ISLAM and MUSLIMS

[joaniemarie]

Islam will not reform itself in our life time. I have been accused in this thread by people who think they are being polite to call me a Satanist who wishes to prevent the spread of the gospel and keep Muslims from hearing the truth. So it is easy for me to see how deceived people are about the Muslim issue when I get attacked so ruthlessly and repeatedly for simply sharing facts about what is going on in our world with the advance of Islam and the forced migration of Muslims into countries where Muslims have no intention of reform or integrating or respecting our way of life. Pat Condell may be an atheist, but he has been aware of the Muslim menace for quite some time, because he lives in Britain where sharia law gained a foothold, shocking the nation.

Tom Wallace has a daily Christian radio program that can also be listened to online kari55.com as well as archived materials, through his website, Fortress of Faith. I have mentioned him to you a couple of times before

How about Paul Joseph Watson?

[video=youtube;Eah1niD0dqs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eah1niD0dqs[/video]

Have seen and listened to this young man before and although he is not a Christian this doesn't mean he is stupid. He is smarter than a lot of Christians when it comes to common sense. He is quite smart as a matter of fact. Just because someone is not a Christian doesn't mean we don't take time to listen them inform us as to what is going on in the news in the world. Very often these kinds of people who like to "think" are more open to the Gospel than those who refuse to think for themselves.

Being led like sheep to the slaughter is what satan counts on. he doesn't want people to stop and "think" about what is going on around them. Just go along with the crowd since it must mean it's the best way. NO.

Hosea 6 mentions how my people die for lack of knowledge.

 

[OwzK]

Campbell’s soups, Ben and Jerry’s ice cream, Sun-Maid raisins, Nestle chocolate, and according to the bio of IFANCA’s President Muhammad Munir Chaudry, Hershey and Pepsi too. In fact, at a 2011 Islamist forum moderated by then-ISNA Secretary General Safaa Zarzour, one of the featured participants, Pepsi’s Chief Scientific Officer Mehmood Khan, claimed that Pepsi “collaborates” with IFANCA with “those 24 countries we [Pepsi] have halal certification.”

Can you give me links on Ben and Jerry's being halal?

As a favour really, cos I study business in college and the teachers go on about Ben and Jerry's being a "very ethical" company that build itself from being hippy and liberal like. I am REALLY against the idea of liberalism, but with evidence that they sell halal products and are unethical to animals, would really help me with evaluating the business for an assignment. The teachers might not like it, but it will help me get higher grades.

 

[Magenta]

Blooming heck, all those symbols mean that the product has been created using halal? I have seen that last logo on the end of the second row down on TONS of products here in the UK, never knew it meant a halal product though.

It is literally on TONS of foods. There has been an outrage really, a lot of arguing about halal easter eggs here in the UK latley on facebook. Some of our biggest supermarket retailers ONLY sell halal easter eggs or halal "chocolate eggs" as they are starting to call them. With the politically correct and the muslims being "offended" by the term "easter" so some chocolate producers and some supermarkets have took the word "easter" out to be PC to the muslims.

But there has been massive arguments with the halal easter eggs. Some of our biggest supermarkets only sell halal chocolate eggs, while other big supermarkets are under pressure because they sell both halal friendly easter eggs AND normal chocolate easter eggs. there is just no way to win, they are just trying to take over and don't accept our way of life.

Halal is to put animals in MASSIVE pain to make the product halal anyway. I don't even understand why these products are legal in the first place.

They are legal because Islam is being shoved down our throats whether we want it or not. They do not respect us but demand respect from us on threat of death! And stillpeople defend it. It blows my mind. LOL

 

[Magenta]

Can you give me links on Ben and Jerry's being halal?

As a favour really, cos I study business in college and the teachers go on about Ben and Jerry's being a "very ethical" company that build itself from being hippy and liberal like. I am REALLY against the idea of liberalism, but with evidence that they sell halal products and are unethical to animals, would really help me with evaluating the business for an assignment. The teachers might not like it, but it will help me get higher grades.

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[OwzK]

Im not against him, I actually have no idea who he is : p Ive heard about him, Im just mostly worried about it on a Christian level. I mean yeah Islam is absolutely evil and people need to know that. But my hope is not that Islam will reform itself, but that Muslims will come to Christ.

That is what we should all want, for muslims to come to Christ, change their ways and accept Jesus, who died on the cross for our sins. To accept Jesus as their saviour. But in the world we live in today, everyone is so horrible to each other. Love is dying, hate is brewing. You see how adultery and divorce rates are these days, compared to like, 60 years ago. Our society has changed, and marriage is becoming only a fashion thing now. Love is dying, see all the negative things they say all over the news and etc.

