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All we've got is the various scripture references - spirit = wind.
Doesn't tell me much.
Strongs
H7307 ruwach roo'-akh
from H7306;
wind; by resemblance breath, i.e. a sensible (or even violent) exhalation;
figuratively, life, anger, unsubstantiality; by extension, a region of the sky; by
resemblance spirit, but only of a rational being (including its expression and
functions):--air, anger, blast, breath, X cool, courage, mind, X quarter, X
side, spirit((-ual)), tempest, X vain, ((whirl-))wind(-y).
Doesn't tell me much.
Strongs
H7307 ruwach roo'-akh
from H7306;
wind; by resemblance breath, i.e. a sensible (or even violent) exhalation;
figuratively, life, anger, unsubstantiality; by extension, a region of the sky; by
resemblance spirit, but only of a rational being (including its expression and
functions):--air, anger, blast, breath, X cool, courage, mind, X quarter, X
side, spirit((-ual)), tempest, X vain, ((whirl-))wind(-y).
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I unfortunately do not understand the importance of this subject. But what interests me is the wrong perceptions christians has about the immorality of the soul. No human being has immortality. Only God has immortality.
Genesis 2:7 is giving us the components which make up a living soul. God formed the man from the dust of the earth and breathed into his nostrils the breathe of life. Living soul = dust + God's breathe. When we die the reverse happens. Creation in reverse. The dust return to the earth and the breathe (spirit in the nostrils) return to God. We are not our own. We are buy at a price, not of ourselves - the property of God.
We humans are mortal beings meaning we do not have eternal life in ourselves. God alone has immortality. What is the first lie satan told Eve? You should not surely die, You should be like God? And today christians fall for that lie again.
Genesis 2:7 is giving us the components which make up a living soul. God formed the man from the dust of the earth and breathed into his nostrils the breathe of life. Living soul = dust + God's breathe. When we die the reverse happens. Creation in reverse. The dust return to the earth and the breathe (spirit in the nostrils) return to God. We are not our own. We are buy at a price, not of ourselves - the property of God.
We humans are mortal beings meaning we do not have eternal life in ourselves. God alone has immortality. What is the first lie satan told Eve? You should not surely die, You should be like God? And today christians fall for that lie again.
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The spirit or breath obviously seems to be something else, directly from God, that when combined with our physical elements, synthesizes soul, our awareness, consciousness, psyche, self. The spirit leaves upon death; God's breath returns to Himself, our bodies to the ground, dust to dust. The soul is no more until resurrection, when we are raised either to life ever after or the second death, which is the utter destruction of body and soul.
Sadly there is not a whole lot of scriptures on a soul in particular and how it relates with the spirit and body but here is how i see it, the body contains the spirit like the holy spirit for instance. I do not think the spirit and soul are the same thing because the spirit of a person can be defined as several things like when people say I like your spirit when your passionate about something or when people talk about the human spirit and how it bears the will to survive then there are evil spirits that can invade a person but if the holy spirit lives you then no evil evil spirit can enter.
Apart from the human spirit only one spirit can reside in you but a soul is not the same as the spirit. The soul is the true you. For instance I often times will look in the mirror and not recognize the person staring back this is because I have always hated how i look and sound but God has been changing how I see myself for a while now and so when I look at myself in the mirror I see a stranger and cannot even stare into my eyes for very long because It's weird to just stare into a strangers eyes like that.
The reason I don't recognize myself in the mirror is not because I have an identity crises but because that person I see is not the real me it's not what I really look like it's not what I really sound like it is not the real me. My soul is the real me it is the true essence of who i am and who I will be through Christ. I have the soul of a small adoring child who loves to play and be with God like an innocent little child who is just so affectionate towards his loving father and yet at the same time is a mighty warrior with fiery eyes of love and protection for God's children and will without any hesitation go to the extreme of extremes for the sake of only one child saved or lost good or evil the burning fire in his eyes burns of God's fiery love for even the most evil of hearts.
A persons soul is the very core of who they are and who they will be through Christ it is the true us while our spirit is not the same thing.
Apart from the human spirit only one spirit can reside in you but a soul is not the same as the spirit. The soul is the true you. For instance I often times will look in the mirror and not recognize the person staring back this is because I have always hated how i look and sound but God has been changing how I see myself for a while now and so when I look at myself in the mirror I see a stranger and cannot even stare into my eyes for very long because It's weird to just stare into a strangers eyes like that.
The reason I don't recognize myself in the mirror is not because I have an identity crises but because that person I see is not the real me it's not what I really look like it's not what I really sound like it is not the real me. My soul is the real me it is the true essence of who i am and who I will be through Christ. I have the soul of a small adoring child who loves to play and be with God like an innocent little child who is just so affectionate towards his loving father and yet at the same time is a mighty warrior with fiery eyes of love and protection for God's children and will without any hesitation go to the extreme of extremes for the sake of only one child saved or lost good or evil the burning fire in his eyes burns of God's fiery love for even the most evil of hearts.
A persons soul is the very core of who they are and who they will be through Christ it is the true us while our spirit is not the same thing.
Life force... God holds the keys to life and death. When I simplify my beliefs, boil them down to the most basic elements, God grants life, He is the author and giver of life, He calls us out of the world, it is required we lay down our pride inherited from the fall, the veil between God and man is torn away with the acceptance of Christ's sacrifice upon the cross, where He poured out His righteous blood to pay the sin debt of the world. He is the ground of all being. Place your faith in Him and you are reconciled to God; He will raise you to a life more abundant. Reject Him as sovereign of the universe and you pass out of existence at the end of the age following the resurrection and judgement of all.
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