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wattie

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When Jesus, after dieing on the cross was pierced in his side by a Roman soldier 'blood and water' came out.

This seems strange.. but is actually a medical condition.

When someone is in the vertical position on the cross, they have to take a lot of effort to breathe. This process leads to a building up of blood and water around the lungs.

Death by asphyxiation is the probaLe cause

So .. the mention of blood and water coming out of the side of Jesus after he was dead on the cross is what you would expect from someone in His state.

This is one part of a line of evidence that drIves a stake in the swoon theory that Jesus survived the cross
 

MadebyHim

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But then after being in the grave for 3 days, after conquering death. He survived actually.
 

Johnny_B

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When Jesus, after dieing on the cross was pierced in his side by a Roman soldier 'blood and water' came out.

This seems strange.. but is actually a medical condition.

When someone is in the vertical position on the cross, they have to take a lot of effort to breathe. This process leads to a building up of blood and water around the lungs.

Death by asphyxiation is the probaLe cause

So .. the mention of blood and water coming out of the side of Jesus after he was dead on the cross is what you would expect from someone in His state.

This is one part of a line of evidence that drIves a stake in the swoon theory that Jesus survived the cross
Wow the swoon theory, I haven't heard that in 15 years. I actually attend a debate where William Land Craig debated someone on this, I can't for the life of me remember who it was.
 
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Even in death and after death he teaches....blood BEFORE water....

a) Saved by blood applied dia faith

b) Immersed as 1st act of obedience as a picture of a above after the blood has been applied.....

;)
 
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1 John 5:8
"And there are three that bear witness in earth, the spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one"


We have Water and Blood that came out, but where is the Spirit?

Jesus is the Spirit.

The Word.
 

wattie

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Yes He rose from the grave!

And there is also evidence for this .. that is very compelling :)

Multiple witnesses attesting to Jesus risen .. evidence of appearances after death attested by many many others
 

stonesoffire

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I see the Bride allegorically from the piercing of His side. Just like Adam and his rib for Eve.
 

wattie

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Wow the swoon theory, I haven't heard that in 15 years. I actually attend a debate where William Land Craig debated someone on this, I can't for the life of me remember who it was.
Yeah, Lee Strobel interviews Willam Lane Craig in The Case for Christ book about this. William Lane Craig has also debated others and written his own books on this :)