Others on the Ark not just Noah and his family

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p_rehbein

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My Brain Hurts. Its hard enough to imagine how all those animals managed to squeeze in without having to add some stowaways on board as well
What's funny is..............Noah and his family were the FIRST boat people!
 
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sevenseas

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I think there was some cross breeding there, because that dog's a horse ;)

seems like it, eh?

but no, he's all Dane

I had a Dane cross years ago and what a wonderful dog! He was the kindest to other animals but yet he could also be protective.

found him and I think he was a gift from God :) He lived to be over 16 years which is remarkable for a dog with that dna
 

NayborBear

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Ya know what gets me buddyt? There are many Christians that sincerely believe, that this earth is but 6,000 years old! THAT, to me is utter-nonsense! Ya know something else that "gets" me? Is that many of these same people, believe that satan is real, yet, pay NO mind, to the 1/3rd of the "stars" that the "dragon" swept with its tail? Know why this is? Because they don't believe that has happened yet! If they don't understand there was a previous earth/heaven age, and the events of the overthrow have already taken place? It should be of little wonder then, why!
After all, one can only "connect dots", that one can see!
 
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The First Flood occurred because of Satan's rebellion. But that's another story. Why is it that most people reject the fact that there were others on the Ark other than Noah and his Family. I have no idea. Man was first placed in these flesh body's on the 6[SUP]th[/SUP] day. The races as we know them today were created at that time. With the creation of Adam and Eve they were of One Race. I think all would agree with that. You don't get Black, White, Indian, Asian, and any other group of Races from just two people. Noah was told to gather two of every flesh. Man is flesh.
In John 8:44 Jesus speaks to the descendants of of Cain-- Ye are of your father the devil and the lust of your father ye will do. HE WAS A MURDERER FROM THE BEGINNING and abode not in the truth because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie he speaketh of his own for he is a liar and the father of it. I ask how did the descendants of Cain get there. Easy they were on the Ark.
I reject it for the same reason I reject liver taste just like chocolate.

I reject nonsense.
 
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The First Flood occurred because of Satan's rebellion. But that's another story. Why is it that most people reject the fact that there were others on the Ark other than Noah and his Family. I have no idea. Man was first placed in these flesh body's on the 6[SUP]th[/SUP] day. The races as we know them today were created at that time. With the creation of Adam and Eve they were of One Race. I think all would agree with that. You don't get Black, White, Indian, Asian, and any other group of Races from just two people. Noah was told to gather two of every flesh. Man is flesh.
In John 8:44 Jesus speaks to the descendants of of Cain-- Ye are of your father the devil and the lust of your father ye will do. HE WAS A MURDERER FROM THE BEGINNING and abode not in the truth because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie he speaketh of his own for he is a liar and the father of it. I ask how did the descendants of Cain get there. Easy they were on the Ark.

The way as to the mark of Cain remains(restesless wanderer) not having his sins attoned for

.Eve as the mother of all nations (human flesh) had multiple children with different pigments of flesh, as genes. Every human has the possibility that God would choose which gene to produce melanin in all its varieties.

The generation of Cain, the generation of Adam continued after the ark landed .The tradition showing men are born spiritually separated from God continued on with Ham the father of the city Canaan, its founder Cain .Ham is show violating the word of God as the way of Cain. His brothers the generation of Christ according to the incoruptible seed by which all men are born again

Shem and Jabeth walking by faith covered ther fathers nakedness to further the way of Abel, saved by grace\favor.

A Caucasian mother and a black father can produce either depenting on how God works to make iit possible .Therfore possibly have two tones of children. (one darker than the other)

These are the three sons of Noah: and of them was the whole earth overspread. And Noah began to be an husbandman, and he planted a vineyard: And he drank of the wine, and was drunken; and he was uncovered within his tent.
And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brethren without.
And Shem and Japheth took a garment, and laid it upon both their shoulders, and went backward, and covered the nakedness of their father; and their faces were backward, and they saw not their father's nakedness Gen 9:19
 
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No one here has explained how the descendant's of Cain survived the flood. Can you not put aside the teachings of man and believe the word of God. He expects us to be able to use common sense. And the rightly divide his word.
I can explain how Cain's descendants survived the flood --
a. We got Noah's bloodline from one side of the family, but not the other. We got no bloodline for Mrs. Noah or any of the other wives of the sons.
b. It's not literal. It's the rebellious nature of Man.
c. God didn't explain it in his book about God, so we won't know, and it wasn't important enough for him to let us know. The Bible is the book about God, not the book about Man.
d. Some of the above.
e. All of the above.

