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I've shared the 10 Commandments with people before and they seemed genuinely concerned about their standing before a Holy God, did they repent I don't know never seen them again. I've lead people to say the sinners pray, yes, but that's not repenting, it's just saying a prayer, like the serenity prayer.
Once shared the 10 Commandments with a guy in prison he was shaking while I was asking him how his life stacked up again the 10 Commandments. He said he didn't know but would think about it. The next week went I went back the guys were telling me he was asking lots of questions and that the guy was a stone cold killer. They asked me what I told him, so I told them. Unfortunately do to some political reason I was never able to go back to that yard.
Once shared the 10 Commandments with a guy in prison he was shaking while I was asking him how his life stacked up again the 10 Commandments. He said he didn't know but would think about it. The next week went I went back the guys were telling me he was asking lots of questions and that the guy was a stone cold killer. They asked me what I told him, so I told them. Unfortunately do to some political reason I was never able to go back to that yard.
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I have led people to Jesus in the past. One for me that is especially meaningful is my own mother an hour before she died. Every Mother's Day I ask the Lord to go put His arms around her and tell her I will be there soon after I am done here. He does it faithfully for me. He loves her more than I can ever imagine.
He's the Lord of the Sabbath and He will give you rest from the weight of the Law.
Matthew 11:27-30 "All things have been handed over to me by my Father, and no one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and anyone to whom the Son chooses to reveal him.28 Come to me, all who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn from me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls.30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.”
Notice what He say right after this Matthew12:1-2, 6-8 “At that time Jesus went through the grainfields on the Sabbath. His disciples were hungry, and they began to pluck heads of grain and to eat.2 But when the Pharisees saw it, they said to him, “Look, your disciples are doing what is not lawful to do on the Sabbath.”.............6 I tell you, something greater than the temple is here.7 And if you had known what this means, ‘I desire mercy, and not sacrifice,’ you would not have condemned the guiltless.8 For the Son of Man is lord of the Sabbath.”
Matthew 11:27-30 "All things have been handed over to me by my Father, and no one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and anyone to whom the Son chooses to reveal him.28 Come to me, all who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn from me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls.30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.”
Notice what He say right after this Matthew12:1-2, 6-8 “At that time Jesus went through the grainfields on the Sabbath. His disciples were hungry, and they began to pluck heads of grain and to eat.2 But when the Pharisees saw it, they said to him, “Look, your disciples are doing what is not lawful to do on the Sabbath.”.............6 I tell you, something greater than the temple is here.7 And if you had known what this means, ‘I desire mercy, and not sacrifice,’ you would not have condemned the guiltless.8 For the Son of Man is lord of the Sabbath.”
Who were the 10 commandments given to?
Not prisoners in jail.
You have gone into prison and preached the 10 commandments to people who have broken at least one of those (and I add we as believers in Jesus have broken them as well)
I am not sure your approach is correct.
You say you have led people to say the sinners prayer but that's not repenting, it's just saying a sinners prayer.
why lead them to say the sinners prayer if you think it does not lead to repenting?
What is the sinners prayer?
What is repenting/repentance to you?
Yes I have, well I say I have but I haven't.
It is the Holy Spirit who leads someone to Christ.
I am just a vessel as such.
Jesus said that he must go away so that the Holy Spirit must come to convict the world of its sin.
That sin is unbelief in him.
I think we should not be obsessed with leading people to Christ, convincing them that he is the Son of God who died and rose again. That's the Holy Spirit's job.
We just need to love people like Jesus does and allow the Holy Spirit to work in us so that when someone says how do I come to faith
we say
Romans 10:9-13
if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. For the Scripture says, “Whoever believes on Him will not be put to shame.” For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek, for the same Lord over all is rich to all who call upon Him. For “whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved.”
It is the Holy Spirit who leads someone to Christ.
I am just a vessel as such.
Jesus said that he must go away so that the Holy Spirit must come to convict the world of its sin.
That sin is unbelief in him.
