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    In any of the Creeds of the early Church and the Holy Bible?

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    Learn the history of the term and you'll get it. (It isn't supposed to be straight from the Bible, nor is it supposed to be alone.) Look up the Five Solas to get you started.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Depleted View Post
    Learn the history of the term and you'll get it. (It isn't supposed to be straight from the Bible, nor is it supposed to be alone.) Look up the Five Solas to get you started.
    That is the problem; "Sola Scripture" doesn't exist. Even the historical creeds of the early Churches never referred to the concept of "Sola Scriptura".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deliverances View Post
    That is the problem; "Sola Scripture" doesn't exist. Even the historical creeds of the early Churches never referred to the concept of "Sola Scriptura".
    Look harder
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deliverances View Post
    In any of the Creeds of the early Church and the Holy Bible?
    We know God says His word is truth,and there is no other,and all scripture is given by the Spirit,so if it does not state those exact words,sola scripture in the Bible,what does that mean,and people know what they are saying concerning it.Depend on scriptures alone,and not tradition,and God says all scripture is God breathed,and profitable.

    It is like people that say,the Bible does not say rapture,but they know what they mean,resurrection,and if they say rapture that throws it off as if it is not true.

    People may use different words,but have the same meaning as another wording in the Bible,and then they say you are speaking falsehood,when they know what they mean.

    The Bible said,do not rob.Oh you must be telling a lie,for it says do not steal.
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    Real Christiansare Sola powered..............​

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deliverances View Post
    That is the problem; "Sola Scripture" doesn't exist. Even the historical creeds of the early Churches never referred to the concept of "Sola Scriptura".
    Ok here is a small article about Sola Scriptura from John MacArthur it's brief but it gets to the point.

    The Reformation principle of sola Scriptura has to do with the sufficiency of Scripture as our supreme authority in all spiritual matters. Sola Scriptura simply means that all truth necessary for our salvation and spiritual life is taught either explicitly or implicitly in Scripture. It is not a claim that all truth of every kind is found in Scripture. The most ardent defender of sola Scriptura will concede, for example, that Scripture has little or nothing to say about DNA structures, microbiology, the rules of Chinese grammar, or rocket science. This or that “scientific truth,” for example, may or may not be actually true, whether or not it can be supported by Scripture—but Scripture is a “more sure Word,” standing above all other truth in its authority and certainty. It is “more sure,” according to the apostle Peter, than the data we gather firsthand through our senses (2 Peter 1:19). Therefore, Scripture is the highest and supreme authority on any matter on which it speaks.
    But there are many important questions on which Scripture is silent. Sola Scriptura makes no claim to the contrary. Nor does sola Scriptura claim that everything Jesus or the apostles ever taught is preserved in Scripture. It only means that everything necessary, everything binding on our consciences, and everything God requires of us is given to us in Scripture (2 Peter 1:3).
    Furthermore, we are forbidden to add to or take away from Scripture (cf. Deut. 4:2; 12:32; Rev. 22:18-19). To add to it is to lay on people a burden that God Himself does not intend for them to bear (cf. Matt. 23:4).
    Scripture is therefore the perfect and only standard of spiritual truth, revealing infallibly all that we must believe in order to be saved and all that we must do in order to glorify God. That—no more, no less—is what sola Scriptura means.
    “The whole counsel of God, concerning all things necessary for his own glory, man’s salvation, faith, and life, is either expressly set down in scripture, or by good and necessary consequence may be deduced from scripture: unto which nothing at any time is to be added, whether by new revelations of the Spirit, or traditions of men.” —Westminster Confession of Faith


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    The Bible is silent on many truths, the sky is blue, but not really, the Bible makes no mention of it either way, as far as it color.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MattforJesus View Post
    We know God says His word is truth,and there is no other,and all scripture is given by the Spirit,so if it does not state those exact words,sola scripture in the Bible,what does that mean,and people know what they are saying concerning it.Depend on scriptures alone,and not tradition,and God says all scripture is God breathed,and profitable. It is like people that say,the Bible does not say rapture,but they know what they mean,resurrection,and if they say rapture that throws it off as if it is not true. People may use different words,but have the same meaning as another wording in the Bible,and then they say you are speaking falsehood,when they know what they mean. The Bible said,do not rob.Oh you must be telling a lie,for it says do not steal.
    You forgot about this verse. Thessalonians 2:14 Therefore, brethren, stand fast; and hold the traditions which you have learned, whether by word, or by our epistle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Locutus View Post
    Real Christiansare Sola powered..............​
    "Sola Help Me Finda Scriptura".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laish View Post
    Look harder Blessings Bill
    "Sola Scriptura" is still not here or there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny_B View Post
    The Bible is silent on many truths, the sky is blue, but not really, the Bible makes no mention of it either way, as far as it color.
    The early texts' must have known what they were teaching.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laish View Post
    Ok here is a small article about Sola Scriptura from John MacArthur it's brief but it gets to the point. The Reformation principle of sola Scriptura has to do with the sufficiency of Scripture as our supreme authority in all spiritual matters. Sola Scriptura simply means that all truth necessary for our salvation and spiritual life is taught either explicitly or implicitly in Scripture. It is not a claim that all truth of every kind is found in Scripture. The most ardent defender of sola Scriptura will concede, for example, that Scripture has little or nothing to say about DNA structures, microbiology, the rules of Chinese grammar, or rocket science. This or that “scientific truth,” for example, may or may not be actually true, whether or not it can be supported by Scripture—but Scripture is a “more sure Word,” standing above all other truth in its authority and certainty. It is “more sure,” according to the apostle Peter, than the data we gather firsthand through our senses (2 Peter 1:19). Therefore, Scripture is the highest and supreme authority on any matter on which it speaks. But there are many important questions on which Scripture is silent. Sola Scriptura makes no claim to the contrary. Nor does sola Scriptura claim that everything Jesus or the apostles ever taught is preserved in Scripture. It only means that everything necessary, everything binding on our consciences, and everything God requires of us is given to us in Scripture (2 Peter 1:3). Furthermore, we are forbidden to add to or take away from Scripture (cf. Deut. 4:2; 12:32; Rev. 22:18-19). To add to it is to lay on people a burden that God Himself does not intend for them to bear (cf. Matt. 23:4). Scripture is therefore the perfect and only standard of spiritual truth, revealing infallibly all that we must believe in order to be saved and all that we must do in order to glorify God. That—no more, no less—is what sola Scriptura means.
    “The whole counsel of God, concerning all things necessary for his own glory, man’s salvation, faith, and life, is either expressly set down in scripture, or by good and necessary consequence may be deduced from scripture: unto which nothing at any time is to be added, whether by new revelations of the Spirit, or traditions of men.” —Westminster Confession of Faith I hope this helps Blessings Bill
    You forgot about this verse. Thessalonians 2:14 Therefore, brethren, stand fast; and hold the traditions which you have learned, whether by word, or by our epistle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deliverances View Post
    You forgot about this verse. Thessalonians 2:14 Therefore, brethren, stand fast; and hold the traditions which you have learned, whether by word, or by our epistle.
    What is your agenda here? You ask a question, and then tell people that their answer is incomplete? Clearly you are not here to learn, but to teach. So what are you trying to teach... bottom line?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deliverances View Post
    You forgot about this verse. Thessalonians 2:14 Therefore, brethren, stand fast; and hold the traditions which you have learned, whether by word, or by our epistle.
    If you note Paul is speaking exclusively about his teachings. The traditions are only the ones he (Paul ) put in place . The verse dose not refer to traditions in general brother .