And, yes, I can put aside the teachings of man just fine. I've done so with yours. If God expects us to use our common sense, like you say, then why haven't you? As for rightly dividing? Please, go for it. And start today, because so far you don't have it. You're doing quite well with wrongly-dividing though.
 
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Some didn't take up much space... :)

Big animal! :eek:

Here is the majority.
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By Bugboy52.40 - Derivative from images uploaded by Fir0002., CC BY-SA 3.0, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=8101165

Someone taught me how it was possible. Half the animals in the world live in water, so they didn't have to travel. What we're left with is @ 35,000 species of animals.

Out of what's left, (from the brontosaurus to the flea), the average size of an animal is approximately the size of a sheep.

Sheep travel by railroad boxcars for up to a week, and the boxcars are set up to house the animals in layers and cages in such a way that each car can hold a relatively large flock. (Can't remember the exact number, but vague memory says between 100-500 per car.)

The ark was approximately the size of a battleship, but was set up closer to a barge, for obvious reasons. (No guns needed. lol)

In the space of a battleship, hundreds of boxcars can be stored. About half the ark was needed to store animals. It wasn't shaped traditionally because there were things like giraffes, brontosaurus, and good ole T. Rex, so negotiating size was a factor, but they also had to have enough food for herbivores to survive and reproduce for the sake of the carnivores and omnivores, but it does logically make sense.
 
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Ya know what gets me buddyt? There are many Christians that sincerely believe, that this earth is but 6,000 years old! THAT, to me is utter-nonsense! Ya know something else that "gets" me? Is that many of these same people, believe that satan is real, yet, pay NO mind, to the 1/3rd of the "stars" that the "dragon" swept with its tail? Know why this is? Because they don't believe that has happened yet! If they don't understand there was a previous earth/heaven age, and the events of the overthrow have already taken place? It should be of little wonder then, why!
After all, one can only "connect dots", that one can see!
You know what "gets" me? How often people will jump off of reality to create an image they can agree with, and then think everyone else is living fiction.

You don't understand "previous" anything, because you added dots!
 

Angela_grace

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Its not only possible, its very common in evolution. Look at dogs, all different races from one ancestor.
Yes, very common in microevolution. Macroevolution what most just call evolution did not and does not exist.
 

JaumeJ

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By the title only it seems someone is rewriting the Word, correcting God.
 
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No one here has explained how the descendant's of Cain survived the flood. Can you not put aside the teachings of man and believe the word of God. He expects us to be able to use common sense. And the rightly divide his word.
Hmm makes me wonder.

Genesis 4:22

[SUP]22 [/SUP]And Zillah, she also bare Tubalcain, an instructer of every artificer in brass and iron: and the sister of Tubalcain was Naamah.
 
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The way as to the mark of Cain remains(restesless wanderer) not having his sins attoned for

.Eve as the mother of all nations (human flesh) had multiple children with different pigments of flesh, as genes. Every human has the possibility that God would choose which gene to produce melanin in all its varieties.

The generation of Cain, the generation of Adam continued after the ark landed .The tradition showing men are born spiritually separated from God continued on with Ham the father of the city Canaan, its founder Cain .Ham is show violating the word of God as the way of Cain. His brothers the generation of Christ according to the incoruptible seed by which all men are born again

Shem and Jabeth walking by faith covered ther fathers nakedness to further the way of Abel, saved by grace\favor.

A Caucasian mother and a black father can produce either depenting on how God works to make iit possible .Therfore possibly have two tones of children. (one darker than the other)

These are the three sons of Noah: and of them was the whole earth overspread. And Noah began to be an husbandman, and he planted a vineyard: And he drank of the wine, and was drunken; and he was uncovered within his tent.
And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brethren without.
And Shem and Japheth took a garment, and laid it upon both their shoulders, and went backward, and covered the nakedness of their father; and their faces were backward, and they saw not their father's nakedness Gen 9:19
I can trace my mother's lineage (on her father's side) to the Duke of Buckingham. (Killed by Henry VIII.) On the other side, I can trace her lineage (on her mother's side) back to a friend of Joseph Smith before Joe went west to start Mormonism. Her lineage is consistently Caucasian.

