Why has the mainstream church become a powerless church?

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stonesoffire

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My answer has always been because of denying Holy Spirit to move...but am beginning to see more to this..

What do you all see?
 
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The lack of the preaching and teaching of the true gospel of the grace of God which is only found in Christ alone. They are preaching works-based humanistic beliefs which in effect are denying the finished work of Christ alone which is by grace through faith in His finished work on the cross and resurrection.

One of the reasons that people are not coming into the churches and the prodigals are not streaming back into the mainstream church is that both groups of people have been met at the door by the older judgmental self-righteous brother instead of meeting the Father at the door.
 
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My answer has always been because of denying Holy Spirit to move...but am beginning to see more to this..

What do you all see?
I see a church that has painted themselves into a corner. It looks more like a club that has more interest in gaining members to to fill thier coffers to pay the salaries to people who will encourage people to come to their light shows and fluff to fill their coffers to pay their salaries. They need sick dying people to justify their existence. It's an endless loop of impotent incest.

At least the local hockey club is honest about their ends....they just do all their fundraising cuz theyre a group of guys that in the end just wanna play hockey.
 

stonesoffire

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The lack of the preaching and teaching of the true gospel of the grace of God which is only found in Christ alone. They are preaching works-based humanistic beliefs which in effect are denying the finished work of Christ alone which is by grace through faith in His finished work on the cross and resurrection.

One of the reasons that people are not coming into the churches and the prodigals are not streaming back into the mainstream church is that both groups of people have been met at the door by the older judgmental self-righteous brother instead of meeting the Father at the door.
That's it! Its what I am seeing. You are far ahead of me. :D
 

stonesoffire

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I see a church that has painted themselves into a corner. It looks more like a club that has more interest in gaining members to to fill thier coffers to pay the salaries to people who will encourage people to come to their light shows and fluff to fill their coffers to pay their salaries. They need sick dying people to justify their existence. It's an endless loop of impotent incest.

At least the local hockey club is honest about their ends....they just do all their fundraising cuz theyre a group of guys that in the end just wanna play hockey.
It's certainly the outcome of being without true power following the gospel message. Good post Sirk.
 

stonesoffire

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I have nothing more to add..lol

But, am sure this isn't all?
 
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I have nothing more to add..lol

But, am sure this isn't all?
The painted into a corner part is the monster they now have to feed. The big building and the big salaries..the giant budgets they have to meet and then justify. Humans do funny things with "truth" when their butts are on the line.
 

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It's certainly the outcome of being without true power following the gospel message. Good post Sirk.
it is because they talk about God and Jesus Christ without KNOWING them

it will be resolved if and when true God sent revival comes.
 
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A lot of people say they believe in God, but not too many seem to believe God.
 
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The mainstream churches top concerns is money & bodies to fill their seats. There is no ginuwine concern for saving souls & preaching truth. You will find the holy spirit more so in local churches. There is a different spirit in the mainstream ones. Not to mention the mainstream churches are all about not offending others instead of preaching truth. The lord said in Luke 9:26 - Whoever is ashamed of me and my words, the Son of Man will be ashamed of them when he comes in his glory and in the glory of the Father and of the holy angels.
 
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it is because they talk about God and Jesus Christ without KNOWING them
Amen......some have replaced the Bible and their own particular view of it for knowing Jesus for who He truly is.

Paul didn't say that in the last days people would be anti-God - he said they would be anti-Christ in their beliefs. The self-righteous Pharisees who depended on what they did or didn't do were all for God but were against the very work of Christ and His grace and love towards people.

So it is to this day. The religion of Christianity is an enemy of the Lord Jesus Christ.
 
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wolfwint

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My answer has always been because of denying Holy Spirit to move...but am beginning to see more to this..

What do you all see?
What you understand under mainstream church? You mean US
Churches?
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Paul said he was all things to all people. When paul went around different people. He changed his way to share god in a way they can understand, And, as far as scripture goes (apart from sin) became as one of them. (Ie paul did not do the same when around jews as he was around gentiles) He did not force a jew to become like the gentiles. nor the gentiles to become like a jew. He adapted.

The mainstream church wants to force everyone to adapt to them, instead of adapting to the people it is trying to reach. That is why it started to lose my generation, and has pretty much lost the younger generation fo today..
 

stonesoffire

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http://www.emptyhospitals.org/

could we be as bold as this?

 

stonesoffire

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am on my weird computer that doesn't work as well as my ipad.

If that link doesn't work...search for Frank Hanks Ministries.
 
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Paul said he was all things to all people. When paul went around different people. He changed his way to share god in a way they can understand, And, as far as scripture goes (apart from sin) became as one of them. (Ie paul did not do the same when around jews as he was around gentiles) He did not force a jew to become like the gentiles. nor the gentiles to become like a jew. He adapted.

The mainstream church wants to force everyone to adapt to them, instead of adapting to the people it is trying to reach. That is why it started to lose my generation, and has pretty much lost the younger generation fo today..
and now that theyve figured out that they screwed up, their attempt to adapt is seen as disingenuous. People may be stupid but they ain't dumb. They'd rather go haveca beer with their friends than have a beer with their pastor as he tries to show how relevant and hip he is. Lol