A good article distinguishing Reformed Theology (Calvinism) from hyper-calvinism.

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Source:Reformed Theology Vs. Hyper-Calvinism by Michael Horton

Reformed Theology Vs. Hyper-Calvinism
by Michael Horton

Before the average believer today learns what Reformed theology (i.e., Calvinism) actually is, he first usually has to learn what it’s not. Often, detractors define Reformed theology not according to what it actually teaches, but according to where they think its logic naturally leads. Even more tragically, some hyper-Calvinists have followed the same course. Either way, “Calvinism” ends up being defined by extreme positions that it does not in fact hold as scriptural. The charges leveled against Reformed theology, of which hyper-Calvinism is actually guilty, received a definitive response at the international Synod of Dort (1618–1619), along with the Westminster Confession of Faith and Catechisms.

Is God the Author of Sin?

The God of Israel “is perfect, for all his ways are justice. A God of faithfulness and without iniquity, just and upright is he” (Deut. 32:4–5). In fact, James seems to have real people in mind when he cautions, “Let no one say when he is tempted, ‘I am being tempted by God,’ for God cannot be tempted with evil, and he himself tempts no one” (James 1:13). Sin and evil have their origin not in God or creation, but in the personal will and action of creatures.

Scripture sets forth two guardrails here: On one hand, God “works all things after the counsel of his own will” (Eph. 1:15); on the other, God does not — in fact, cannot — do evil. We catch a glimpse of these two guardrails at once in several passages, most notably in Genesis 45 and Acts 2. In the former, Joseph recognizes that while the intention of his brothers in selling him into slavery was evil, God meant it for good, so that many people could be saved during this famine (vv. 4–8). We read in the same breath in Acts 2:23 that “lawless men” are blamed for the crucifixion, and yet Jesus was “delivered up according to the definite plan and foreknowledge of God….” The challenge is to affirm what Scripture teaches without venturing any further. We know from Scripture that both are true, but not how. Perhaps the most succinct statement of this point is found in the Westminster Confession of Faith (chap. 3.1): “God, from all eternity, did, by the most wise and holy counsel of his own will, freely, and unchangeably ordain whatsoever comes to pass;” — there’s one guardrail — “yet so, as thereby neither is God the author of sin, nor is violence offered to the will of the creature; nor is the liberty or contingency of second causes taken away, but rather established,” and with that, the second guardrail. The same point is made in the Belgic Confession of Faith (Article 13), adding that whatever God has left to His own secret judgment is not for us to probe any further.

Is the Gospel for Everyone?

Isn’t it a bit of false advertising to say on one hand that God has already determined who will be saved and on the other hand to insist that the good news of the Gospel be sincerely and indiscriminately proclaimed to everyone?

But didn’t Christ die for the elect alone? The Canons of Dort pick up on a phrase that was often found in the medieval textbooks (“sufficient for the world, efficient for the elect only”) when it affirms that Christ’s death “is of infinite worth and value, abundantly sufficient to expiate the sins of the whole world” (Second Head, Article 3). Therefore, we hold out to the world “the promise of the gospel … to all persons … without distinction ….” Although many do not embrace it, this “is not owing to any defect or insufficiency in the sacrifice offered by Christ upon the cross, but is wholly to be imputed to themselves” (Second Head, Articles 5–6).

Here once again we are faced with mystery — and the two guardrails that keep us from careening off the cliff in speculation. God loves the world and calls everyone in the world to Christ outwardly through the Gospel, and yet God loves the elect with a saving purpose and calls them by His Spirit inwardly through the same Gospel (John 6:63–64; 10:3–5, 11, 14–18, 25–30; Acts 13:48; Rom. 8:28–30; 2 Tim. 1:9). Both Arminians and hyper-Calvinists ignore crucial passages of Scripture, resolving the mystery in favor of the either-or: either election or the free offer of the Gospel.

Grace for Everybody?

Does God love everybody, or is His kindness simply a cloak for His wrath — fattening the wicked for the slaughter, as some hyper-Calvinists have argued?

Scripture is full of examples of God’s providential goodness, particularly in the Psalms: “The Lord is good to all, and his mercy is over all that he has made …. You open your hand; you satisfy the desire of every living thing” (Ps. 145:9, 16). Jesus calls upon His followers to pray for their enemies for just this reason: “For he makes his sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust” (Matt. 5:44). Christians are supposed to imitate this divine attitude.

