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It ISN'T different! How we the humans percieve sin is very different from how God does! We put varying severity on it (ie: Murder is worse than stealing). God does not, you will be punished the same way for different crimes.
I won't apologize for facts. If you can't believe in Christ without being lied to, then your entire relationship is based on a lie and there is no trust.
I won't apologize for facts. If you can't believe in Christ without being lied to, then your entire relationship is based on a lie and there is no trust.
J
so a person that tells the story of little red riding hood is no different than a person that rapes and kills 500 little kids? umm ok. not sure i agree. i was blessed by the Most High with common sense.
are you sure?
Proverbs 6:16-19
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There are six things that the Lord hates,
seven that are an abomination to him:
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haughty eyes, a lying tongue,
and hands that shed innocent blood,
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a heart that devises wicked plans,
feet that make haste to run to evil,
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a false witness who breathes out lies,
and one who sows discord among brothers.
these sins here seem to be much worse than others. when understanding the damage and destruction they cause in the world, as opposed to the mom and dad that read fairy tail stories to their children in bed, it makes sense.
Yeshua teaches blasphemy against the spirit is unforgivable while other sins are forgiven no problem.
i dont know of any child rapist or serial killers that confessed the root of all their problems was their parents told them stories of santa clause and cinderella.
are you sure?
Proverbs 6:16-19
16
There are six things that the Lord hates,
seven that are an abomination to him:
17
haughty eyes, a lying tongue,
and hands that shed innocent blood,
18
a heart that devises wicked plans,
feet that make haste to run to evil,
19
a false witness who breathes out lies,
and one who sows discord among brothers.
these sins here seem to be much worse than others. when understanding the damage and destruction they cause in the world, as opposed to the mom and dad that read fairy tail stories to their children in bed, it makes sense.
Yeshua teaches blasphemy against the spirit is unforgivable while other sins are forgiven no problem.
i dont know of any child rapist or serial killers that confessed the root of all their problems was their parents told them stories of santa clause and cinderella.
I didn't answer the poll question...also haven't read the other posts, which happens from time to time.
I can't say tellin' yer kids that santa claus, easter bunny, tooth fairy, trick er treating, or, "frolicking around a may-pole", (which is coming up very shortly here) is a lie, cuz quite Frankly Virginia?
There are some people that do take these matters quite literally! And these (forces) people are not OF God! Methinks most parents, want the best for their children, and, would do anything to keep their child from harm. Up to and including the mocking and scoffing of their child for not participating in these, uh (ahem) social events? Or? traditions of men, makes void, the Word of God!
IMHO, allowing your children to participate, and or believe, in these things, is creating "crisis situations" within the child, that, in some/most cases, carry onwards to adulthood. From a strict Godly point of view, it would be better to leave the church, and keep on practicing these paganistic/heathenistic rituals, then to tell a child, at some future date, that these things are merely "silly kid" practices. Especially (and seeings this is a christian forum) when one wants to, or, is attending church services. Reckon, I don't needs to mention the effect on a child, who's sole authority and role model tells them that things they were told are real, and things which they can physically see, has on 'em, when it comes to matters of things which cannot be seen? And how this can, and does compromise the faith that is ours IN Christ? And, how this can, and does creep in unawares? Giving MUCH credence to the Book of Jude? And, this is....well?....a good part of that which keeps apostasy, or a "falling away" perpetuating itself?
It is a good thing, we have such a loving, kind, and merciful Father in Heaven, that just the mere mention of His NAME, is enough, that "the world" wants Christianity eradicated! You only have to refer to the O.T. to see that God extends this only so far, however!
M
Children often live and play in a world of make believe with princesses, fairies,
superman etc. It's all about growing up and using their imagination to play and
express themselves.
I don't know of many who promote the idea of the easter bunny in this neck of the
woods. But going back to Santa Clause, as long as it is treated as good clean fun and
not taken too seriously - I see nothing wrong.
Most kids come to realise and understand Santa is just a bit of pretend fun, all on their
own. As far as I know, no one has been physiologically damage as a result of a bit of make
believe in Santa. No one gets traumatised for life etc.
Lets face it, they are more likely to be influenced and corrupted by the make believe world of
TV than santa clause. Most TV, movies and theatre are just a grown up version of make believe.