It's only a matter of time before we as Christians will be prosecuted and punished for our faith. It's already happening in some muslim countries, only a matter of time before it starts here. You see how nasty people talk about Christians these days, even here.

 

[OwzK]

They are legal because Islam is being shoved down our throats whether we want it or not. They do not respect us but demand respect from us on threat of death! And stillpeople defend it. It blows my mind. LOL

It also blows my mind. I honestly don't know how ANYONE can support, defend or follow this system. But people do, and when you tell them the truth, they treat you like you're deluded or some extremist. But all you're doing is being honest about it. It is pure and utter MADNESS.

 

[OwzK]

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That is BRILLIANT, thank you

 

[OwzK]

How can Islam reform itself? They would have to throw out the Koran. As it is, they will kill you for ripping a page out of it, or burning it. There are Muslims working to reform Islam, but they have to actually ignore the explicit teachings of Islam to do that, so they can hardly be called Muslims.

I saw an article from a newspaper a couple of days ago on facebook about a picture of the Koran that had been thrown into a toilet in a university in Texas and the headline of the article was "horrendous" or "outrageous" or something like that. I was just laughing lol, it truly is the best place for it.

 

[Magenta]

Also, it goes back to the list/chart of what happens as the Muslim population grows in each country where they gain a foothold. As their numbers increase, they agitate for more and more change, demanding it, rioting, causing massive social upheaval, etc, we see it happening all over the world, as the radical element continues to wage its war of terrorism with beheadings and bombings on a fairly regular basis.. see post 276 on page 14 for a refresher

 

[joaniemarie]

It's blatantly obvious that politicians and those on main stream media count on the public to be lead around like dumb sheep. (The general public look at movie stars and silly families like the Kardashians for pete's sake!). Main stream media/politicians and world powers can control the "masses" that way. Most people would be shocked to find out their usual day to day foods are supporting Islam. How does this stuff get into our countries without us knowing? It's the tip of the iceberg.

We can't allow it to engulf our minds and cause a depressive hopelessness as these realizations can be overpowering to think about for long periods of time. We can only begin see just how far this Islam and other stuff has gone and how long it's gone without being challenged. But just like anything else in life, we are called to shine light where we go as believers. Mentioning it to our families and friends and co workers. Sharing here on CC.

What amazes me is with all this evil going on we have not been taken over sooner. I believe it's because the Holy Spirit in each of us believers has kept back much of it supernaturally. It's very encouraging that even while this evil is going on., the Lord protects us from being demolished. When we believers leave here., there will be so much more evil running rampant with no Holy Spirit to contain it. Time is short as the Bible says so we can even use this as an opportunity to tell more people about Jesus.

 

[Magenta]

Can you imagine what would have happened in the United States had Hilary won? After eight years of rule under a Muslim, who deliberately lied to intentionally misled the nation on his religious orientation, and hired people with direct ties to Islamic terrorism to work in the White House... following the loss of the election of the person he backed, as the rioting demobrats screamed and rioted and cried about needing protection while attacking people and burning the flag, among other acts of sedition and treason, Obama remained silent for a week, and then issued a statement that seemed geared to fan the flames of racism and further divide the nation.

 

[OwzK]

Also, it goes back to the list/chart of what happens as the Muslim population grows in each country where they gain a foothold. As their numbers increase, they agitate for more and more change, demanding it, rioting, causing massive social upheaval, etc, we see it happening all over the world, as the radical element continues to wage its war of terrorism with beheadings and bombings on a fairly regular basis.. see post 276 on page 14 for a refresher

The rioting and the protests just in the UK have been ridiculous. There has been an OUTRAGE from the liberals and from the muslims in the UK about Trump winning, and about the result of the Brexit vote. It's been announced yesterday that there's gonna be a new election in June, and I think it is because of the pressure these muslims and leftists have been putting that's caused it. They simply won't accept the result, for both things. For Trump winning, or for Brexit. There have been protests, they have been going on non-stop on petitions to get rid of Trump/change the democratic result of Brexit. It is madness, and now for some reason out of the blue. In the UK we'll have a new election in June that was only announced yesterday.

It's obviously because of the pressure that the muslims and the leftists put the rest of the country under. I felt a bit intimidated in college being the only one who supported Trump while everyone else is COMPLETELY against him, and it's been the same with Brexit. Young liberals and muslims going CRAZY on facebook and stuff over people who think different to them. It is madness.

About 2 years ago, a poster had been taken off a bus in Birmingham that was for a Christian charity and it had been take down because it supported religion. The next poster they put up was one supporting allah. And you just think, what is wrong with them. It's insanity.