The doctrine we are talking about has come to be called “common grace,” in distinction from “saving grace.” Some have objected to this term (some even to the concept), insisting that there is nothing common about grace: there is only one kind of grace, which is sovereign, electing grace. However, it must be said that whatever kindness God shows to anyone for any reason after the fall, can only be regarded as gracious. Once again, we face two guardrails that we dare not transgress: God acts graciously to save the elect and also to sustain the non-elect and cause them to flourish in this mortal life. While it is among the sweetest consolations for believers, election is not the whole story of God’s dealing with this world.

When we, as Christians, affirm common grace, we take this world seriously in all of its sinfulness as well as in all of its goodness as created and sustained by God. We see Christ as the mediator of saving grace to the elect but also of God’s general blessings to a world that is under the curse. Thus, unbelievers can even enrich the lives of believers. John Calvin pleads against the fanaticism that would forbid all secular influence on Christians, concluding that when we disparage the truth, goodness, and beauty found among unbelievers, we are heaping contempt on the Holy Spirit Himself who bestows such gifts of His common grace (Institutes of the Christian Religion, 2.2.15).

Is Calvinism a License to Sin?

The first thing we need to say, with Martyn Lloyd-Jones, is that if we are never accused of preaching antinomianism (that is, grace-as-license), we probably have not preached the Gospel correctly. After all, Paul anticipates the question, “Shall we then sin that grace may abound?” precisely because his own argument from 3:9 to this point has pressed it: “Where sin abounds, grace abounds all the more” (5:21). At the same time, some Reformed Christians, especially those liberated from legalistic backgrounds, seem to end Paul’s argument at Romans 5:21, concluding, in effect, “God likes to forgive, I like to sin — the perfect relationship!”

The difference between being accused of antinomianism (literally, anti-law-ism) and being guilty as charged is whether we are willing to follow Paul on into chapter 6. There the apostle answers this charge by an announcement of what God has done! At first, this would seem to favor antinomians, since they place all of the emphasis on what God has done and reject, or at least downplay, the importance of imperatives. Yet in fact, what Paul announces is that God has accomplished not only our justification in Christ, but our baptism into Christ. His argument is basically this: being united to Christ necessarily brings justification and regeneration, which issues in sanctification. He does not say that Christians should not, or must not, live in sin as the principle of their existence, but that they cannot — it is an impossibility. That they do continue to sin is evident enough, especially in chapter 7, but now they struggle against it.

The fathers at Dort recognized the charge that the Reformed doctrine “ leads off the minds of men from all piety and religion; that it is an opiate administered by the flesh and the devil,” and leads inevitably to “libertinism” and “renders men carnally secure, since they are persuaded by it that nothing can hinder the salvation of the elect, let them live as they please” (Conclusion). Yet they would neither surrender the comfort of justification by Christ’s righteousness imputed nor of sanctification by Christ’s resurrection life imparted. Perfection of sanctification in this life is impossible, but just as impossible is a condition known today as the “carnal Christian.” One is either dead in Adam or alive in Christ. Again, some wish to resolve this mystery: either we can be free from all known sin, as John Wesley taught, or we can be in a state of spiritual death, as antinomianism teaches. However satisfying to our reason, such an easy resolution in either direction ignores the clear teaching of Scripture and robs us of the joy of such a full salvation.

So the two guardrails on this point emerge from the fog of legalism and antinomianism: justification and sanctification are not to be confused, but they are also not to be separated.

In addition to these other charges, Reformed theology is often regarded as “rationalistic” — that is, a system built on logic rather than on Scripture. However, I hope we have begun to see that the real rationalists are the extremists on either side of these debates. The wisdom of the Reformed confessions is that they refuse to speculate beyond Scripture and insist on proclaiming the whole counsel of God, not simply the passages that seem to reinforce one-sided emphases. It is not a question of where the logic should lead us but where the Scriptures do lead us. It might be easier to resolve the mystery in simple, either-or solutions, but such a course would certainly not be safer. So let us too strive to read all of the Scriptures together, keeping a sharp lookout for those guardrails!
 

