Different view of God the Father

childoftheonetrueking12 · Mar 30, 2017

Does anyone else view the different parts of the Godhead trinity differently? It's very easy to relate to Jesus and believe that he loves me and cares for me because he was both fully God and fully human, and hung on a cross so I could be saved. The Holy Spirit, as the bible describes, is our "Helper", lives inside our hearts, and who's presences brings peace, joy and loving conviction with a "still small voice". But when it comes to God the Father, I can't seem to get past thinking he is an angry smiter who wishes to condemn and punish me for everything I do wrong. I know that it is all just one God with three parts and I know that the word says that "God is love", but I just can't seem to get past feeling like God the father is cold and calculating. I heard that we gain our view of who God is based on who our earthly father is, so maybe that has something to do with it. Am I alone in this?

BenFTW · Mar 30, 2017

Let this truth sink in for you. Who sent Jesus to die for you? God, the Father. Jesus was being obedient to the will of the Father. God, the Father wanted reconciliation with you, because He loves you, so He sent His Son to die for you (and Jesus gave Himself up willingly). This means that the whole plan of redemption, the plan of reconciliation, was a plan set out by the heart of God towards you.

God, the Father, is loving, and meek. Your perception of His strictness comes about from the OT, and Him punishing the Israelites under the law (of Moses). Keep this in mind, why was He so "strict?" He is faithful to keep His word, and under the covenant He would do blessings for obedience and curses for disobedience. He wanted the people to choose life and blessings because He desires to bless them. Yet, we aren't perfect and thats what the law shows us. We need Jesus as our Lord and Savior.

So Jesus came to do the will of the Father, and that will is to reconcile with you because He, the Father, loves you dearly.

OneFaith · Mar 30, 2017

childoftheonetrueking12 said:

Rest assure that God the Father is love, and loves you. But part of love is being just- He is also a Judge and a King. We are supposed to fear to disobey God, but the Bible says perfect love drives out fear. In other words, if you love God perfectly you have nothing to fear. He is not hoping that people will fail so that He can smite them, He is hoping for all to come to repentance so that He doesn't have to smite them with His righteous judgement.

He didn't have His Son die for nothing. He is angry with those who don't take advantage of it- wouldnt you be? Let's say the whole world caught a disease, and the only antidote requires the torture and death of your only son. And many people were on tv saying they won't take the cure, and laughed at your son. Wouldn't you be angry them? Absolutely! But would you be angry at those who didn't let your son die in vain? Who with tears of gratitude gladly accepted your sacrifice? Of course not- that was the whole purpose. Would you wish to smite them for showing signs of the disease as they heal? No- you sacrificed your son to cure them, why dishonor your son's efforts to by not having what he did work? That is counter-productive.

On our part we need to fear to disobey God- because that keeps us from the disease of sin. On His part He is hoping you make it to be with Him forever- to love you forever. But He needs you to have that fear of God as a tool to help you make it There.

BenFTW · Mar 30, 2017

OneFaith said:

God isn't a tyrant. It is God's goodness that leads men to repentance. The statement of yours I put in bold and increased the font size of, is horrendously inaccurate. Its not about our love of God casting out fear, but His love that transforms us. Our love simply reciprocates from His love, He first loved us and thats why we love Him. Our loves grows as we have a revelation of His great love for us. Any fear is cast away because we realize that we are secure in His love, and that He holds us in His hand. We do not fear because there is no condemnation in Christ, Jesus.

Your statement is very legalistic and works orientated, to think that our perfect love of God is what casts away fear. Its about His love, what He did for us, and His plan of reconciliation that gives us an eternal salvation. Its about Jesus, His death and resurrection, and that God loves us. It is through faith by grace.

Miri · Mar 30, 2017

childoftheonetrueking12 said:

I use to have the same problem as a younger person. God seemed to be this person who
smiled benevolently down when I was good, but was ready to strike me dead if I got
it wrong.

I dont know when that idea changed, but it just did as I read the bible more and got to
know God the father better. It's hard to ignore verses like this. Meditate on them
for a while and ask Goc to show you how much he loves you.

Jeremiah 31:3 NKJV
[3] The LORD has appeared of old to me, saying: "Yes, I have loved you with
an everlasting love; Therefore with lovingkindness I have drawn you.

Ephesians 2:4-7 NKJV
[4] But God, who is rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved
us, [5] even when we were dead in trespasses, made us alive together with
Christ (by grace you have been saved), [6] and raised us up together, and
made us sit together in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, [7] that in the ages
to come He might show the exceeding riches of His grace in His kindness toward
us in Christ Jesus.

Isaiah 49:14-16 NKJV
[14] But Zion said, "The LORD has forsaken me, And my Lord has forgotten
me." [15] "Can a woman forget her nursing child, And not have compassion on
the son of her womb? Surely they may forget, Yet I will not forget you.
[16] See, I have inscribed you on the palms of My hands; Your walls are continually before Me.

