Would anyone consider trump and teris may to be children Of God... (saved)..

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Do works matter come Judgement day.. yes or no..

  • Yes

    Votes: 3 75.0%
  • no

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • yes and so do all the other works like to obey...

    Votes: 1 25.0%
  • No but they dont go un-noted

    Votes: 0 0.0%

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[h=3]Romans 13:5-7[/h]for the authorities are ministers of God, attending to this very thing.


Now since they are ministers of God... will there works matter come Judgement day..
 
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And is it right that trump should kill those who make chidren of God stumble ...?
 
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Works matter in terms of the judgement seat of Christ.
 
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for the authorities are ministers of God, attending to this very thing.


Now since they are ministers of God... will there works matter come Judgement day..
God said all wars come from the lusts of people,and not from Him,in the New Testament.

The authorities are ministers of God,for they are doing His will by putting down the evil doers,but all wars come from people,but God allows it to put down the evildoers.

But they will be judged for the sins they commit in going against people,for while God uses them to put down the evil,for He allows it,not directing them with His Spirit,they are going to be judged for being cruel and harsh towards other people.

God used Babylon,allowed them to go against Israel for their straying from the truth,but God said He would punish that nation for going against Israel.

The same with Assyria,God used them to go against Israel,but then punished them,and the same as any nation that God uses to put down the terrible,He will judge them and they will be guilty of their sins.

For God is using them to put down the terrible,but He is not guiding them with His Spirit to do so,but allowing them to do it,so they are responsible for the sins they committed in being cruel to put down the cruel.

Jer 25:11 And this whole land shall be a desolation, and an astonishment; and these nations shall serve the king of Babylon seventy years.
Jer 25:12 And it shall come to pass, when seventy years are accomplished, that I will punish the king of Babylon, and that nation, saith the LORD, for their iniquity, and the land of the Chaldeans, and will make it perpetual desolations.
Jer 25:13 And I will bring upon that land all my words which I have pronounced against it, even all that is written in this book, which Jeremiah hath prophesied against all the nations.
Jer 25:14 For many nations and great kings shall serve themselves of them also: and I will recompense them according to their deeds, and according to the works of their own hands.

Although God used Babylon to go against Israel,allowed them to do it,for the rebelliousness of Israel straying from the truth,God still punished Babylon for their wickedness in going against Israel,for He allowed it,and they were not guided by His Spirit.

Had Babylon been guided by God to go against Israel,they would not be responsible for their sins going against Israel,but God allowed it,and this happened by not coming from God,but allowing the evil spirits to stir up Babylon to go against them.

Israel was the only ones justified to war coming from God,so they were not punished,for that is the nation He dealt with,but all other nations do not have that right,and will be punished for any wars they commit,and harm towards other people.

In the New Testament God said wars come from the lusts of people,and not from Him,although He allows nations to go against the wicked,but they are responsible for their sins,but it is still justified for Israel to fight physically without punishment,if it so be,for it is coming from God,and they are justified to war when God caused them to be a nation again in 1948.

Isa 31:4 For thus hath the LORD spoken unto me, Like as the lion and the young lion roaring on his prey, when a multitude of shepherds is called forth against him, he will not be afraid of their voice, nor abase himself for the noise of them: so shall the LORD of hosts come down to fight for mount Zion, and for the hill thereof.
Isa 31:5 As birds flying, so will the LORD of hosts defend Jerusalem; defending also he will deliver it; and passing over he will preserve it.

The six day war,when fighter pilots paved the way to win that war,and take control of Jerusalem.

Israel is the only ones justified to war,but they can war without it coming from God,and if they do then they are responsible for their sins,but all Gentile nations have no justification for war under any circumstance,even when attacked,and nothing can happen unless God allows it.
 
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Works matter in terms of the judgement seat of Christ.
Ah i suppose i should make it clear in my book it says judgement day is for all both your Good works and your bad works will be Judged..in the last days..
 
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God said all wars come from the lusts of people,and not from Him,in the New Testament.

The authorities are ministers of God,for they are doing His will by putting down the evil doers,but all wars come from people,but God allows it to put down the evildoers.

But they will be judged for the sins they commit in going against people,for while God uses them to put down the evil,for He allows it,not directing them with His Spirit,they are going to be judged for being cruel and harsh towards other people.

