AN EASTER PRESENT FOR THE ANTI-HOLIDAY CROWD :)

[sparkman]

Here's a good video showing some of the issues with the assertions of the anti-holiday crowd concerning Easter.

I used to be an Armstrongite who accused Christians of being neo-pagans due to Christmas, Easter, and worshipping on Sunday, then I got an education.

And I'm not talking about reading Alexander Hislop's book "Two Babylons" or any other National Enquirer - level diatribe trying to accuse Christianity of being pagan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IffNsK_fdoY


Have a happy Easter, and a great Resurrection Sunday folks

 

[Blain]

sits back with popcorn in hand and waits for the show

 

[Depleted]

sits back with popcorn in hand and waits for the show

Personally thinking the anti-holiday crowd won't get Armstrongite nor neo-pagen, BUT shouldn't that be a bowl of Hershey Kisses, instead of popcorn, given Easter is coming?

AND, if you agree, are you sharing? (That's me drooling, not me sticking my tongue out at you. lol)

 

[Magenta]

Acts 12:4
And when he had apprehended him, he put him in prison, and delivered him to four quaternions of soldiers to keep him; intending after Easter to bring him forth to the people.

 

[Locutus]

Acts 12:4
And when he had apprehended him, he put him in prison, and delivered him to four quaternions of soldiers to keep him; intending after Easter to bring him forth to the people.

Strange how the KJV renders pascha here;

Adam Clarke:

Verse 4
Four quaternions of soldiers - That is, sixteen, or four companies of four men each, who had the care of the prison, each company taking in turn one of the four watches of the night.


Intending after Easter to bring him forth - Μετα το πασχα, After the passover. Perhaps there never was a more unhappy, not to say absurd, translation than that in our text. But, before I come to explain the word, it is necessary to observe that our term called Easter is not exactly the same with the Jewish passover.

This festival is always held on the fourteenth day of the first vernal full moon; but the Easter of the Christians, never till the next Sabbath after said full moon; and, to avoid all conformity with the Jews in this matter, if the fourteenth day of the first vernal full moon happen on a Sabbath, then the festival of Easter is deferred till the Sabbath following. The first vernal moon is that whose fourteenth day is either on the day of the vernal equinox, or the next fourteenth day after it.

The vernal equinox, according to a decree of the council of Nice, is fixed to the 21st day of March; and therefore the first vernal moon is that whose fourteenth day falls upon the 21st of March, or the first fourteenth day after. Hence it appears that the next Sabbath after the fourteenth day of the vernal moon, which is called the Paschal term, is always Easter day.

And, therefore, the earliest Paschal term being the 21st of March, the 22d of March is the earliest Easter possible; and the 18th of April being the latest Paschal term, the seventh day after, that is the 25th of April, is the latest Easter possible.

 

[Blain]

Personally thinking the anti-holiday crowd won't get Armstrongite nor neo-pagen, BUT shouldn't that be a bowl of Hershey Kisses, instead of popcorn, given Easter is coming?

AND, if you agree, are you sharing? (That's me drooling, not me sticking my tongue out at you. lol)

well i would but i'm diabetic so popcorn with extra butter is my best bet

 

[dcontroversal]

Acts 12:4
And when he had apprehended him, he put him in prison, and delivered him to four quaternions of soldiers to keep him; intending after Easter to bring him forth to the people.

The word Easter is----> PASSOVER You should know better Miss Purple HAH

 

[Blain]

Basically there are two groups- Christians that celebrate holidays with God as the main focus and Christians who see paganism in them and refuse to celebrate them. However if by that logic they shouldn't celebrate their birthdays either because paganism can be traced from that as well.

 

[Magenta]

The word Easter is----> PASSOVER You should know better Miss Purple HAH

Yes, I gave the KJV to show that Easter in Christianity has a Biblical basis, regardless of any other view, including the rejection of KJ onlyism etc. Also, to say that Easter is celebrated on a Sabbath (as Locutus posted) seems odd, for it is always marked on a Sunday, that being the first Sunday following the first full moon following the vernal equinox, and that is to follow the Jewish lunar calendar means of marking Passover by the moon phase of their new year, which begins in spring...

 

[Base12]

The KJV, as usual, is the ONLY translation that gets it correct.

Fast forward to 36:00...

[video=youtube;egNpVMHi820]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egNpVMHi820[/video]

 

[Magenta]

There are different ways of choosing which day to mark as Easter or Passover
or Resurrection Sunday, depending on which system you are familiar with or
adhere to, as Jews of course mark Passover as they were commanded to do,
even though a new covenant has been instituted through our Lord, for He is
our Passover Lamb, sacrificed to pay the sin debt of the world.

Westernized Christians mostly follow the formula as already stated:
the first Sunday following the first full moon following the vernal equinox.