For people who want to ban Santa and the Easter Bunny, they may want to look at their
own viewing habbits on TV and stick to factual programmes in future.
I for one rather enjoy a bit of make believe sci -fi and I like talking about santa.
superman etc. It's all about growing up and using their imagination to play and
express themselves.
I don't know of many who promote the idea of the easter bunny in this neck of the
woods. But going back to Santa Clause, as long as it is treated as good clean fun and
not taken too seriously - I see nothing wrong.
Most kids come to realise and understand Santa is just a bit of pretend fun, all on their
own. As far as I know, no one has been physiologically damage as a result of a bit of make
believe in Santa. No one gets traumatised for life etc.
Lets face it, they are more likely to be influenced and corrupted by the make believe world of
TV than santa clause. Most TV, movies and theatre are just a grown up version of make believe.
For people who want to ban Santa and the Easter Bunny, they may want to look at their
own viewing habbits on TV and stick to factual programmes in future.
I for one rather enjoy a bit of make believe sci -fi
and I like talking about santa.
M
For parents who don't know what to tell their kids, tell them about
St Nicholas and how the make believe stories of Santa came about.
Tell them it's a fun time of the year and it's ok to pretend about Santa,
that it's traditional.
But make sure they know the diffeener between make believe and reality.
Most kids work this out for themselves anyway.
St Nicholas and how the make believe stories of Santa came about.
Tell them it's a fun time of the year and it's ok to pretend about Santa,
that it's traditional.
But make sure they know the diffeener between make believe and reality.
Most kids work this out for themselves anyway.
I only gave you one example. The lies were constant, and they were not like a joke, they were intended as cruel. She also put bugs in my food. Let me give you another example of her lies. She gave me this hideous shirt of hers even though I kept saying no thank you. She insisted, and I said it's not my style and honestly I'll never wear it. She insisted for a long time even though I insisted I don't want it. But finally I said fine I'll take it. I thought I'll just hide it in the back of my drawer and never wear it. Then she leaves the room and goes to tell my step dad that I just stole her shirt.
At 14 a man tried to rape and kill me. She looked into my blood red eyes and beat up face and said, "Shame on you! You know you wanted it, and now you're going to embarrass this poor man in court?
Her intentions were always evil toward me, so don't say her lies were some kind of fun joke- she meant them to be mean, she was mean. She would leave for weeks at a time and I had to eat plants outside, dog food, or steal food from the store. I was dressed in free clothing room clothes while she bought the most expensive brands for herself. She even told me she would purposely give me bad haircuts so that I wouldn't be prettier than her.
You dont know her evil ways, but I do, and I know her lies were no joke, but intended mental and emotional abuse.
And I don't care what you or anyone says, lying to your children is evil.
At 14 a man tried to rape and kill me. She looked into my blood red eyes and beat up face and said, "Shame on you! You know you wanted it, and now you're going to embarrass this poor man in court?
Her intentions were always evil toward me, so don't say her lies were some kind of fun joke- she meant them to be mean, she was mean. She would leave for weeks at a time and I had to eat plants outside, dog food, or steal food from the store. I was dressed in free clothing room clothes while she bought the most expensive brands for herself. She even told me she would purposely give me bad haircuts so that I wouldn't be prettier than her.
You dont know her evil ways, but I do, and I know her lies were no joke, but intended mental and emotional abuse.
And I don't care what you or anyone says, lying to your children is evil.
J
what your talking about and what i am talking about are two very different things. jokes and silly made up stories i have no problem with. telling your kids mean things just to scare them and be cruel is very wrong. i thought you were talking about made up stories many good parents tell their kids just for fun and laughs. my apologies to you if u were offended. no kid deserves to be abused like that.
I understand, but I'm trying to show you that no matter the contrast of severity, lying to anyone is evil. I'm no hippocrite, I admit I've lied. But never, never, never had I thought or said that lying is a good thing. It is a sin- that is not my opinion- that is God defining what sin is. God will not be pleased with those who lie to children.
You may not take it seriously, but God does. There are plenty of verses about lying, and God says we will be judged for every idle word we speak. I'm not your Judge, this is between Him and you. But He warned you through His Word and through me His servant that lying is evil and will be Judged.
