Pharisees and arrogance
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We just need to leave some in the hands of the Lord and not interact with them as they continually make up things from their own mind and no discussions can be done without the mis-representations, so it becomes a waste of time and just potential for malice and bitterness to come and by it many be defiled.
The Lord will be faithful to us all.....All is well. Let's pray and believe for the best!
The Lord will be faithful to us all.....All is well. Let's pray and believe for the best!
When I saw the title I thought I'd go to the OP. Having read it, it made a lot of sense. I thought, hmm, some vipers going to be the main antagonists here. In their words, they would prefer to be defenders of truth.
Look at how they try to abuse you Peter.
And when they get a reaction from you, they bare their teeth and sneer.
And preacher4truth is mocking you trying to tell you that you are not allowed to be poetic, you're supposed to be a scripture robot like vipers often use as a weapon against you.
They claim to be victims of your words, or to speak 'for all victims' of your words, to claim you are a defiler of the truth. And they do it by trying to defile you. Funny that right?
Expose the corruption in people. We are meant to, instead of pretend it isn't there.
Look at how they try to abuse you Peter.
And when they get a reaction from you, they bare their teeth and sneer.
And preacher4truth is mocking you trying to tell you that you are not allowed to be poetic, you're supposed to be a scripture robot like vipers often use as a weapon against you.
They claim to be victims of your words, or to speak 'for all victims' of your words, to claim you are a defiler of the truth. And they do it by trying to defile you. Funny that right?
Expose the corruption in people. We are meant to, instead of pretend it isn't there.
I think you are the one without wisdom or insight my friend. You are quick to condemn
and issue a decree.
Unless Christ speaks to your heart you have nothing.
For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also. matt 6:21
These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me matt 15:8
Just as Moses lifted up the snake in the wilderness, so the Son of Man must be lifted up,[f] 15 that everyone who believes may have eternal life in him. John 3:14
The law is the gatekeeper to the Kingdom.
As for other matters, brothers and sisters, we instructed you how to live in order to please God, as in fact you are living. 1 Thess 4:1
We are not trying to please people but God, who tests our hearts. 1 Thess 2:4
You must obey my laws and be careful to follow my decrees. I am the Lord your God. Lev 18:4
For it is not those who hear the law who are righteous in God’s sight, but it is those who obey the law who will be declared righteous. rom 2:13
For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.” gal 5:14
Only love can unlock the gate to heaven and to the heart.
You are worthy to take the scroll and to open its seals, because you were slain, and with your blood you purchased for God persons from every tribe and language and people and nation. And the door to the heart only has a handle on the inside.
rev 5:9
Make the heart of this people calloused; make their ears dull and close their eyes. Otherwise they might see with their eyes, hear with their ears, understand with their hearts, and turn and be healed.
Isaiah 6:10 John 12:40
And the door to the heart only has a handle on the inside.
Here I am! I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in and eat with that person, and they with me. Rev 3:20
Jesus never forces His way on anybody, we have to ask Him in.
Unless Christ speaks to your heart you have nothing.
The heart is the source of what we are, from it spring sin and blessing.
Without our hearts being purified and cleansed we are doomed to judgement
because sin will have its hold on us.
The law is the gatekeeper to the Kingdom
The law shows we are sinners and with Christ love and power within us
shows us we are no longer under condemnation because we fulfil the law
by loving our neighbour from the heart.
Only love can unlock the gate to heaven and to the heart
Love is what our hearts desire and is the biggest healing thing we can ever
receive. It is our life blood and everything we need.
Jesus died for our sins and is worthy of be our redeemer in Heaven unlocking
the gates so we can enter in. It is His love the made this all possible.
And the door to the heart only has a handle on the inside
Jesus never forces anything on us because it would destroy us.
To have life we must open the door of our own free will. It appears
to be an eternal truth that we must take the step and God provides the
rest, the step of faith, once taken he grants us life and blessing.
and issue a decree.
Unless Christ speaks to your heart you have nothing.