God used Babylon,allowed them to go against Israel for their straying from the truth,but God said He would punish that nation for going against Israel.

The same with Assyria,God used them to go against Israel,but then punished them,and the same as any nation that God uses to put down the terrible,He will judge them and they will be guilty of their sins.

For God is using them to put down the terrible,but He is not guiding them with His Spirit to do so,but allowing them to do it,so they are responsible for the sins they committed in being cruel to put down the cruel.

Jer 25:11 And this whole land shall be a desolation, and an astonishment; and these nations shall serve the king of Babylon seventy years.
Jer 25:12 And it shall come to pass, when seventy years are accomplished, that I will punish the king of Babylon, and that nation, saith the LORD, for their iniquity, and the land of the Chaldeans, and will make it perpetual desolations.
Jer 25:13 And I will bring upon that land all my words which I have pronounced against it, even all that is written in this book, which Jeremiah hath prophesied against all the nations.
Jer 25:14 For many nations and great kings shall serve themselves of them also: and I will recompense them according to their deeds, and according to the works of their own hands.

Although God used Babylon to go against Israel,allowed them to do it,for the rebelliousness of Israel straying from the truth,God still punished Babylon for their wickedness in going against Israel,for He allowed it,and they were not guided by His Spirit.

Had Babylon been guided by God to go against Israel,they would not be responsible for their sins going against Israel,but God allowed it,and this happened by not coming from God,but allowing the evil spirits to stir up Babylon to go against them.

Israel was the only ones justified to war coming from God,so they were not punished,for that is the nation He dealt with,but all other nations do not have that right,and will be punished for any wars they commit,and harm towards other people.

In the New Testament God said wars come from the lusts of people,and not from Him,although He allows nations to go against the wicked,but they are responsible for their sins,but it is still justified for Israel to fight physically without punishment,if it so be,for it is coming from God,and they are justified to war when God caused them to be a nation again in 1948.

Isa 31:4 For thus hath the LORD spoken unto me, Like as the lion and the young lion roaring on his prey, when a multitude of shepherds is called forth against him, he will not be afraid of their voice, nor abase himself for the noise of them: so shall the LORD of hosts come down to fight for mount Zion, and for the hill thereof.
Isa 31:5 As birds flying, so will the LORD of hosts defend Jerusalem; defending also he will deliver it; and passing over he will preserve it.

The six day war,when fighter pilots paved the way to win that war,and take control of Jerusalem.

Israel is the only ones justified to war,but they can war without it coming from God,and if they do then they are responsible for their sins,but all Gentile nations have no justification for war under any circumstance,even when attacked,and nothing can happen unless God allows it.
Ok so your saying that God is not allowing war. ?and for that reason they are not saved ? Dont forget that God could stop the war if he wanted too..
 
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Ah i suppose i should make it clear in my book it says judgement day is for all both your Good works and your bad works will be Judged..in the last days..
At the judgment seat of Christ, believers are rewarded based on how faithfully they served Christ. While good works & bad works are judged it doesn't determine salvation.
 
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At the judgment seat of Christ, believers are rewarded based on how faithfully they served Christ. While good works & bad works are judged it doesn't determine salvation.
Your forgetting that the bible says many will abandon there faith in the last days..... this is beleivers will abandond there lord... reject him...

No Judgent seat can happen in the blink of an eye if ye make one of Gods stumble..
 
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Your forgetting that the bible says many will abandon there faith in the last days..... this is beleivers will abandond there lord... reject him... No Judgent seat can happen in the blink of an eye if ye make one of Gods stumble..
First you asked "Do works matter come Judgement day.. yes or no.." I have stated it matters at the judgement seat of christ. Now your mentioning believers who abandon / reject God? If those who reject God don't repent & accept him they will be condemned & will face the white throne judgement. Those who abandon God good works wont matter.
 
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First you asked "Do works matter come Judgement day.. yes or no.." I have stated it matters at the judgement seat of christ. Now your mentioning believers who abandon / reject God? If those who reject God don't repent & accept him they will be condemned & will face the white throne judgement. Those who abandon God good works wont matter.
Those who abandon Gods good works wont matter ?...
 