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    Paul had in mind apostolic traditions preserved through the NT epistles.

    Colossians 2:8 See to it that no one takes you captive through philosophy and empty deception, according to the tradition of men, according to the elementary principles of the world, rather than according to Christ.
    Ezekiel 18:23 Do I have any pleasure in the death of the wicked,” declares the Lord God, “rather than that he should turn from his ways and live?

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    1. Scripture cannot be broken:
    "If he called them gods to whom the word of God came--and the Scripture cannot be broken--..." (John 10:35)


    2. Scripture is enough for getting the eternal life:
    ""Abraham replied, 'They have Moses and the Prophets; let them listen to them.'"
    (Luke 16:29), the context is about the life after death


    3. Scripture is above any other sources of teaching, i.e. over tradition:
    " Jesus replied, “And why do you break the command of God for the sake of your tradition?" (Matthew15:3)


    When you join these three points together (Scripture is true, Scripture is enough, Scripture is over human additions), you will get the core of Sola Scriptura, IMHO.


    To your specific question, "Sola Scriptura" term is not in the Bible, because its a Latin theological term. The meaning of it can be found as I posted above, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trofimus View Post
    1. Scripture cannot be broken:
    "If he called them gods to whom the word of God came--and the Scripture cannot be broken--..." (John 10:35)


    2. Scripture is enough for getting the eternal life:
    ""Abraham replied, 'They have Moses and the Prophets; let them listen to them.'"
    (Luke 16:29), the context is about the life after death


    3. Scripture is above any other sources of teaching, i.e. over tradition:
    " Jesus replied, “And why do you break the command of God for the sake of your tradition?" (Matthew15:3)


    When you join these three points together (Scripture is true, Scripture is enough, Scripture is over human additions), you will get the core of Sola Scriptura, IMHO.


    To your specific question, "Sola Scriptura" term is not in the Bible, because its a Latin theological term. The meaning of it can be found as I posted above, though.
    You know what's interesting about 2 is Jesus said that they would not pass away, Moses represents the Law. Matthew 5:17-19 "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.18 For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished.19 Therefore whoever relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever does them and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven."
    John 6:63, 65 "It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh is no help at all. The words that I have spoken to you are spirit and life....65 And he said, “This is why I told you that no one can come to me unless it is granted him by the Father.”

    I Corinthians 4:7 "For who sees anything different in you? What do you have that you did not receive? If then you received it, why do you boast as if you did not receive it?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny_B View Post
    You know what's interesting about 2 is Jesus said that they would not pass away, Moses represents the Law. Matthew 5:17-19 "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.18 For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished.19 Therefore whoever relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever does them and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven."
    Yes, He did not come to abolish the Law, but to fulfill it.

    As Paul said in the letter to Galatians.

    The Law and Prophets are fulfilled now. It means they are still the Words of God, but not for us today. The reason of their existence was fulfilled by Christ.
    We have the New Testament as a rule of life today but we still read the Old Testament to know the context.
    Do not be worried about many things - only one thing is needed (Lk 10:41-42).

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    What is our problem, Deliverances? You keep trying to blast holes in Christianity! Where there are none! Or put down well thought out articles, such as why we need the Bible only for salvation!

    So you are not a Christian? How can I share Jesus with you? I just know how important Christ is to me, and I would love to share what he has done for me, and how to be saved! If you don't want to talk to me, I am certain there are many men here who would be happy to share the gospel with you. Or, you could just read the Bible you don't seem to like or think is important!
    "And He has said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for power is perfected in weakness.” Most gladly, therefore, I will rather boast about my weaknesses, so that the power of Christ may dwell in me." 2 Cor. 12:9 NASB

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