For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also. matt 6:21
These people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me matt 15:8
Just as Moses lifted up the snake in the wilderness, so the Son of Man must be lifted up,[f] 15 that everyone who believes may have eternal life in him. John 3:14
The law is the gatekeeper to the Kingdom.
As for other matters, brothers and sisters, we instructed you how to live in order to please God, as in fact you are living. 1 Thess 4:1
We are not trying to please people but God, who tests our hearts. 1 Thess 2:4
You must obey my laws and be careful to follow my decrees. I am the Lord your God. Lev 18:4
For it is not those who hear the law who are righteous in God’s sight, but it is those who obey the law who will be declared righteous. rom 2:13
For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.” gal 5:14
Only love can unlock the gate to heaven and to the heart.
You are worthy to take the scroll and to open its seals, because you were slain, and with your blood you purchased for God persons from every tribe and language and people and nation. And the door to the heart only has a handle on the inside.
rev 5:9
Make the heart of this people calloused; make their ears dull and close their eyes. Otherwise they might see with their eyes, hear with their ears, understand with their hearts, and turn and be healed.
Isaiah 6:10 John 12:40
And the door to the heart only has a handle on the inside.
Here I am! I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in and eat with that person, and they with me. Rev 3:20
Jesus never forces His way on anybody, we have to ask Him in.
Unless Christ speaks to your heart you have nothing.
The heart is the source of what we are, from it spring sin and blessing.
Without our hearts being purified and cleansed we are doomed to judgement
because sin will have its hold on us.
The law is the gatekeeper to the Kingdom
The law shows we are sinners and with Christ love and power within us
shows us we are no longer under condemnation because we fulfil the law
by loving our neighbour from the heart.
Only love can unlock the gate to heaven and to the heart
Love is what our hearts desire and is the biggest healing thing we can ever
receive. It is our life blood and everything we need.
Jesus died for our sins and is worthy of be our redeemer in Heaven unlocking
the gates so we can enter in. It is His love the made this all possible.
And the door to the heart only has a handle on the inside
Jesus never forces anything on us because it would destroy us.
To have life we must open the door of our own free will. It appears
to be an eternal truth that we must take the step and God provides the
rest, the step of faith, once taken he grants us life and blessing.
Who is Warner Sallman?
By the way, you are calling my statements heresies.
For an idea or expression to be a heresy it has to contradict some important concept or
belief.
Knowing your attempt to codify everything, you probably have some connection or problem
with these issues. So please tell me your wisdom or else you are just a propogandist.
It would not surprise me if you have contempt for love and the heart.
I have come across people who talk like you, ending up exactly like this in reality.
So please do tell, or are you actually another closed book where being one in Christ
is more of an ambition than a reality...
By the way, you are calling my statements heresies.
For an idea or expression to be a heresy it has to contradict some important concept or
belief.
Knowing your attempt to codify everything, you probably have some connection or problem
with these issues. So please tell me your wisdom or else you are just a propogandist.
It would not surprise me if you have contempt for love and the heart.
I have come across people who talk like you, ending up exactly like this in reality.
So please do tell, or are you actually another closed book where being one in Christ
is more of an ambition than a reality...
How do we define truth
I have often wondered how we define spiritual truths.
We are born again, new creations in Christ.
Does that mean we just start again and everything from our past
lives is forgotten, so we have to learn to walk, talk all over again?
Clearly not. But to start to state this and work things through for
some is heresy, adding to scripture. But often for such as these
they are happy to add to scripture on issues they like lol.
Some have said emotions have little part to play in life.
What junk. We get married only because of emotions.
We die for our children above others only because of emotions.
We enjoy our work or hate it only because of emotions.
Emotions are so powerful, we get scared that stirring them up
too much causes trouble. In social circles it is stay away from
religion and politics, or expect fireworks.
Now being a social creature sometimes I have to think about things
a little before it dawns on me how easily people lie and distort what
really runs their lives. But then they say Christ is their Lord and do not
know much of what He asked them to do, so often not very reliable folks
are they.
I have often wondered how we define spiritual truths.
We are born again, new creations in Christ.
Does that mean we just start again and everything from our past
lives is forgotten, so we have to learn to walk, talk all over again?