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So.... just how many angels CAN dance on the head of that pin?

Seriously, I have issues with the obsessive need to "pigeonhole" people into categories... "well, he's a preterist, post-modern, Calvinist/Armenian, OSAS, hyper-grace, low-fat, no sugar kind of guy.... so, obviously, whatever he says is wrong, and he's going to Hell"

I usually see value in discussing differing ideas, as that can lead to knowledge, at least, and wisdom at best.... but this need to categorize people as to each of their beliefs is detrimental to fellowship, in my opinion.

It's pretty easy to see that played out on a daily basis in this forum...
 
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Are these male angels or female angels on the pin? They are different sizes so that affects the "truth"...:rolleyes:
 
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So you would just call yourself a Christian?
 

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So you would just call yourself a Christian?
Yes, or simply a follower of Christ.

I grew up in a denomination that used to think that other denominations were wrong... they didn't come out and say they were going to hell, but they said they were in error.

From my reading, and (hopefully) increasing understanding, it is apparent to me that the label "Christian" is a pretty big tent, and there is not a long narrow list of "things you must believe" in order to be a follower of Jesus.

By labeling each other, we encourage disagreements, which disrupts the body of Christ.

We need to remember, he's a finger, I'm an ear. She's an appendix, and the other one is an elbow. All of us together, working in unison, make up the body.
 
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I always said," I am a compatibilist or a soft determinist.".............In the end and at its logical conclusion it was just a "soft" way of saying I was hyper-calvinist.

Calvinism is hyper-calvinism. No ifs,ands or buts about it.

Calvinism has Gods sovereignty choosing mans salvation. PERIOD. I just learned to soften it up a bit.

Christianity has Gods RIGHTEOUSNESS/JUSTICE saving man the moment WHOSOEVER believe's.
 
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NickT,
I'm a Calvinist, but have never run into a hyper-Calvinist. So thanks. At least I know what a hyper-Calvinist is now, since so many throw that one out as a charge to dismiss Calvinism all together.
 
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So.... just how many angels CAN dance on the head of that pin?

Seriously, I have issues with the obsessive need to "pigeonhole" people into categories... "well, he's a preterist, post-modern, Calvinist/Armenian, OSAS, hyper-grace, low-fat, no sugar kind of guy.... so, obviously, whatever he says is wrong, and he's going to Hell"

I usually see value in discussing differing ideas, as that can lead to knowledge, at least, and wisdom at best.... but this need to categorize people as to each of their beliefs is detrimental to fellowship, in my opinion.

It's pretty easy to see that played out on a daily basis in this forum...
Do you also object to all labels? You know. Wouldn't want anyone thinking your a Texan. Or, worse yet, from Pennsylvania! :eek: Is "guy" out? Does your voter's information record no party affiliation? If you're married, I guess wearing a wedding ring is out. Can't really be a sports fan, because you're bound to root for one team over another, or one sport over another. So, why an obsession against these labels in particular?

Isn't it a lot easier for me to tell you I'm a gift-believing, non-eschatology-believing, amateur apologist, Presbyterian Church of America-believer than having to give you 20,000 paragraphs of what I believe without naming it, before we even get around to discussing differing ideas?
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This is astoundingly good. It's been my entire quiet complaint! In picking a side, men can be saying something true and STILL be wrong, because they reject the scripture that counterbalances. So both sides of an argument become wrong for the fact that they can't see the counterbalance (or as this author calls them, the "guardrails.")

They both have fallen into ditches on opposite sides of the road!
Astounding article!
 
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So.... just how many angels CAN dance on the head of that pin?

Seriously, I have issues with the obsessive need to "pigeonhole" people into categories... "well, he's a preterist, post-modern, Calvinist/Armenian, OSAS, hyper-grace, low-fat, no sugar kind of guy.... so, obviously, whatever he says is wrong, and he's going to Hell"

I usually see value in discussing differing ideas, as that can lead to knowledge, at least, and wisdom at best.... but this need to categorize people as to each of their beliefs is detrimental to fellowship, in my opinion.

