Does original sin exist?
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Original sin does not exist for Adam and Eve were the only people that committed that sin,and we are not blamed for what Adam and Eve did in regard to their sin,for that is on them,for God said the father will not bear the sin of the son,and the son shall not bear the sin of the father,but all people will bear their own sin.
But when Adam and Eve ate off the tree of the knowledge of good and evil,they had a choice between the two,their nature changed to having a choice,and all came from Adam and Eve,so all are born with that choice between good and evil,so people are born not knowing God,so they will do wrong before they come to God to do right,so all are born sinners,for they do not know God when they are born,because of that choice between good and evil that Adam and Eve caused by eating the fruit of that tree.
But when Adam and Eve ate off the tree of the knowledge of good and evil,they had a choice between the two,their nature changed to having a choice,and all came from Adam and Eve,so all are born with that choice between good and evil,so people are born not knowing God,so they will do wrong before they come to God to do right,so all are born sinners,for they do not know God when they are born,because of that choice between good and evil that Adam and Eve caused by eating the fruit of that tree.
Original sin is a made up doctrine by pagans, go ask any Jew with even basic knowledge and they will tell you nope, we dont believe in the original sin.
It was a later development (much like many other false doctrines, immortal soul for example) made by pagan people influenced by greek philosophy.
Unfortunately the church lost the Israelites, and never recovered since.
It was a later development (much like many other false doctrines, immortal soul for example) made by pagan people influenced by greek philosophy.
Unfortunately the church lost the Israelites, and never recovered since.
Good try, but the "original sin" concept that somehow everyone born is instantly a sinful creature cant be derived from that.
In verse 12 it says: FOR ALL HAVE SIN.
thats the problem, people sin, its not a magical force that forces everyone to sin, we each choose to do wrong.
lets take some accountability for our actions now.
In verse 12 it says: FOR ALL HAVE SIN.
thats the problem, people sin, its not a magical force that forces everyone to sin, we each choose to do wrong.
lets take some accountability for our actions now.
I don't see a lot of significance to the concept of original sin. Adam and Eve committed the first sin, but anyone of us would have done the same. It seems to me people like to blame Adam and Eve for their own sin, but I think we are each responsible for our own misconduct.
As far as what the sin was, I've come to look at the tree of knowledge of good and evil as the act of passing judgment on one another.
As far as what the sin was, I've come to look at the tree of knowledge of good and evil as the act of passing judgment on one another.
The phrase original sin came out of Catholicism. Sin has its origin when man disobeyed one law of God. No such thing as non-original or fake sin. They coined their view in a hope of making the flesh of Mary profit for something. Even though of that kind of flesh(corrupted) Christ himself says it profits for nothing. It how and why the Catholics must walk by sight, after the temporal and not by faith (the unseen eternal) .
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i know one that didnt sin.
all have sinned is not the same as being born with sin.
Jesus said the kingdom belonged to those children, this makes little sense if those kids are full of sin.
EZ 18 19-20
[SUP]19 [/SUP]“Yet you say, ‘Why should not the son suffer for the iniquity of the father?’ When the son has done what is just and right, and has been careful to observe all my statutes, he shall surely live. [SUP]20 [/SUP]The soul who sins shall die. The son shall not suffer for the iniquity of the father, nor the father suffer for the iniquity of the son. The righteousness of the righteous shall be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon himself.
Ez says im not accountable for the sins of my father. it says i am responsible for my own sins.
all have sinned is not the same as being born with sin.
Jesus said the kingdom belonged to those children, this makes little sense if those kids are full of sin.
EZ 18 19-20
[SUP]19 [/SUP]“Yet you say, ‘Why should not the son suffer for the iniquity of the father?’ When the son has done what is just and right, and has been careful to observe all my statutes, he shall surely live. [SUP]20 [/SUP]The soul who sins shall die. The son shall not suffer for the iniquity of the father, nor the father suffer for the iniquity of the son. The righteousness of the righteous shall be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon himself.
Ez says im not accountable for the sins of my father. it says i am responsible for my own sins.
It was called the original sin because of disobedience to the WORD of GOD, sin came Into the world.Disobedience to GOD' voice still exist but since JESUS fulfilled the law and took our sins upon himself In our place on the cross as a man, satisfying the demand of the law,taking power back from satin,original sin applies to those under the law but It no longer appliess to those In CHRIST Its no longer about sin consciousness but now It's about faith In the WORD of GOD.