This is because the Jewish observance of Passover, in the first month of the
Jewish year, was observed on the first full moon after the vernal equinox.

 

[Magenta]

Some people claim that the darkness that fell on the earth for three hours
between noon and three o'clock in the afternoon as Jesus lay dying on the cross
was due to a solar eclipse, but that is a cosmological impossibility during a full moon.

 

[Magenta]

How is Jesus our Passover Lamb?"

The Passover lamb was the animal God directed the Israelites to use as a sacrifice in Egypt on the night God struck down the firstborn sons of every household (Exodus 12:29). This was the final plague God issued against Pharaoh, and it led to Pharaoh releasing the Israelites from slavery (Exodus 11:1). After that fateful night, God instructed the Israelites to observe the Passover Feast as a lasting memorial (Exodus 12:14).

God instructed every household of the Israelite people to select a year-old male lamb without defect (Exodus 12:5; cf. Leviticus 22:20-21). The head of the household was to slaughter the lamb at twilight, taking care that none of its bones were broken, and apply some of its blood to the tops and sides of the doorframe of the house. The lamb was to be roasted and eaten (Exodus 12:7-8). God also gave specific instructions as to how the Israelites were to eat the lamb, “with your cloak tucked into your belt, your sandals on your feet and your staff in your hand (Exodus 12:11; cf. Ephesians 6:14). In other words, they had to be ready to travel.

God said that when He saw the lamb’s blood on the doorframe of a house, He would “pass over” that home and not permit “the destroyer” (Exodus 12:23) to enter. Any home without the blood of the lamb would have their firstborn son struck down that night (Exodus 12: 12-13).

The New Testament establishes a relationship between this prototypical Passover lamb and the consummate Passover Lamb, Jesus Christ (1 Corinthians 5:7). The prophet John the Baptist recognized Jesus as “the Lamb of God” (John 1:29), and the apostle Peter links the lamb without defect (Exodus 12:5) with Christ, whom he calls a “lamb without blemish or defect” (1 Peter 1:19). Jesus is qualified to be called One “without blemish” because His life was completely free from sin (Hebrews 4:15). In Revelation, John the apostle sees Jesus as “a Lamb, looking as if it had been slain” (Revelation 5:6). Jesus was crucified during the time that the Passover was observed (Mark 14:12).

The Bible says believers have symbolically applied the sacrificial blood of Christ to their hearts and thus have escaped eternal death (Hebrews 9:12, 14). Just as the Passover lamb’s applied blood caused the “destroyer” to pass over each household, Christ’s applied blood causes God’s judgment to pass over sinners and gives life to believers (Romans 6:23).

As the first Passover marked the Hebrews’ release from Egyptian slavery, so the death of Christ marks our release from the slavery of sin (Romans 8:2). As the first Passover was to be held in remembrance as an annual feast, so Christians are to memorialize the Lord’s death in communion until He returns (1 Corinthians 11:26).

The Old Testament Passover lamb, although a reality in that time, was a mere foreshadowing of the better and final Passover Lamb, Jesus Christ. Through His sinless life and sacrificial death, Jesus became the only One capable of giving people a way to escape death and a sure hope of eternal life (1 Peter 1:20-21). https://www.gotquestions.org/Passover-Lamb.html

 

[sevenseas]

sits back with popcorn in hand and waits for the show

I'll settle for popcorn. Too much chocolate and I don't feel good the next day anyway.

I've got some cheese flavor to sprinkle on top if you like

have you tried that white cheddar popcorn you can buy in stores?

 

[Magenta]

Sunset Monday to sunset Tuesday (Nisan 13)

Preparation of the room where the Messiah would observe "this Passover" with the apostles, Tuesday afternoon. Matthew 26:18-19, Mark 14:13-16, Luke 22:9-13

Sunset Tuesday to sunset Wednesday (Nisan 14)

The Messiah observed His Passover preparation (also known as "The Last Supper") with the apostles, Tuesday evening just after sunset. Matthew 26:20-29, Mark 14:17-25, Luke 22:14-38, John chapters 13-17

At about 10 p.m. Tuesday evening, they went out and entered the Garden of Gethsemane where the Messiah prayed and was then arrested by the mob, led by the traitor Judas Iscariot. Matthew 26:36-56, Mark 14:32-52, Luke 22:39-53, John 18:1-11

The Messiah was taken to the house of the Caiaphas, the high priest, and was held there from about 11 p.m. Tuesday to dawn Wednesday. Throughout the night, Jesus was brutalized and mocked by the religious council and their thugs. Matthew 26:57-75, Mark 14:53-72, Luke 22:54-65, John 18:12-27

