Can Incomplete Faith Nail Us to the Cross of Christ?

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If I troll long enough, I will find the one serious fish who wants to make his faith complete.
Good luck.....faith is faith.....end of story......you cannot improve on something that God gives....it is already perfect.....not that it cannot be grown, because it can be increased and grown....but to say it is incomplete misses the mark....regardless of how many times you throw James into the mix........for the millionth time

BEFORE GOD we are justified by FAITH
BEFORE MEN our JUSTIFYING FAITH is SEEN IN OUR WORKS

END OF STORY!
 
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Good luck.....faith is faith.....end of story......you cannot improve on something that God gives....it is already perfect.....not that it cannot be grown, because it can be increased and grown....but to say it is incomplete misses the mark....regardless of how many times you throw James into the mix........for the millionth time BEFORE GOD we are justified by FAITH BEFORE MEN our JUSTIFYING FAITH is SEEN IN OUR WORKS END OF STORY!
Is your faith incomplete? If you believe in Jesus without denying anything He has revealed, you are on the narrow road.
 
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Is your faith incomplete? If you believe in Jesus without denying anything He has revealed, you are on the narrow road.
blah blah blah more circular reasoning......Why would a saved child of God denying anything Jesus said....I will tell you what gets overlooked though.....

JESUS was under the LAW until his death ratified the NEW Covenant......and JESUS had many things that needed to be taught, but the disciples were not yet ready (hence the N.T. after the gospels) and the bible is clear concerning FAITH.....every man has been dealt a measure of it except JESUS.....

WHAT is your point......other than to set up another works for salvation thread? or TROLL like some have said!
 
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There's Weak faith. Little faith. Much faith. Great faith. One faith.

But never heard of incomplete faith.

Where KJV uses Perfect, others use Complete.
Looked up complete and faith. And so,

You see that his faith and his actions were working together, and his faith was made complete by what he did. James 2.22 NIV.

Not much help.

I'm COMPLETELY baffled.
 

miknik5

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Colossians 2
Do you agree that Paul was speaking THE TRUTH IN CHRIST?
 

miknik5

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Incomplete faith damns souls to eternal hell. Galatians 2:19 For I, through the law, am dead to the law, that I may live to God: with Christ I am nailed to the cross. Corinthians 1:18 For the word of the cross, to them indeed that perish, is foolishness; but to them that are saved, that is, to us, it is the power of God. Philippians 3:18 For many walk, of whom I have told you often (and now tell you weeping), that they are enemies of the cross of Christ;
Please forgive me for asking you this question
Why did you choose your name to be Deliverances?
im not understanding why you made it plural

Do you agree with John 8 that whom THE SON
sets free is free And do you think that those whom THE SON set free don't know it?
 
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Can Incomplete Faith Nail Us to the Cross of Christ?

No, regardless of the strength or weakness of the faith.
The cross of Christ is for the death of Christ.
We can't take His place and die for the sin of the word!

Never heard of others dying on the cross of Christ!

We can sacrifice our life for Him, live for Him, and die for Him. But to die in His place for the same purpose as His? No.

By faith we take up our cross and follow Him.

(The OP question is different. Myself, I don't like it. Kinda gets on my nerves. It's an odd question.)
 
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miknik5

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Do you agree with Colossians 1

who hath
delivered us from the power of darkness and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son: 14In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:
 
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The truth is that we too have been crucified with Christ on the cross. The old man that was in Adam died on the cross with Christ and the new man in Christ - the new creation was raised up with Christ. This is called taking up our cross and following Jesus just like He said we would do that believe in Him.

The more our minds are renewed to the truths of what happened to us on the cross with Jesus - the more we will walk in the newness of His life which is already in us because of His resurrection.

Galatians 2:20 (KJV)
[SUP]20 [/SUP] I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

Romans 6:5-8 (KJV)
[SUP]5 [/SUP] For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:

[SUP]6 [/SUP] Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.

[SUP]7 [/SUP] For he that is dead is freed from sin.

[SUP]8 [/SUP]
Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:

We were nailed to the cross with Christ and His faith was complete. His faith in us will bring us to a completion or fruit of this faith. He is the author and finisher of faith. We live from His faith in us and it is not incomplete and it will manifest it's true self when all is said and done. He cannot fail nor deny Himself.
 
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There's Weak faith. Little faith. Much faith. Great faith. One faith. But never heard of incomplete faith. Where KJV uses Perfect, others use Complete. Looked up complete and faith. And so, You see that his faith and his actions were working together, and his faith was made complete by what he did. James 2.22 NIV. Not much help. I'm COMPLETELY baffled.
In an incomplete faith sort of way?
 
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Please forgive me for asking you this question Why did you choose your name to be Deliverances? im not understanding why you made it plural Do you agree with John 8 that whom THE SON sets free is free And do you think that those whom THE SON set free don't know it?
I chose the name Deliverances because their are many people who need to be delivered. People are not set free by not believing everything Jesus has revealed.
 
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The truth is that we too have been crucified with Christ on the cross. The old man that was in Adam died on the cross with Christ and the new man in Christ - the new creation was raised up with Christ. This is called taking up our cross and following Jesus just like He said we would do that believe in Him. The more our minds are renewed to the truths of what happened to us on the cross with Jesus - the more we will walk in the newness of His life which is already in us because of His resurrection. Galatians 2:20 (KJV) [SUP]20 [/SUP] I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. Romans 6:5-8 (KJV) [SUP]5 [/SUP] For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection: [SUP]6 [/SUP] Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin. [SUP]7 [/SUP] For he that is dead is freed from sin. [SUP]8 [/SUP] Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him: We were nailed to the cross with Christ and His faith was complete. His faith in us will bring us to a completion or fruit of this faith. He is the author and finisher of faith. We live from His faith in us and it is not incomplete and it will manifest it's true self when all is said and done. He cannot fail nor deny Himself.
For us to be nailed to the cross with Christ, it is a requirement from God that our faith be complete.
 

blue_ladybug

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We don't need to be nailed to the cross with Jesus. He paid for our sins all by Himself. And the ONLY requirement from God regarding faith, is to simply believe and have a mustard seed amount of faith.. :) Believing in Jesus completely, is what makes our faith complete..


For us to be nailed to the cross with Christ, it is a requirement from God that our faith be complete.
 

miknik5

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Good luck.....faith is faith.....end of story......you cannot improve on something that God gives....it is already perfect.....not that it cannot be grown, because it can be increased and grown....but to say it is incomplete misses the mark....regardless of how many times you throw James into the mix........for the millionth time

BEFORE GOD we are justified by FAITH
BEFORE MEN our JUSTIFYING FAITH is SEEN IN OUR WORKS

END OF STORY!
And the "righteous" shall live by faith
what we began in is what we will end in
From faith -----------> to faith
From first -----------> to last
 

blue_ladybug

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Wrong. There are none who are righteous. God says so. Those who BELIEVE shall live by faith. :)



And the "righteous" shall live by faith
what we began in is what we will end in
From faith -----------> to faith
From first -----------> to last