 

[OwzK]

Can you imagine what would have happened in the United States had Hilary won? After eight years of rule under a Muslim, who deliberately lied to intentionally misled the nation on his religious orientation, and hired people with direct ties to Islamic terrorism to work in the White House... following the loss of the election of the person he backed, as the rioting demobrats screamed and rioted and cried about needing protection while attacking people and burning the flag, among other acts of sedition and treason, Obama remained silent for a week, and then issued a statement that seemed geared to fan the flames of racism and further divide the nation.

Notice that Obama NEVER, EVER, EVER said the words "radical islam". It tells you the story, he sees nothing wrong with what they do, and did nothing to stop them. There's plenty he COULD have done, but he didn't, and chose to let it happen.

I agree, it would have been VERY, VERY, VERY BAD if Hitlery Clinton had won.

 

[TraySir]

Was she beaten if she didn't wear it? Come on,dont even try to compare that to what Muslim women endure. Holiness women are not forced on pain of death to cover themselves head to foot with only the eyeballs showing. And yes I agree some of those holiness women are a piece of work. Still no comparison to what Muslim women face.Now some are brainwashed enough that they do it "willingly" and abuse others that dont. Their captors have them so brainwashed. But its pure abuse for women in these countries and they have less value than a goat.

You don't want to be on the wrong side of KG. Knows how to say what needs to be said! Jaybird, give it up. Just know KG is right.

 

[joaniemarie]

Can you imagine what would have happened in the United States had Hilary won? After eight years of rule under a Muslim, who deliberately lied to intentionally misled the nation on his religious orientation, and hired people with direct ties to Islamic terrorism to work in the White House... following the loss of the election of the person he backed, as the rioting demobrats screamed and rioted and cried about needing protection while attacking people and burning the flag, among other acts of sedition and treason, Obama remained silent for a week, and then issued a statement that seemed geared to fan the flames of racism and further divide the nation.

Oh yes, many of us Christian Americans know how close we came to being "demolished" of our rights and way of life here that so many fought to give us. And many of us believe the Lord gave us a "reprieve" so we can have more time to tell more people about Jesus.

President Trump is not a career politician and we don't know if he is a Christian. But he is a man who loves America. He has gained a lot of wealth here and I'm sure as a business man saw many things us average Americans didn't see coming.

Only someone with a lot of wealth and connections could fight the down hill mess of Washington. I believe the Lord set D.Trump up for such a time as this. I can see the Lord's hand in much of what is going on in the world and can also see the enemy trying to fight back with lies and confusion. It's for sure we fight not against flesh and blood ....

For we are not contending against flesh and blood, but against the principalities, against the powers, against the world rulers of this present darkness, against the spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Ephesians 6:12

 

[kaylagrl]

You don't want to be on the wrong side of KG. Knows how to say what needs to be said! Jaybird, give it up. Just know KG is right.

Lol yes I will send the little white devil after ya!

 

[TraySir]

Lol yes I will send the little white devil after ya!

That lil dog ain't no devil.
Oh, I just glanced up to the picture of the lil one.
Yeah, I can see it in the eyes. It's there. But it's a cute devil!

 

[blue_ladybug]

That's because women like you, me, and Kayla, have the moxie to tell truth exactly like it is..And *some* of the men here have no moxie at all. LOL.. Nor any idea how to tell the truth, or even what the truth is. My experiences have been that men do NOT like it when women are smarter, and more intuitive than they are.. LOL

mj007 has been holding a grudge against me probably ever since he defended a pervert asking men to write so they could discuss sexual matters. I was one of the women who was repeatedly attacked and falsely accused of all manner of things because I said that any woman coming to a Christian website and asking men to PM her so they could talk about sex raises a red flag. mj007 accused me and others of many false things, presenting his imaginings as if they were facts when they were simply his delusions.

 

[Angela53510]

And on a more positive note, backing away from the paranoia so evident in this thread, here is the testimony of a Muslim woman who came to Christ. She came because a friend kept presenting Christ. She then read the Bible, and began to realize it was real. She went to church with a friend, and the pastor preached an altar call directed at her. It is short (4.13), and very worthwhile to watch. It encourages me, because it shows how Jesus is so much stronger than anything Islam can throw at us.

Islam is a very corrupt and peverted religion, I agree. Some people say evil, and they are right in so many ways! BUT, we have to separate the religion from the people who were born and raised Muslims. Those are all people Christ died for. We need to focus on winning these individual Muslims, one by one, to Christ. Instead of going rank crazy as happened in this thread.

[video]https://youtu.be/mJzsLmahiIw[/video]

 

[blue_ladybug]

Owz, I know you probably didn't mean any offense with this post, but is it necessary to poke fun at those who DO have PTSD? Newsflash: PTSD is not caused by hurt feelings..

Uh huhhhhhhh I am crying, and suffering from PTSD because my feelings got hurt, can I have a hug and a Starbucks coffee from you?

My fave type is cappuccino