Clearly not. But to start to state this and work things through for
some is heresy, adding to scripture. But often for such as these
they are happy to add to scripture on issues they like lol.
Some have said emotions have little part to play in life.
What junk. We get married only because of emotions.
We die for our children above others only because of emotions.
We enjoy our work or hate it only because of emotions.
Emotions are so powerful, we get scared that stirring them up
too much causes trouble. In social circles it is stay away from
religion and politics, or expect fireworks.
Now being a social creature sometimes I have to think about things
a little before it dawns on me how easily people lie and distort what
really runs their lives. But then they say Christ is their Lord and do not
know much of what He asked them to do, so often not very reliable folks
are they.
I'm pretty sure that continuing to go into someones threads and post is the opposite of having anything to do with them. You've been saying for over a year that you refuse to have anything to do with him but it's really, really not true. It's become slightly like a broken record at this point. Even those who love you are tired of this episode. And yes, I know you have every right to post in whatever thread you like. But at this point, it's like you are almost doing the same thing to peter that that other guy is doing to you. You just don't do it as directly. If I had a nickel for every time you say in relation to Peter: we should just ignore those who cause divisions until they repent, I might very well be rich. And going into his threads and posting about him but not directly to him is NOT ignoring him or refusing to have anything to do with him. You can see that, right?
I have to say, I do get tired of hearing that the law was done away with. I don't believe that. The law is spiritual and good. And He makes us to keep it when we follow and abide. Not outwardly, but truly - in spirit and truth.
Anyway, I puzzled over what you meant by the law is the gatekeeper when you said it somewhere last week, but it is true that idolaters and the greedy and murderers will not enter. This is to say that those who break Gods' laws will not enter. It's why I take it seriously when I have anger in my heart toward someone.
Anyway, I puzzled over what you meant by the law is the gatekeeper when you said it somewhere last week, but it is true that idolaters and the greedy and murderers will not enter. This is to say that those who break Gods' laws will not enter. It's why I take it seriously when I have anger in my heart toward someone.
I have no problem with things stated poetically, and never said one word against such a thing.
The problem is when the poem and poet are unbiblical.
For two (namely Stunnedbygrace and mj007) to say and agree that I told another that he is not allowed to be poetic is, well, frankly a lie.
The problem is when the poem and poet are unbiblical.
For two (namely Stunnedbygrace and mj007) to say and agree that I told another that he is not allowed to be poetic is, well, frankly a lie.
I post my beliefs about a subject that is on a thread. If the preaching and the teaching of the grace of God in Christ offends us and exposes our belief system to be seen for what it is - then that is a good thing. If people "identify" with this and it offends them - well - that is between them and the Lord.
I don't post for Peter - it is for those readers that don't know what is going on and for those of us that actually still do interact with those that we know is just going to stir up strife.
I will continue to post in any thread what my beliefs are and if others want to continue to mis-represent what is being said - I can't stop them but I can choose not to interact with them.
I don't post for Peter - it is for those readers that don't know what is going on and for those of us that actually still do interact with those that we know is just going to stir up strife.
I will continue to post in any thread what my beliefs are and if others want to continue to mis-represent what is being said - I can't stop them but I can choose not to interact with them.
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Well...I wasn't trying to be accusational. I was saying it seemed to me also that him posting poetically was what you didn't like because you said nothing he said in that post was biblical. But it was, it was just presented in his own words or...paraphrases. He was kind enough to post it more in depth, with some verses, because you might really have just not seen that it was biblical and needed some verses to help you understand what he was trying to state. I didn't say that you told him it was not okay to post poetically. I just assumed you might not like poetic statements because you said nothing he said in the post was biblical but I saw that it was.
stunnedbygrace I am addressing what these traits look like in real life and unfortunately you know exactly the behavior it exposes in some people and you know for a fact that they are lying because you too were insulted by this type of behavior and have witnessed the very same things being done to others.
You are a witness of this being true. ( remember - you thought I was a woman originally...lol )
It is something to stay away from and not interact with them directly IMO.
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