very real deception trying to block any protest by name calling, such as we have seen worldwide with Brexit supporters, and then Trump, being called racists, as if Islam were a race, when it is not. Mohammed was an adulterous war mongering pedophile, and as the ideal person elevated as a hero and their prophet, Muslim men follow in his footsteps, marrying children and having multiple wives, while being terrible tramplers on the human rights of women. Their barbaric practices and savagery have not penetrated the ignorant minds of people who believe they are upholding tolerance while they attempt to shut down opposing views, and political correctness has reached fever pitches in making it illegal to tell the truth about their criminal behavior.
Not to mention the fact that it has to occur to people at some point that there is not a single country on earth that is majority this "religion of peace" that is in a state of peace. Not a single one.
 
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Everybody should watch hacksaw ridge. That man was faith in action. And talk about surviving something purely on love. No weapon but love in his heart..just a love for his fellow man and wanting to make a difference while serving God and his country.
 

Magenta

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Not to mention the fact that it has to occur to people at some point that there is not a single country on earth that is majority this "religion of peace" that is in a state of peace. Not a single one.
I was a little disappointed when Geert Wilders did not win the election in Holland recently. He has been living pretty much under guard for twelve years because he speaks out against Islam, and in fact he was charged and sentenced with hate speech for recording the teachings of Islam and making a short documentary on it. Because as I said, it is against the law to tell the truth about Mohammed, and Islam.

[video=youtube;2HlptyGvlIY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HlptyGvlIY[/video]
 

Magenta

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Everybody should watch hacksaw ridge. That man was faith in action. And talk about surviving something purely on love. No weapon but love in his heart..just a love for his fellow man and wanting to make a difference while serving God and his country.
I agree, it was an amazing and really inspiring movie, mostly based on fact, too! :)
 

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I may come across naive, but why is it not allowed to mock Islam? It's like the authorities goes into some special kind of trance whenever somebody's speaks their mind on Islam, and needs to immediately incarcerate said people...
 
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I may come across naive, but why is it not allowed to mock Islam? It's like the authorities goes into some special kind of trance whenever somebody's speaks their mind on Islam, and needs to immediately incarcerate said people...
It's something that happens when...you are pushing something that really won't hold up under scrutiny. You don't want to lose your position, your privilege, your place of power over people. The church here has been guilty of some of the same things. They would not allow scripture to be translated in languages other than Latin because they were pushing things and practices that wouldn't hold up under scrutiny, and if the common folk can read it for themselves in their own language, questions are going to come about the inconsistencies, or in other words, scrutiny's going to happen. You have two moves to choose from or a combination of the two moves - keep knowledge from the common folk and/or squash the merest whisper of questions and curiosities and examinations.
 

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[SUP]1 [/SUP]Jude, the servant of Jesus Christ, and brother of James, to them that are sanctified by God the Father, and preserved in Jesus Christ, and called:
[SUP]2 [/SUP]Mercy unto you, and peace, and love, be multiplied.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]I will therefore put you in remembrance, though ye once knew this, how that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed them that believed not.
[SUP]6 [/SUP]And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

[SUP]7 [/SUP]Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots;
[SUP]13 [/SUP]Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever.



[SUP]14 [/SUP]And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,
[SUP]15 [/SUP]To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.
[SUP]16 [/SUP]These are murmurers, complainers, walking after their own lusts; and their mouth speaketh great swelling words, having men's persons in admiration because of advantage.
[SUP]17 [/SUP]But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ;
[SUP]18 [/SUP]How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.
[SUP]19 [/SUP]These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.
[SUP]20 [/SUP]But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost,
[SUP]21 [/SUP]Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.
[SUP]22 [/SUP]And of some have compassion, making a difference:

[SUP]23 [/SUP]And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.
[SUP]24 [/SUP]Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy,
[SUP]25 [/SUP]To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen. Jude
 

Roughsoul1991

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I may come across naive, but why is it not allowed to mock Islam? It's like the authorities goes into some special kind of trance whenever somebody's speaks their mind on Islam, and needs to immediately incarcerate said people...
Because you have the people of the world that believe the majority of the religion is peaceful and that we can coexist together one big happy melting pot of a family. And immigration is great, its what built this country but what many leaders don't understand Islam is not taught to coexist they are taught to convert or die. We are just lucky not all Muslims live by Sharia law. I mean how can we trust a belief that promotes lying to infidels to help prepare for jihadists to kill in the name of allah.

Anyone without Yahweh are easily mislead to believe the lies of the world. And these leaders are only starting see their wrong doing. Just this week 1 known Muslim immigrant and another kid not sure yet what he was but 18 and 17 year old boys up in Maryland are in 9th grade because they don't speak English and education level. These 2 guys attacked and raped a 14 year old girl, we also see the London attack.

And we know the Muslim brotherhood is all into politics helping these leaders believe in nonsense. We as Christians must get Jesus back in the homes, get Christians active in politics, active in the police and military, a Christian president is always good, and just as important making sure our hearts are right in prayer and fasting.

Another we can do is train ourselves in counter terrorism. And report suspicion to the authorities.

And remember our children are going to be facing the worst of this If nothing changes. As young as 1 start training them in the ways of the Lord.
 

Zmouth

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That's why I try to be careful about using the words "heretic & heretics" and the phrases "false teacher(s)/false prophet(s)".
An yet you managed to get them all in and in one sentence too. Bravo! :rolleyes:
 

MadebyHim

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Almost like sitting around a campfire, swatting mosquito's at times huh. Or shooing flies away from food.
 
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here is where our hearts are in training, for bigger and better things to come!:):)
 
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A man said something like: we are put on this earth for a space to learn to bear the beams of love.