Psalm 103:8-14 NKJV
[8] The LORD is merciful and gracious, Slow to anger, and abounding in mercy.
[9] He will not always strive with us, Nor will He keep His anger forever. [10] He
has not dealt with us according to our sins, Nor punished us according to our
iniquities. [11] For as the heavens are high above the earth, So great is His
mercy toward those who fear Him; [12] As far as the east is from the west,
So far has He removed our transgressions from us. [13] As a father pities his
children, So the LORD pities those who fear Him. [14] For He knows our frame;
He remembers that we are dust.

MultilingualMessenger · Mar 30, 2017

childoftheonetrueking12 said:

I thought similarly, back when I was young...-er...in the Lord

But as I came to know God the Father more, I know that He's not that way. I learned that there is no condemnation for those that are in Christ (see Romans 8:1).

God disciplines those He loves (Hebrews 12: 4-12). Not in a wrathful way, but out of love.

I wouldn't say that you're alone in this. I'm sure there are more people besides me and you who have ever thought this way. But rest assured, the Bible and your own growing relationship with God the Father will show you otherwise.

Johnny_B · Mar 30, 2017

childoftheonetrueking12 said:

Your basic view of God is wrong, He's not three parts. He's there persons, you can't have a relationship wit a part. Do you remember the angel of Death in Exodus? That was Jesus in His pre-incarnate state, Jesus the Son has dealt with man the majority of the time. To know the Father's love better, do a study on His electing love for the Church or called out ones. What did Jesus show us? He showed us the Father, because He and the Father are one. The reason I'm not giving you Scripture is you really need to be the one that discovers these thing for yourself, believe me it will help you a lot. I know it did for me.

God Bless Bro

jaybird88 · Mar 30, 2017

childoftheonetrueking12 said:

Does anyone else view the different parts of the Godhead trinity differently? It's very easy to relate to Jesus and believe that he loves me and cares for me because he was both fully God and fully human, and hung on a cross so I could be saved. The Holy Spirit, as the bible describes, is our "Helper", lives inside our hearts, and who's presences brings peace, joy and loving conviction with a "still small voice". But when it comes to God the Father, I can't seem to get past thinking he is an angry smiter who wishes to condemn and punish me for everything I do wrong. I know that it is all just one God with three parts and I know that the word says that "God is love", but I just can't seem to get past feeling like God the father is cold and calculating. I heard that we gain our view of who God is based on who our earthly father is, so maybe that has something to do with it. Am I alone in this?

you know that Jesus loves you, and Jesus does the will of His Father. it only makes sense the Father loves you just as much.

p_rehbein · Mar 30, 2017

childoftheonetrueking12 said:

Does anyone else view the different parts of the Godhead trinity differently? It's very easy to relate to Jesus and believe that he loves me and cares for me because he was both fully God and fully human, and hung on a cross so I could be saved. The Holy Spirit, as the bible describes, is our "Helper", lives inside our hearts, and who's presences brings peace, joy and loving conviction with a "still small voice". But when it comes to God the Father, I can't seem to get past thinking he is an angry smiter who wishes to condemn and punish me for everything I do wrong. I know that it is all just one God with three parts and I know that the word says that "God is love", but I just can't seem to get past feeling like God the father is cold and calculating. I heard that we gain our view of who God is based on who our earthly father is, so maybe that has something to do with it. Am I alone in this?

Boy, I sure hope so..............

Grandpa · Mar 30, 2017

childoftheonetrueking12 said:

No you're not alone in this.

We don't deserve love. We don't deserve help. We don't deserve to be blessed. We've done nothing to earn these things.

But He Loves us and Helps us and Blesses us anyways. Why? Because that is His Nature is the closest I can come to explaining it.

It must be natural for us to worry about coming before such a Powerful God and relying on His Mercy and Goodness rather than our own merit.

FreeNChrist · Mar 30, 2017

If you want to know what the Father is really like, look to Jesus, as He perfectly reveals the Father to us. (John 14:9)

Willie-T · Mar 30, 2017

BenFTW said:

God isn't a tyrant. It is God's goodness that leads men to repentance. The statement of yours I put in bold and increased the font size of, is horrendously inaccurate. Its not about our love of God casting out fear, but His love that transforms us. Our love simply reciprocates from His love, He first loved us and thats why we love Him. Our loves grows as we have a revelation of His great love for us. Any fear is cast away because we realize that we are secure in His love, and that He holds us in His hand. We do not fear because there is no condemnation in Christ, Jesus.

Your statement is very legalistic and works orientated, to think that our perfect love of God is what casts away fear. Its about His love, what He did for us, and His plan of reconciliation that gives us an eternal salvation. Its about Jesus, His death and resurrection, and that God loves us. It is through faith by grace.

Absolutely! This sick portrayal of God as a tyrannical monster that Jesus saves from is the very reason so many of us fear God.

Magenta · Mar 30, 2017

Let us put it together, for God gives grace to the humble but resists the proud.