It's pretty easy to see that played out on a daily basis in this forum...
I agree! In writing, we call this "the single story." It takes peoples voices away. Single stories are like...all women are bad drivers, white men can't jump, etc. It is designed to take away a persons uniqueness and their voice. You can dismiss them because you have given them a single story. No need to get to know them individually because they have no individuality. They are only what you've labeled them to be.
 

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Check these guys out this is their take on fellowship with an Arminian, they have two articles on Arminianism and hyper-Calvinism, read some of their articles everyone is a heretic.
 

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Do you also object to all labels? You know. Wouldn't want anyone thinking your a Texan. Or, worse yet, from Pennsylvania! :eek: Is "guy" out? Does your voter's information record no party affiliation? If you're married, I guess wearing a wedding ring is out. Can't really be a sports fan, because you're bound to root for one team over another, or one sport over another. So, why an obsession against these labels in particular?

Isn't it a lot easier for me to tell you I'm a gift-believing, non-eschatology-believing, amateur apologist, Presbyterian Church of America-believer than having to give you 20,000 paragraphs of what I believe without naming it, before we even get around to discussing differing ideas?
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I believe like the guy said... never ask a man if he's from Texas... if he is, he will TELL you... if he's not, there's no need to embarrass him... :D

Because THESE labels cause (or CAN cause) divisions in Christ's body. I don't mind "claiming" what/who I am, but if people are using the labels to denigrate other believers, I think they are wrong. And that seems to be what happens nearly every time one of these discussions happen.. at least here on CC.

If I mention here (which I have, many times) that I attend a Church of Christ, then I always get comments about negatives and bad experiences that people have had with "Church of Christers".... and lots of mistaken ideas of what "they" believe.

I'd much rather just be known as a follower of Jesus... that eliminates a LOT of pre-conceived notions about who I am, and what I believe.

Paul seemed to dismiss "pigeonholing" other believers, as well....

For since there is jealousy and strife among you, are you not fleshly, and are you not walking [SUP][a][/SUP]like mere men? [SUP]4 [/SUP]For when one says, “I am of Paul,” and another, “I am of Apollos,” are you not mere men?[SUP]5 [/SUP]What then is Apollos? And what is Paul? Servants through whom you believed, even as the Lord gave opportunity to each one. [SUP]6 [/SUP]I planted, Apollos watered, but God was causing the growth.
 
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I believe like the guy said... never ask a man if he's from Texas... if he is, he will TELL you... if he's not, there's no need to embarrass him... :D

Because THESE labels cause (or CAN cause) divisions in Christ's body. I don't mind "claiming" what/who I am, but if people are using the labels to denigrate other believers, I think they are wrong. And that seems to be what happens nearly every time one of these discussions happen.. at least here on CC.

If I mention here (which I have, many times) that I attend a Church of Christ, then I always get comments about negatives and bad experiences that people have had with "Church of Christers".... and lots of mistaken ideas of what "they" believe.

I'd much rather just be known as a follower of Jesus... that eliminates a LOT of pre-conceived notions about who I am, and what I believe.

Paul seemed to dismiss "pigeonholing" other believers, as well....
Yeah, I tend to go with "Christian" until someone starts asking for specifics. The specifics tend to cut down on explanations though, (until people prefer to insist in what I believe is wrong, even before they even get what I believe. :rolleyes:)

How much do you want to bet BDF is going to spend the next 3-9 months arguing over Calvinism now. lol
 
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So you would just call yourself a Christian?
Not at all....Son of God and Brother to Jesus....

I stopped using the term Christian almost 20 years ago....the term is polluted now and can mean anything....

historically speaking when they were first called Christians in Antioch, was really not an endearing term, but a very derogatory term....
 

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I assume you are talking about my "Paul" quote?

I know that this topic was not what he was discussing specifically, but the principle is established... dividing the body over non-salvation issues is to be avoided at all costs. THAT is what he was talking about.

One person is not more "saved" than another simply by who taught them, or who they "followed". We are all believers, with differing levels of understanding and maturity.... and, with (gasp) different beliefs. if those beliefs are not salvation issues, then we are to accept our brothers and sisters exactly where they are... because, to them, YOU are the odd one.

The good thing is that it doesn't make you or me any less brothers in Christ. You can be as squirrely as you want to be about all the non-essentials of our faith, and you are still my brother. And, like it or not, I am yours, as well....:p