You may not take it seriously, but God does. There are plenty of verses about lying, and God says we will be judged for every idle word we speak. I'm not your Judge, this is between Him and you. But He warned you through His Word and through me His servant that lying is evil and will be Judged.
J
we are judged according to our actions. the actions of a loving parent that makes up a story for their child is not equal to corrupt leader that lies to a mass number of people to serve his own will. the pharisees viewed the world in this same rigid black and white manner of thinking. very cold, callous and a complete lack of love.
D
I've explored caves with Tom Sawyer.
I've gone down the Mississippi with Huck and Jim.
I've sprinkled fairy dust all around Never Never Land, (and nothing happened, which was annoying!)
I've played in a Secret Garden.
I've Hi-Ho Silvered with the Lone Ranger.
I've shot Jerrys.
I've helped build Fort Apache!
I've lived in an igloo.
I've panned for Gold.
I stopped trusting Long John Silver.
I hid in the bushes while some boys chased Chubby and that stupid pig head.
I've eaten Easter Bunny turds. (My brothers tried to convince me the small chocolate Easter eggs were Easter Bunny turds.)
AND, I trusted Dad that Santa stops giving me toys on Christmas Day when I stop believing in Santa.
Santa was Dad. Now he is my husband. So, I still believe in Santa. (I married him. lol)
Who is lying? I enjoyed my childhood. No regrets where my imagination took me. Reality came, but I still choose imagination sometimes.
Just last week I rode on hot air brought to us (for I was with a boy in a story) by a creature who cannot live on earth, and yet he did. Last year, I was stuck in a cage in a roadside attraction with a gorilla named Ivan. (Ivan flings poop to mark his territory, so it's a bit brave to spend time with him. lol) I've ridden a horse in North Philly. I've found the East Pole with Winnie a mere decade ago. I live in a Little House in the Big Woods and on the Prairie. I've lived in a canyon with a cro magnon woman.
I thank my parents for my imagination and for letting me catch onto reality at my own speed. I know the difference. That's an important thing every child should learn.
I've gone down the Mississippi with Huck and Jim.
I've sprinkled fairy dust all around Never Never Land, (and nothing happened, which was annoying!
)I've played in a Secret Garden.
I've Hi-Ho Silvered with the Lone Ranger.
I've shot Jerrys.
I've helped build Fort Apache!
I've lived in an igloo.
I've panned for Gold.
I stopped trusting Long John Silver.
I hid in the bushes while some boys chased Chubby and that stupid pig head.
I've eaten Easter Bunny turds. (My brothers tried to convince me the small chocolate Easter eggs were Easter Bunny turds.)
AND, I trusted Dad that Santa stops giving me toys on Christmas Day when I stop believing in Santa.
Santa was Dad. Now he is my husband. So, I still believe in Santa. (I married him. lol)
Who is lying? I enjoyed my childhood. No regrets where my imagination took me. Reality came, but I still choose imagination sometimes.
Just last week I rode on hot air brought to us (for I was with a boy in a story) by a creature who cannot live on earth, and yet he did. Last year, I was stuck in a cage in a roadside attraction with a gorilla named Ivan. (Ivan flings poop to mark his territory, so it's a bit brave to spend time with him. lol) I've ridden a horse in North Philly. I've found the East Pole with Winnie a mere decade ago. I live in a Little House in the Big Woods and on the Prairie. I've lived in a canyon with a cro magnon woman.
I thank my parents for my imagination and for letting me catch onto reality at my own speed. I know the difference. That's an important thing every child should learn.
D
Really? Want to know my favorite things that Santa gave me?
A dollhouse. It was Mom's when she grew up.
A chinahead doll. Gram's when she was growing up.
Four tea sets -- my great grandmother's, my grandmother's, Mom's, and mine. Looking back, I see mine came from Mom. It cost her half of HER allowance one week, and her allowance was for stuff that Dad didn't buy enough of to last a week. (Usually milk. Sometimes bread.)
Christmas and Easter aren't just for rich people.
A dollhouse. It was Mom's when she grew up.
A chinahead doll. Gram's when she was growing up.
Four tea sets -- my great grandmother's, my grandmother's, Mom's, and mine. Looking back, I see mine came from Mom. It cost her half of HER allowance one week, and her allowance was for stuff that Dad didn't buy enough of to last a week. (Usually milk. Sometimes bread.)