I think we should not be obsessed with leading people to Christ, convincing them that he is the Son of God who died and rose again. That's the Holy Spirit's job.
We just need to love people like Jesus does and allow the Holy Spirit to work in us so that when someone says how do I come to faith
we say
Romans 10:9-13
if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. For the Scripture says, “Whoever believes on Him will not be put to shame.” For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek, for the same Lord over all is rich to all who call upon Him. For “whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved.”
Amen...well said!
Unless the Lord build the house they labor in vain that build it. Psalm 127:1
There is a time to speak and a time to refrain from speaking.
We need the direction of the Holy Spirit to walk in that truth so that the life of Christ will be manifested in and through us to a hurt and dying world that desperately needs to know of our Father's love and grace towards them.
i am welling up that comment.
A hurt and dying world that needs to know our Fathers love and grace towards them.
Hurting and dying people. Let's all focus on hurting and dying people then they will see Jesus.
I do pray that when I come alongside people that God reveals to me the hurt and pain they have.
Wonderful and truthful comment.
Thank you
A hurt and dying world that needs to know our Fathers love and grace towards them.
Hurting and dying people. Let's all focus on hurting and dying people then they will see Jesus.
I do pray that when I come alongside people that God reveals to me the hurt and pain they have.
Wonderful and truthful comment.
Thank you
Are you looking to the law or to the Lord Jesus Christ? If you turn from Christ and try to follow the law by your own understanding and strength you aren't following the Lord Jesus Christ anymore, right?
Galatians 3:11-12, 24-26
[FONT="]11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.[/FONT]
[FONT="]12 And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.[/FONT]
[FONT="]24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.[/FONT]
[FONT="]25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.[/FONT]
[FONT="]26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.[/FONT]
Galatians 3:11-12, 24-26
[FONT="]11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.[/FONT]
[FONT="]12 And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.[/FONT]
[FONT="]24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.[/FONT]
[FONT="]25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.[/FONT]
[FONT="]26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.[/FONT]
Romans 2:17-20, 28-29, 3:9, 19-20 "But if you call yourself a Jew and rely on the law and boast in God18 and know his will and approve what is excellent, because you are instructed from the law;19 and if you are sure that you yourself are a guide to the blind, a light to those who are in darkness,20 an instructor of the foolish, a teacher of children, having in the law the embodiment of knowledge and truth.......28 For no one is a Jew who is merely one outwardly, nor is circumcision outward and physical.29 But a Jew is one inwardly, and circumcision is a matter of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the letter. His praise is not from man but from God......9 What then? Are we Jews any better off? No, not at all. For we have already charged that all, both Jews and Greeks, are under sin,.....19 Now we know that whatever the law says it speaks to those who are under the law, so that every mouth may be stopped, and the whole world may be held accountable to God.20 For by works of the law no human being will be justified in his sight, since through the law comes knowledge of sin."
If you do not know what sin is, how does one come to the wisdom of fearing the Lord, so that they can repent, if the Spirit circumcises their heart? Because, in the Law the embodiment of knowledge and truth, through the Law comes knowledge of sin. Jesus' first sermon was on the 10 Commandments, Matthew 5:17-48. Christ saves from sin, so using God's Law brings knowledge of sin, so they can see the need for Christ. Where did the Apostles go to preach, the synagogues where people knew the Law and were under the curse of it, sin. Once the weight of the Law has brought one to the reality of sin and that they will stand before a Holy God, that is going to judge them by this standard. If the Spirit awakens them they will repent, if not they are condemned already, John 3:18-20.
I Timothy 2:4, 4:3 "who desires all people to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth........who forbid marriage and require abstinence from foods that God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth."
II Timothy 2:25, 3:7 "God may perhaps grant them repentance leading to a knowledge of the truth.....always learning and never able to arrive at a knowledge of the truth."