And yet, when she was a child, she was not allowed in movie theaters in the South during the summer because "No Coloreds."

It doesn't take much to change pigmentation. It doesn't take much to have the features connected to it too.
 

NayborBear

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You know what "gets" me? How often people will jump off of reality to create an image they can agree with, and then think everyone else is living fiction.

You don't understand "previous" anything, because you added dots!
Not "fiction", rather?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZW8TlrYhBxk&list=RDZW8TlrYhBxk


I didn't "add" anything!
 

wolfwint

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The First Flood occurred because of Satan's rebellion. But that's another story. Why is it that most people reject the fact that there were others on the Ark other than Noah and his Family. I have no idea. Man was first placed in these flesh body's on the 6[SUP]th[/SUP] day. The races as we know them today were created at that time. With the creation of Adam and Eve they were of One Race. I think all would agree with that. You don't get Black, White, Indian, Asian, and any other group of Races from just two people. Noah was told to gather two of every flesh. Man is flesh.
In John 8:44 Jesus speaks to the descendants of of Cain-- Ye are of your father the devil and the lust of your father ye will do. HE WAS A MURDERER FROM THE BEGINNING and abode not in the truth because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie he speaketh of his own for he is a liar and the father of it. I ask how did the descendants of Cain get there. Easy they were on the Ark.
Is that what the bible reportet in Genesis True?
So what Problem with Adam and Eva as first createt human beings. What Problem with 8 people after the flood? Maby our IQ is the problem and our less trust in Gods word? Jesus and Peter believed it.
 
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Has anyone here not read John 8:44 In the verse Jesus tells them they are of there Father the Devil. He was a murderer from the beginning. Who I ask was the first murderer it was Cain. Its strange I get all these answers to the races and such. But nothing to explain the fact that Jesus spoke to the descendants of Cain.

Desertsrose
While I don't agree with your explanation I do respect you for it. I appreciate the views of others it's how we learn. To have a closed mind and no discussion we get nowhere. Such as post # 2 of this thread.
 
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I don't know why anyone would have a problem with what was stated in the OP. He just has a differing opinion, that's all. :)
 

MadebyHim

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And Noah went in, and his sons, and his wife, and his sons' wives with him, into the ark, because of the waters of the flood. Genesis 7:7

Noah's sons did have wives.
 

MadebyHim

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The First Flood occurred because of Satan's rebellion. But that's another story. Why is it that most people reject the fact that there were others on the Ark other than Noah and his Family. I have no idea. Man was first placed in these flesh body's on the 6[SUP]th[/SUP] day. The races as we know them today were created at that time. With the creation of Adam and Eve they were of One Race. I think all would agree with that. You don't get Black, White, Indian, Asian, and any other group of Races from just two people. Noah was told to gather two of every flesh. Man is flesh.
In John 8:44 Jesus speaks to the descendants of of Cain-- Ye are of your father the devil and the lust of your father ye will do. HE WAS A MURDERER FROM THE BEGINNING and abode not in the truth because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie he speaketh of his own for he is a liar and the father of it. I ask how did the descendants of Cain get there. Easy they were on the Ark.

1 And the whole earth was of one language, and of one speech.

[SUP]2 [/SUP]And it came to pass, as they journeyed from the east, that they found a plain in the land of Shinar; and they dwelt there.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]And they said one to another, Go to, let us make brick, and burn them thoroughly. And they had brick for stone, and slime had they for morter.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]And they said, Go to, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]And the Lord came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of men builded.
[SUP]6 [/SUP]And the Lord said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]So the Lord scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth: and they left off to build the city.


[SUP]8 [/SUP]So the Lord scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth: and they left off to build the city.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]Therefore is the name of it called Babel; because the Lord did there confound the language of all the earth: and from thence did the Lord scatter them abroad upon the face of all the earth. Genesis11:1-9
 
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Madebyhim

And I agree the sons did have wives. And they could have came from that 6th day creation of man.