Christmas and Easter aren't just for rich people.
D
Spaghetti noodles are snakes is proof your mother was abusive?
Sorry, but I can't help but think she'd get along well in my family. lol
I come from "Small chocolate Easter eggs are Easter Bunny turds."
"Licorice is made by sweeping up after a day at the candy factory."
"Watch out! There's a rattler behind you." (There were no rattlesnakes where I lived, thus me jumping was the funny part. lol)
"Rice is maggots."
And I learned to keep eating when my brothers sang "Great big globs of greasy grim and gopher guts..."
My father's favorite joke was about a father convincing his kid to jump out of a tree into the father's arms, but when the son jumped, the father moved away and said, "Never trust anyone. Not even your papa."
That was the ways of my family. Don't let anyone fool you. Think for yourself! It worked wonders... plus! I have a sense of humor now. lol
Sorry, but I can't help but think she'd get along well in my family. lol
I come from "Small chocolate Easter eggs are Easter Bunny turds."
"Licorice is made by sweeping up after a day at the candy factory."
"Watch out! There's a rattler behind you." (There were no rattlesnakes where I lived, thus me jumping was the funny part. lol)
"Rice is maggots."
And I learned to keep eating when my brothers sang "Great big globs of greasy grim and gopher guts..."
My father's favorite joke was about a father convincing his kid to jump out of a tree into the father's arms, but when the son jumped, the father moved away and said, "Never trust anyone. Not even your papa."
That was the ways of my family. Don't let anyone fool you. Think for yourself! It worked wonders... plus! I have a sense of humor now. lol
Yea because raising a child in truth is the worst thing you can do right? Bottom line is that it's the parent decision, I've even come to learn that it can even vary from child to child in the same family. I told both my boys at a young age that Santa and all that stuff was not real, and just because "everyone does it" and "I was raised that way" does not make it right or not. Now just because everyone does it we should? I thought there was a little something about "separating" from the world. No?
I honestly think it's the parents choice and that decision is between them and Jesus, so I'm not going to point my finger and tell others they should be like me, but I'm also not going to be made to feel guilty and sucked into it by being told a kid can't be a kid without this deception. My kids are still very much kids, they don't have to do everything just like I did either.
I honestly think it's the parents choice and that decision is between them and Jesus, so I'm not going to point my finger and tell others they should be like me, but I'm also not going to be made to feel guilty and sucked into it by being told a kid can't be a kid without this deception. My kids are still very much kids, they don't have to do everything just like I did either.
Wow....quite the thread of inclusions. For me it is simple; my three boy's, who are now grown, had a childhood where we celebrated Christmas and Easter with some of the fun practices, but I simply told them the truth up front always, and I let them work out the difference between the world's system compared to our beliefs. I would even say, "Well, this egg hunt was fun, but it pails in comparison to a finished plan of God that saves mankind - right?" So, I used it to show the emptiness in it, - in comparison. We still enjoyed the trivial experiences in part, but limited. I was open to let them be men of integrity to figure these things out so I said if you want to enjoy a ceremony of these cultures feel free. We rang a bell at 6am on Christmas morning and i knocked shoes on the walls as if it was the Reindeer coming and I had a Ho Ho moment, all the while they knew it wasn't true but they still loved those moments.
....but when they went down stairs and got their stockings and came back up to Mom and Dads bed to open them we focused the rest of the experience on the truth of Jesus Christ's Resurrection. They always knew and appreciated us for both telling them the truth of Jesus and allowing them to just experience some of the other aspects of the celebration. I feel clear in my Spirit for doing that as well.
For me its about going alongside my kids and thru discussion and discovery letting them see our Christian household unfold the truth in person as I parent them. The word of God was always in my heart to share His Truths over the worlds mis-led ventures.
....but when they went down stairs and got their stockings and came back up to Mom and Dads bed to open them we focused the rest of the experience on the truth of Jesus Christ's Resurrection. They always knew and appreciated us for both telling them the truth of Jesus and allowing them to just experience some of the other aspects of the celebration. I feel clear in my Spirit for doing that as well.
For me its about going alongside my kids and thru discussion and discovery letting them see our Christian household unfold the truth in person as I parent them. The word of God was always in my heart to share His Truths over the worlds mis-led ventures.
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