At daybreak Wednesday, Jesus was taken to Pontius Pilate who declared Him innocent of any wrongdoing. Pilate then sent Jesus to Herod Antipas, who happened to be in Jerusalem at the time. During that same time, Judas tried to return his thirty silver coins to the Sanhedrin and then hung himself. Luke 22:66-71, Luke 23:1-7, Matthew 27:1-10

Herod Antipas, after listening to the accusations, also declared Jesus an innocent man, having done nothing deserving death. He then sent Him back to Pilate. Luke 23:6-15

Pilate again tried to have Jesus released, but eventually gave in to the frenzied mob. He released the murderer Barabbas, and handed Jesus over to be crucified, knowing full well that Jesus of Nazareth was an innocent man, just as they all knew that He was innocent. Luke 23:13-25

The Roman military then took charge of Jesus; they sadistically tortured and beat Him nearly to death through the morning on Wednesday and then took Him out of the city for the Crucifixion. Matthew 27:27-56, Mark 15:16-41, Luke 23:26-43, John 19:16-27

The death of the Lamb of God, about 3 p.m. Wednesday. His burial in the tomb was just before sunset on Wednesday afternoon. Matthew 27:45-61, Mark 15:33-47, Luke 23:44-56, John 19:28-42

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Sunset Wednesday to sunset Thursday (Nisan 15, First Day Of Unleavened Bread)

Christ in the tomb night and day 1.

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On the First Day of Passover/Unleavened Bread, the annual Sabbath that many mistakenly believe refers to the weekly Sabbath because it is also a "day after Preparation Day," Pilate had guards posted at the tomb. Matthew 27:62-66

Sunset Thursday to sunset Friday (Nisan 16, Second Day of Unleavened Bread)

Christ in the tomb night and day 2 . Matthew 12:40

Sunset Friday to sunset Saturday (Nisan 17, Third Day of Unleavened Bread)

Christ in the tomb night and day 3; The Resurrection was just before sunset on Saturday afternoon, exactly three days and three nights after He died. Matthew 12:40

Sunset Saturday to sunset Sunday (Nisan 18, Fourth Day of Unleavened Bread)

The empty (for nearly twelve hours, since just before sunset on Saturday) tomb was discovered by the women and the apostles long before sunrise on "Sunday" morning; the risen Christ spoke to Mary of Magdala. Matthew 28:1-10, Mark 16:1-8, Luke 24:1-12, John 20:1-18 http://www.keyway.ca/htm2012/20120404.htm

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"For I received from the Lord that which I also delivered to you: that the Lord Jesus on the same night (Passover) in which He was betrayed took bread; and when He had given thanks, He broke it and said, 'Take, eat; this is My body which is broken for you; do this in remembrance of Me.' In the same manner He also took the cup after supper, saying, 'This cup is the new covenant in My blood. This do, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of me.' For as often as you eat this bread and drink this cup, you proclaim the Lord's death till He comes" (I Corinthians 11:23- 26).

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[Blain]

Easter is on sunday correct? but we have to take into consideration that the calander they used is different from ours. The day officially ends at sun down on the jewish calander where as ours is midnight

 

[Magenta]

Easter is on sunday correct? but we have to take into consideration that the calander they used is different from ours. The day officially ends at sun down on the jewish calander where as ours is midnight

Yes, it was formalized at the first council of Nicaea to always be on a Sunday within Christendom, whereas for Jews, their Passover is two weeks into the new year of their lunar calendar, which can fall on any day of the week (but is a full moon also), and is followed by the high holy day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread, which is why there were two Sabbaths the week that Jesus was crucified.

 

[Blain]

Yes, it was formalized at the first council of Nicaea to always be on a Sunday within Christendom, whereas for Jews, their Passover is two weeks into the new year of their lunar calendar, which can fall on any day of the week (but is a full moon also), and is followed by the high holy day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread, which is why there were two Sabbaths the week that Jesus was crucified.

Oh I see....so did Jesus rise on saturday or sunday?

 

[Magenta]

Oh I see....so did Jesus rise on saturday or sunday?

The women who went to prepare His body with the spices arrived before sunrise, while it was yet dark, so that would have been Saturday night still, right? According to their method of tracking time, measuring from evening to evening. In our reckoning of time, it would be early Sunday morning, but either way, they found the tomb empty, and nobody knows the time of His resurrection, for we are not told beyond Him saying it would be three days and nights, as with Jonah.

 

[Blain]

The women who went to prepare His body with the spices arrived before sunrise, while it was yet dark, so that would have been Saturday night still, right? According to their method of tracking time, measuring from evening to evening. In our reckoning of time, it would be early Sunday morning, but either way, they found the tomb empty, and nobody knows the time of His resurrection, for we are not told beyond Him saying it would be three days and nights, as with Jonah.

You certainly know your stuff my friend