Having a proper attitude toward God would seem to be very important.

Jesus said we were to fear Him Who could destroy both body and soul in hell.

We are also told that fear of God is the beginning of wisdom. This seems
to speak to our absolute powerlessness in the face of His absolute power.

However, we are not to remain there, for perfect love casts out fear.

Fear has to do with punishment. There is no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.

Utah · Mar 30, 2017

childoftheonetrueking12 said:

I used to feel that way but John 14 gave me clarity and changed my life. Be at peace and embrace the wonderful, glorious truth that God loves you, and you are precious in His sight. If it were not so, Jesus would not have endured the Cross, but He did so, because of the Father's love for you.

TraySir · Mar 30, 2017

childoftheonetrueking12 said:

If as you suggest that God wished to condemn and punish for you everything you do wrong, you would be in a hopeless state and condition. Again, that's only true if we leave out what the bible teaches about God's will.

As for gaining a view of God through who our earthly father is, that has some truth to it.
I can't get a view of God through my father. I had no father. Died before I was 4 years young.

Here's what Paul says in Ephesians: Husbands love your wives even as Christ loved the church and gave Himself for it.

A believing husband will reflect the love of Christ to his wife. She can be reminded and even learn through her husband's love, that his love exists for her not because he merely chose to love her, but because love is of God. And that truth existed before her husband ever loved her.

So its the relationship that reveals the truth about God.
God is a relational being.
God instituted the marriage relationship.

First there is the truth: God is love. Then there is earthly example of that truth in our lives: the relationship and the institution of marriage, and that includes family.

The institution of marriage (along with sons and daughters) did not just pop into the mind of God. It was there in eternity.

Can you see God through your father? Yes. God gave you a father.
An abusive father does not reflect love, the child knows or will know - that's not how things were meant to be. That's right. The father completely failing to be a father is a corruption of God's plan.

God is not wanting to condemn you. He loves you. Think of the opportunity you have, this very minute to accept that truth. What is your purpose in life? Serve God. You will find yourself in the most fulfilling, most rewarding business. It is that of serving others. Not self, but others.

I'm not talking about dishing meals in a shelter (nothing wrong with that). I'm talking about thinking less of self and more of God, more of others. Your employer will see a difference in your work. Your brothers and sisters will be amazed, wonderfully so. Everyone around you and in your life will be better, better in spirit, because of your service to God.

You will be reflecting who God is and what He has planned for you.

Desertsrose · Mar 30, 2017

childoftheonetrueking12 said:

Hi Child,

The word God seems so abstract at times. That's how I use to think when I read the word God. And sometimes it still does.

One day while I was studying in 1 John, the name Father is used quite a few times. God is also, but when I saw the word father it melted my heart and I envisioned all that a good loving father is while reading father in 1 John.

I even wept as I focused in on my Heavenly Father as I read. All that's good, perfect and lovely stems from our Father.

I would like to encourage you to go and read where it uses the word Father in the scriptures. In 1 John alone it's used about 13 or 15 times.

1 John 3:1-3

See how great a love the Father has bestowed on us, that we would be called children of God; and such we are. For this reason the world does not know us, because it did not know Him.

Beloved, now we are children of God, and it has not appeared as yet what we will be. We know that when He appears, we will be like Him, because we will see Him just as He is.

And everyone who has this hope fixed on Him purifies himself, just as He is pure.

Desertsrose · Mar 30, 2017

Magenta said:

Actually it's because of our Fear of God that His perfect love casts our all fear. We are told to continue to fear God in the NT scriptures.

There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear, because fear involves punishment, and the one who fears is not perfected in love.

This is talking about once we have the fear of the Lord and are born-again we have no fear of death or hell or expectations of being thrown into the lake of fire. It's the very fear of God that keeps us in His love which removes the fear of punishment.

Magenta · Mar 30, 2017

Desertsrose said:

You seem to contradict yourself. If there is no fear in love then we cannot continue to fear God when we love Him. His perfect love casts out fear, which has to do with punishment. We love because He first loved us. We do not worship in fear, or adore in fear, or love in fear, we simply worship, love, and adore Him for all He is and all He has done, with pure unadulterated joy, gratitude, and devotion

Depleted · Mar 30, 2017

childoftheonetrueking12 said:

I have a degree in Communications so have a serious desire to understand words and what they mean. A bit of a semantic geek, (in the real use of that word, not the modern use.) So, yeah, I get God is triune, and somehow Father is not Son or Holy Spirit, and is yet still God. That Jesus is not Father or Spirit, and yet still God. Spirit is neither Father nor Son, and is yet still God. And that somehow God is still one in three.

But my brain hurts when I try and figure that one out. And I recently learned Jehovah is Jesus, not Father or Spirit. So my head hurts even more trying to get that.

I make it easier on myself by just calling God "God." Geeky me just can't figure out how it all works out, but I trust God to get it for me. Some things I just can't get. That's one of them.

BeyondET · Mar 30, 2017

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