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Those who abandon Gods good works wont matter ?...
what are you asking specifically because you're kinda all over the place. Your post talks about trump and teris as children of God, then you ask about works on judgement day, then you mention people abandoning God.
 

Johnny_B

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Jimbo, the falling away, is translated better a apostasy, so there will be a great apostasy of the faith, many false gospel and we can see that with the cults, word of faith, oneness, baptismal regeneration.

Ministers of God, of servants of God, I'm sure you've heard the term ministry of the state, they are ministers in that way or officers of the state.
 
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Jimbo, the falling away, is translated better a apostasy, so there will be a great apostasy of the faith, many false gospel and we can see that with the cults, word of faith, oneness, baptismal regeneration.

Ministers of God, of servants of God, I'm sure you've heard the term ministry of the state, they are ministers in that way or officers of the state.
Dont quote something that you dont know... as you dont know everyone who falls daily.

Now i dont want this to happen to me,, or anyone i know and love. Now i dont want it for anyone either but i am not the decision maker,,, and seeing as God wants all to be saved i guess he doesny want to have to say Goodbye to you unless your just someone who cant be helped no matter what...
 

hornetguy

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Who in the world is "teris"?

I can't vote in that poll... (even if I wanted to) because it just makes no sense..

Why don't you simply ask your question straight out, without adding a bunch of hypotheticals in the mix?
 
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Who in the world is "teris"?

I can't vote in that poll... (even if I wanted to) because it just makes no sense..

Why don't you simply ask your question straight out, without adding a bunch of hypotheticals in the mix?
Oh come on dude who do you think ?..

Dude this is just a conversation and your welcome to take part..

Im not here to shed blood against brothers and im not here to be the author of confusion.. i really do believe that Theresa Mary May britsh lady priminister and donal trump have been sent from God to wipe out the the people who make children of God stumble....
 
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Oh come on dude who do you think ?.. Dude this is just a conversation and your welcome to take part.. Im not here to shed blood against brothers and im not here to be the author of confusion.. i really do believe that Theresa Mary May britsh lady priminister and donal trump have been sent from God to wipe out the the people who make children of God stumble....
I respect your opinion however i personally believe Trump is part of the deception. Too many christians are looking upon Trump as some kinda savior and i can imagine that doesn't please the Lord. Trump isn't going to bring peace to the world. As the scriptures says when they say peace and safety sudden destruction will fall upon them.
 
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I respect your opinion however i personally believe Trump is part of the deception. Too many christians are looking upon Trump as some kinda savior and i can imagine that doesn't please the Lord. Trump isn't going to bring peace to the world. As the scriptures says when they say peace and safety sudden destruction will fall upon them.
I believe if he does that than God will see to it that he becomes a man of ruin....

Just like i feel That God stripped david cameron of his leadership... because he leagalised gay marriage..
 
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jaybird88

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Who in the world is "teris"?

I can't vote in that poll... (even if I wanted to) because it just makes no sense..

Why don't you simply ask your question straight out, without adding a bunch of hypotheticals in the mix?
i thought "teris may" might have been trumps wife or something. i dont watch much tv.
 
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Preacha24-7

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Government was established by God to maintain order. Without order, there's
nothing but chaos and anarchy. Don't be fooled Donald Trump is not a Christian.
He's disrespectful to women, a racist, dirty business practices, and he's full
of pride. People like that will never make it to heaven unless they repent. Anything
that is evil or unclean won't get into heaven.
Ephesians5:11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness,
but rather expose them. Satan hates to be exposed.
Preacha24-7 Evangelist to the Streets (Street Ministry)
 
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Government was established by God to maintain order. Without order, there's
nothing but chaos and anarchy. Don't be fooled Donald Trump is not a Christian.
He's disrespectful to women, a racist, dirty business practices, and he's full
of pride. People like that will never make it to heaven unless they repent. Anything
that is evil or unclean won't get into heaven.
Ephesians5:11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness,
but rather expose them. Satan hates to be exposed.
Preacha24-7 Evangelist to the Streets (Street Ministry)
So hes rich... big deal....... who isnt theese days...

You need to come to great britain to realize theres thousands of rich people... there everywhere and there also verry kind people...

theres also the rich that are mean fat old sods...