Titus 1:1 "Paul, a servant of God and an apostle of Jesus Christ, for the sake of the faith of God's elect and their knowledge of the truth, which accords with godliness,"
I lead them in that prayer because I did not know any better, I thought like many do, that confession and repentance are the same, when they are not. The word for "confess" in I John 1:9 in the RCC way, that it was a proclamation of ones sins, it's not, it's an agreement with God that we have sin and that portion of Scripture is to the Church, not the world. God grants repentance, which is a turning from sin and going the opposite direction, from sin to God. The evidence of repentance is I John 3:9-10, 14 "No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God's seed abides in him; and he cannot keep on sinning, because he has been born of God.10 By this it is evident who are the children of God, and who are the children of the devil: whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor is the one who does not love his brother......14 We know that we have passed out of death into life, because we love the brothers. Whoever does not love abides in death."
We need to lay the foundation of Christ, by bring people to the knowledge of sin, if the Spirit circumcises their heart, God has granted them repentance. Sinners prayer is a man made idea on how to repent, the 10 Commandments are God's way of bringing one to the knowledge of sin, to see a need for a Savior. Telling someone Jesus dies for you or Jesus loves you, does not lead a person to repentance. Now once a person understands the weight of their sin and see the need for a Savior. Now, but Jesus loves you and died for you, He will cleanse of all your sin if you would repent, the Spirit will lead the heart in repentance. The last three words of John 3:21 in the Holman Bible, accomplished by God, is why they come to Jesus.
I hope I answered your questions, if not I'll try to give a better explanation, but I'm not sure I can.
If you do not know what sin is, how does one come to the wisdom of fearing the Lord, so that they can repent, if the Spirit circumcises their heart? Because, in the Law the embodiment of knowledge and truth, through the Law comes knowledge of sin. Jesus' first sermon was on the 10 Commandments, Matthew 5:17-48. Christ saves from sin, so using God's Law brings knowledge of sin, so they can see the need for Christ. Where did the Apostles go to preach, the synagogues where people knew the Law and were under the curse of it, sin. Once the weight of the Law has brought one to the reality of sin and that they will stand before a Holy God, that is going to judge them by this standard. If the Spirit awakens them they will repent, if not they are condemned already, John 3:18-20.
I Timothy 2:4, 4:3 "who desires all people to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth........who forbid marriage and require abstinence from foods that God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth."
II Timothy 2:25, 3:7 "God may perhaps grant them repentance leading to a knowledge of the truth.....always learning and never able to arrive at a knowledge of the truth."
Titus 1:1 "Paul, a servant of God and an apostle of Jesus Christ, for the sake of the faith of God's elect and their knowledge of the truth, which accords with godliness,"
I lead them in that prayer because I did not know any better, I thought like many do, that confession and repentance are the same, when they are not. The word for "confess" in I John 1:9 in the RCC way, that it was a proclamation of ones sins, it's not, it's an agreement with God that we have sin and that portion of Scripture is to the Church, not the world. God grants repentance, which is a turning from sin and going the opposite direction, from sin to God. The evidence of repentance is I John 3:9-10, 14 "No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God's seed abides in him; and he cannot keep on sinning, because he has been born of God.10 By this it is evident who are the children of God, and who are the children of the devil: whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor is the one who does not love his brother......14 We know that we have passed out of death into life, because we love the brothers. Whoever does not love abides in death."
We need to lay the foundation of Christ, by bring people to the knowledge of sin, if the Spirit circumcises their heart, God has granted them repentance. Sinners prayer is a man made idea on how to repent, the 10 Commandments are God's way of bringing one to the knowledge of sin, to see a need for a Savior. Telling someone Jesus dies for you or Jesus loves you, does not lead a person to repentance. Now once a person understands the weight of their sin and see the need for a Savior. Now, but Jesus loves you and died for you, He will cleanse of all your sin if you would repent, the Spirit will lead the heart in repentance. The last three words of John 3:21 in the Holman Bible, accomplished by God, is why they come to Jesus.
I hope I answered your questions, if not I'll try to give a better explanation, but I'm not sure I can.